a.k.a Philip Deane
How ridiculous can it get? No one is after blood or his head! More disingenuous crap. These excuses for his behavior are absolutely childish and absurd. The guy has proven that he cannot be trusted. What is so hard to understand about that concept?
C'mon now you guys. You are acting like he broke into your homes, shot your wives and raped your cat! Maybe you should both step back a wee bit and have a look at how you are reacting or overreacting. Maybe you both spend too much time here. Get back out into the real world and get some perspective. I can't believe how hysterical some of the stuff being written here looks.Quoted for truth.
He wasnt pushed to do anything, if you read his "explanation" he did it because he wanted to win....... Thats it, unable to make his point with honest and open discussion, he resorted to dirty tactics, the purpose ? in his own words to "win".
My thoughts exactly, if this goes unpunished then its the default standard from here on in, we may as well all whip up second accounts to be as insulting and as rowdy as we like.
Its now acceptable behaviour, as evidenced by the response of those who run the forum, and those making excuses for steve.
Turn a blind eye to this and the gold standard becomes a dirty pewter in hue
No-one has said that it acceptable to have sock puppet accounts, Mike. Not even a hint. Everybody here agrees that it is wrong. You seem to have pulled that out of your arse. It's pretty obvious that Steve doesn't like you Mike for some reason. He just went about telling you in a misguided way. If you have a problem with the gold standard being tarnished, take it up with Gene. Gene does not seem to have as big an issue as both of you and is prepared to give Steve some time out but not banishment. Not everybody wants him banned. Get over it. Get over yourself.
Ricky. No one is making excuses for Steve. Not me, Kim or anyone. You have taken what has been said in defence of Steve entirely the wrong way.I don't know how to make it any more clear to you. Steve fucked up. Simple. He has apologised and removed himself from the forums, perhaps for good who knows. That's good enough for Gene and it's good enough for me.
What we have offered here are possible explanations for WHY he may have acted like he did and asked for some consideration for his years of untarnished participation as reasons for not having him banned. If you never want to forgive him fine. But as for him returning at some stage, he would be welcome in my book.
And how are we expected to view your behavior in this Ricky? To me you seem to be coming across as an unyielding forum captain who, despite the owner's (Gene) adjudication on the matter, thinks that people here are not allowed to make mistakes and atone for them. Unforgiving and thin skinned perhaps. You are entitled to your opinion Ricky and i am sorry that you have been subjected to this unfortunate event but you have to remember that not everyone agrees with your handling of this either. Or your opinion on how it should be handled by Gene and the moderators. Even Angelo has said that he has made peace with Steve. And i don't see him calling for his banishment (unless i have missed that somewhere).
Both of you have said things here about Steve, subsequently, that are every bit as bad as what he has done. Does that make you both any better than he? I think not.
Get over it, move on!