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OK, Scarlett O'Hara, settle your nerves.Does that gratify you ?
Is that what you want to achieve ?
Is that your contribution to the debate ?
If the answer is Yes to any of those then you are just trolling us.
Genuine research and debate on this topic seeks more than "something else" as input.
Do you have anything of real substance to add to the debate ? (Protip "something else" isn't worth anything)
Please provide one example.The ETH is lacking
We've been getting credible reports of the exact same kinds of apparently instantaneous dramatic accelerations and silent nonaerodynamic levitation by these unexplained devices for about 70 years now. If you're suggesting that we've secretly had that level of capability since the late 1940s, then it's safe to say that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, because we still don't even have a clear conceptual strategy for producing the signature performance characteristics of the anomalous UFOs reported over the last seven decades.Not Every Pilot Is Read-In On Everything.
We've been getting credible reports of the exact same kinds of apparently instantaneous dramatic accelerations and silent nonaerodynamic levitation by these unexplained devices for about 70 years now. If you're suggesting that we've secretly had that level of capability since the late 1940s, then it's safe to say that you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about, because we still don't even have a clear conceptual strategy for producing the signature performance characteristics of the anomalous UFOs reported over the last seven decades.
No, that's not a pertinent example. I asked you for one example where the ETH is lacking. The legitimacy or illegitimacy of any given case is irrelevant to the logical and factual credibility of the ETH itself.Roswell. There's an example.
Not at all - I don't believe any case 100% because any specific case can be a hoax, mistake, delusion, PsyOp, whatever. I'm looking at the key features of UFO sighting reports in general, which have been both unique and eerily consistent for at least 70 years, and then I'm comparing those features with the history of theoretical physics and applied sciences, to conclude that the key features of the most credible UFO reports over the last 70 years can't be achieved with today's technology (almost certainly) and definitely couldn't be achieved with the state of human technology of half a century ago.You're believing everything you hear in the reports and you're accepting video at face value.
Yeah your professional opinion its "something else"OK, Scarlett O'Hara, settle your nerves.
As regards my bonafides for speaking here in this forum, ask Gene, Chris, Don Ecker, Greg Bishop and the others who've seen my DD214 and documents etc etc etc. And regarding the substance I've added, I gave it to you: my professionally experienced opinion. You just simply disagree with it and you don't like how I express myself. But that's OK because you're not my type and I'm not asking you out for an evening on the town.
The subject matter itself seems to interest most of us, so it's all about credibility and bandwagon effect from there. It just needed a couple of serious articles by reputable newspapers, and others followed, which sort of allowed the public to speak about it seriously as well.One thing however is the undeniable change in the media's attitude toward the subject. This is nothing short of a paradigm shift. Too bad the sort of unification I'd hoped for in the ufology community hasn't materialized or we'd be in a position to leverage this opportunity for all it's worth. Instead the community remains divided and focused on territory and self-interest and the TTSA doesn't seem to be any exception.
That's what seems to have happened to the O'Hare case. Pretty much everybody seemed to just wait to see what time does. It just faded away, like memories. It could have been something more, there could have been reliable witnesses to be interviewed, maybe even pics. To me it has always looked like a missed opportunity. It took more than a decade before this Nimitz case hit the news and I once again had real reason to look at the matter seriously. If this doesn't lead to anything, well, let's talk about the next one maybe in 2030 or something then...The best thing to do is go about our business and see what time does for this whole thing.
I have seen similar stories in other forums. It seems like they are using that as their excuse for not answering to anything. The more I have seen how they operate, the more worried I am. Because of that:On this note I wrote to the TTSA people asking them why they had no serious ufologists on their team and they told me that they could not answer my question and referred me to their public relations circular. A follow-up request asking them why they could not answer my question has gone unanswered. Needless to say I'm not impressed.
There has always been media making "Elvis was an alien" type of articles, and I believe that most understand those tell more about the media and less about the actual subject. It's not that hard to see that the media is a separate entity from the subject they are reporting about.It's just a matter of time before the media messes up and are embarrassed by airing some hoax video or story they think is legit because they don't do their homework first and are just hungry for ratings. Then it will all go back to not being taken seriously.
2004 USS Nimitz Tic Tac UFO FLIR footageI think it's fair to say Fravor is a party to an effort to solicit investments for anti-gravity technology, ie, a salesman.
I don't think we know that money didn't change hands. He's had his story aired to millions of people all across major media. So it's not like an interview for TTSA was helping him get his story out. More like he was contributing his fame to assist what I believe is an obvious effort to dupe and bamboozle people on a false promise that their "investment" will bring about anti-gravity technology. Surely this is one of or the biggest scam(s) in the annals of woo-woo. I'd like to believe it was true, but my BS meter has maxed out.
Wish I could!OK how about quietly sliding through a 22 million dollar off-the-books allotment to investigate UFOs and we'll operate it out of a fictional janitorial office down there on the lower parking level?
I emphatically disagree with that statement.It is a very complicated situation and I don't think that promoting one particular interpretation of it is wise or helpful.
Holy cow – is this what we’ve come to? Shall we now embrace numerology, astrology, phrenology, and palmistry? Rubbish.psycho-forensic anagrammatical analysis