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Whitley Strieber

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We've had email interactions with Whitley in the past, he's been invited on the show multiple times, and he keeps dropping the ball. I don't think he's ready to face an actual, real discussion, he's into the lightweight "interviewers". Too bad.

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Well hopefully he'll be on someday.I imagine someone with the balls to admit they were assraped would have the balls to answer some hard hitting questions.
 
It is very difficult for me to believe anything out of Strieber these days. Something funny is going on. Either he is delusional, or he is just cashing in on selling fiction as fact to a gullible audience. That's what I think.
 
Fcseven said:
BTW I did not hear the whole interview,for some reason Fabregas charges for hour two of his podcast.A jerkoff move but I guess some people are stupid enough to pay for a podcast.
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Yeah I made a thread about this a couple months ago. I went through a brief period of thinking Veritas was a good show, and was stunned when he adopted a payment model for a sub-par podcast in a saturated market.

As for the Whitley interview, well I dont expect anything of any value to come out of a Mel Fabregas interview these days. I really dont think a guy who boasts gleefully on his show of "being chosen by Bassett to be a key part of the disclosure movement" will ask any actual tough or probing questions.

He just had Alfred Webre as a guest. That little fact alone speaks for itself.
 
Through his Dreamland "advertainment" podcast, Strieber's now selling, and I quote, "beautiful pewter pendants of the Communion face. Folks, this is a once-in-a-lifetime chance to..." (continues ad nauseum).
If you listen closely, you can actually hear the threads of Whitley's final credibility shredding as he speaks...

S'great! :)
 
I think he is a so-so writer with a limited inventory of ideas. He needed a gimmick to get published and stay in print. So, he pulled a blair witch.

Part of success in writing [A VERY BIG PART!!!] involves nurturing a readership (i.e. market) for your work. Not just any readership, but a loyal readership of a certain minimum threshold level (in terms of numbers). They will buy anything you write.

Without this -- in a demonstrable form -- you may get published once. But you will never get published again. And you will never make a living at it.

This is his gimmick.
 
I agree, I'm pretty scared about the state of the US right now, and I'm Canadian. It always winds up directly affecting us though, so we tend to keep a close eye on what's going on south of our borders.

As for Strieber, I too wonder if he is slipping into insanity. I think there's something to the idea that he doesn't seem to have a skeptical bone in his body and is immersed in conspiracy, new age thinking, aliens, and other pretty out there concepts. That combined with what seems to have been happening to him (abductions) and the fact that he seems to be surrounded mostly by "yes men" and isn't challenged too often on stuff almost makes it seemingly inevitable that his psyche would take a real hit over the years.
 
David Biedny said:
We've had email interactions with Whitley in the past, he's been invited on the show multiple times, and he keeps dropping the ball. I don't think he's ready to face an actual, real discussion, he's into the lightweight "interviewers". Too bad.

dB
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I said it on another forum, but I gave up on Whitley ages ago when he started having William Henry preach his New Age goofiness and snake oil on his podcast. LMH doesn't help the listening equation with her willingness to believe anything and everything anyone tells her either. His association with them ruins his credibility. It's sad.
 
I dont know what's going on with Whitley Strieber, but I think its a pretty bold claim to suggest hes been consciously lying and building a bigger and bigger deception over the last 20yrs or so.

Not impossible of course, but the weight of that would eventually crush most people, I would think. Who knows, maybe at some point in the future (say, in January 2013) he will come clean and clear his conscious.

Maybe he is really experiencing all that stuff.
 
Gareth said:
I dont know what's going on with Whitley Strieber, but I think its a pretty bold claim to suggest hes been consciously lying and building a bigger and bigger deception over the last 20yrs or so.

Not impossible of course, but the weight of that would eventually crush most people, I would think. Who knows, maybe at some point in the future (say, in January 2013) he will come clean and clear his conscious.

Maybe he is really experiencing all that stuff.
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That's why he needs to be on the paracast,so Gene and David can hopefully get to the bottom of his claims.IMO.The dude sounded like he was almost crying during that interview.
 
something you experienced sometimes takes on a life of its own. You tell one person about it, the next gets a bit more detail. maybe one of them adds a bit of embellishment themselves, and you hear it so often, you absorb it into your experience. people start to pay attention to you, you get asked all kinds of questions, people want to be seen as 'knowing' you. it becomes cool to be one of your circle. after a while, the story becomes old, and people start to treat you as old news and begin to pay more attention to a new story...
you 'remember' something else that happened that just now surfaced and...
go on for another while like that until you feel your audience is becoming bored and add another bit, and another and another until you have put yourself in a corner that is so full of traps you can no longer dig yourself out.
the only option you see is to keep up with the stories you have created, if you tell the truth now, your entire audience will dump you in a flash and you will become another delusional hick who saw a ufo...
never mind that in all of this there was maybe a bright kernel of truth, all the bs has put a big pile of mold on it and the shine is really gone.

that's my theory on how people like Streiber become caricatures of themselves.
 
Jonah said:
Some may have seen this. Another take on Whitley as observed by Aeolus Kephas.

Through a Fractured Glass, Darkly

"What are we to make of the strange case of Whitley Strieber?

Worth the read, whether you're a fan or not.
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Aeolus Kephas, obviously a pseudonym, is one strange guy, himself. It's hard to say exactly what he believes, but he is definitely in the believer camp. Check out: http://kephas.podomatic.com/.

He might be an interesting guest.
 
Schuyler said:
Aeolus Kephas, obviously a pseudonym, is one strange guy, himself. It's hard to say exactly what he believes, but he is definitely in the believer camp. Check out: http://kephas.podomatic.com/.

He might be an interesting guest.
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I don't know if you could consider him a believer exactly... he is very weird, but very interesting indeed. He basically breaks down reality in order to achieve a mystical understanding of the nature of reality, or lack of any real reality at all... or something like that. He's very interesting to listen to... In following his stuff there were times I was ready to write him off as totally insane but then he'd touch on something completely brilliant. It's definitely an interesting exploration of the mind if nothing else.

I don't think you'd get him as a guest though as he ended his podcast and did an interview on Red Ice that basically sounded like he was done with any public interviews or airings of his own Stormy Weather podcast for now. That is the impression he gave anyway.

EDIT: I just followed your link and noticed he's got new material up. Oh wow.... awesome! I would be dumbfounded to hear how an interview with him on the Paracast would play out. It could be very interesting or a total trainwreck.
 
aNorthernSoul said:
EDIT: I just followed your link and noticed he's got new material up. Oh wow.... awesome! I would be dumbfounded to hear how an interview with him on the Paracast would play out. It could be very interesting or a total trainwreck.
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Listening to it now. Pretty interesting character. I bet he gets lots of chicks.
 
skunkape said:
Listening to it now. Pretty interesting character. I bet he gets lots of chicks.
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Ha ha! He's married now. If you listen somewhere in the middle of the episodes before he had apparently quit (Closing Time was to be the last) he discussed interaction with women... it was... odd.

I would totally recommend starting at episode one and working your way through if you are at all interested in abstract thought. There may be times you want to smash your mp3 player or laugh hysterically... other times though, you'll be glad you explored it, in my opinion.
 
Well...one thing to know about WS is that he is a writer - and he makes a livelihood based on that. So I already accept thats part of who he is. I also think that what he's gone through really happened to him and that he really believes it. I think it took a lot of courage to write Communion back in the 1980s. In fact Communion was one of the books, along with other subsequent books that he has out, that really got me thinking about many of the weirdness and strangeness behind this phenomena and to that I give him props. I don't agree or subscribe to his opinions on the phenomena but I think he is important and I wouldn't be real quick to conclude that because he is a writer he shouldn't be taken seriously. I think that would be to underestimate him. Now with that said, I think that his being a writer and basically known for that, withint the UFO community and the public he has a role and responsibility to help assist in trying to figure out what this phenomena is all about. I do have some reservations that he may also be carrying out an agenda by the ETs/aliens/vistors and I don't necessarily agree with that - many I have heard that he collaborating with that agenda - and I think some people are right about that. But I wouldn't dismiss him at all...I think he is important to how this entire thing turns.
 
Gotta agree with Skunkape on the obnoxious panhandling. Horrid.

I've been a defender of Whitley's for a long time, but not any longer. His writing prior to his encounters was good. Vampires don't interest me at all, but I thought he brought them into some sort of reasonably enjoyable and current fiction. He made them freshly horrifying.

Even enjoyed all his books pertaining to his encounters whether I put much stock in his experiences as truly extraterrestrial or not at the time.

But he writes crap now. I know he's trying to recover from severe financial loss, but he's either lost his edge or he's given over to crass commercialism. For a fine writer to have fallen so low is truly sad.

His journal entries and occasional interviews on radio or television reflect his general confusion. One week I'll hear he thinks his life is blessed due to his experiences. The next week he's near tears saying his life is hellish and he would give anything to have lived normally.

I guess it's fair to say that the dichotomy is warranted, given his experiences, but it may also point to a real psychotic break. Whatever, he's become someone I avoid now. It hurts to watch someone crack up.
 
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