You talk about attacking ones character… lol
I give what I get. When some anonymous online poster resorts to the tired and flagrantly dishonest debate tactic of characterizing my perfectly reasonable argument as the ravings of some credulous religious zealot, then the gloves come off:
Very good questions that most likely will go unanswered, as the fervent faithful of the flock cry, “unfair & hostile”…. lol
And apparently that’s your favorite underhanded strategy – to attack someone’s character rather than their argument, because you just did it again:
In having an acute case of believer fever, I was simply attempting to talk you down.
My position has nothing to do with belief. It has everything to do with these unassailable facts:
1.) Luis Elizondo informed us about the existence of the AATIP that he directed at the Pentagon. This revelation has been confirmed by the Pentagon and Sen. Harry Reid.
2.) He took great personal and professional risk to do so – he quit his job at the Pentagon to get this information out and his future now depends on the success of a risky venture with the To The Stars Academy. How many people have taken a similar risk to get significant information about this topic released? I can’t think of a single one in many decades.
3.) He provided an impressive report backed by at least two of our top gun Navy fighter jet pilots, Cmdrs. Fravor and Slaight, as an example of the kind of credible cases that he investigated while directing the AATIP. Again, this is a first in perhaps 50 years. And Mr. Elizondo even got classified ATFLIR footage declassified and released to the press, which is historically unprecedented. If he hadn’t done so through proper official channels then he would’ve been arrested by now, because releasing classified military intelligence is a criminal offense that’s taken very seriously by federal law enforcement.
4.) These efforts have completely reshaped the public conversation about this topic: the mainstream media is finally taking this subject seriously. Virtually overnight, witnesses like myself are no longer in the horrific position of facing open ridicule for sharing our highly exotic sighting experiences and discussing their enormous implications. So now scientists and ufologists alike have new license to publicly discuss and constructively debate the presence of unearthly technology in our skies. This is a major victory for every single one of us who takes this subject seriously.
5.) We have every reason to believe that Mr. Elizondo’s credentials are 100% legit, because if they weren’t, the Pentagon would’ve publicly challenged them, and he probably would’ve been arrested (because surely it’s illegal to impersonate a Pentagon official and/or lie about one’s positions in the military and intelligence communities).
6.) This story is facing substantial pushback from those within the counterintelligence community
who didn’t want this story to come out.
Given these facts, I frankly find the efforts to sow suspicion about this man and what he’s done, downright despicable. And you’ve been a prolific leading voice in those efforts from the beginning over in this thread
. For example:
Some who sit on DeLonge’s board have been viewed as somewhat questionable, and to me the alleged alien “metals & material” being stored in Vegas is altogether absurd.
Just like the Roswell slides and Jamie Maussan, I am fairly certain there is no government on the face of this planet that would allow TomCo to break such earth-shattering news.
Color me skeptical for doubting Mr. Elizondo’s narrative.
As of late, I’ve had some free time on my hands (perhaps too much) in entertaining the idea that Luis Elizondo could possibly be Christopher Mellon’s errand boy.
If Elizondo were forthright, there would be no need for any of this nonsense, as there seems to be the need to sooth the self-inflected gaping wound the man has created with additional obfuscation.
As the days, and weeks, and months roll by, as Elizondo’s deeds are revealed, I can picture a bust of Elizondo atop a Ufological hill.
Although, entirely different, there seems to be a certain element of deception in respect to this news story. If so, there will be quite a few decent, well-meaning folks, who will have lost a certain amount of their credibility, along with Ufology in receiving another public flogging.
Will Elizondo turn out to be the new Richard Dotty, as DeLonge becomes Bennewitzed?
… or perhaps DeLonge may be considered as merely complicit in this unfolding holiday tragedy to be considered as the Christmas massacre of Ufology.., 2017.
Sadly, there may be a hint of truth hidden somewhere within the enormous pile of shtick that will be cast aside in trade for Ufology’s latest bloodletting.
So much for Elizondo’s bluster …
But who is Luis Elizondo? Where are this guy's credentials? I've seen not one shred of evidence this gentleman actually worked for the DoD in any capacity outside of what the media is saying? Even the Wikipedia article refuses to credit this man as the program director or coordinator in any capacity: Advanced Aviation Threat Identification Program - Wikipedia
There may be a “gentle conditioning” underway in massaging open millions of wallets and purses.
IMHO, there’s something seemingly foul afoot, and it’s not a Christmas goose.
Perhaps Mr. Elizondo isn’t quite what he professes to be.
I agree. Make the lie big enough and they’ll believe it. Not only that..., they’ll embrace it, irrespective of what it may be.
Recall when Trump stated that he could commit a murder in Times Square & his faithful followers would not care less?
I mean, look at all that stuff - it's like attacking Luis Elizondo's credibility is a full-time job for you. And you habitually characterize everyone who's excited about this story as a religious zealot.
I’ve been following this story very closely, and I’ve seen/heard every interview that Luis Elizondo has given in recent weeks, and it’s absolutely crystal clear to me that this man is not only perhaps the best new ally that we here in the field of ufology have had in decades, but he’s also a straight-shooting patriot who has displayed a rare degree of courage and commitment to help us move this entire subject forward. And his ultimate objective – to understand and replicate the performance capabilities of these anomalous aerial devices – is identical to my own primary lifelong ambition. If we can actually engineer these capabilities, then we can absolutely transform human civilization and throw open the doors to interstellar spaceflight for our children.
But many people seem to regard this as some kind of twisted juvenile game to see who can present the most cynical/jaded/sinister take on all of this. And they don’t care one bit about casting baseless aspersions against this man, and the people like me who apprehend the significance of these developments and what’s at stake – which is nothing less than the future of our species. If anyone doubts that last part, I would direct your attention to; the perilous neofeudal imbalance of the global economy, global warming, the epidemic of hopelessness/depression/anxiety around the world, the disastrous US policy of relentlessly obliterating entire nations for the war profiteers, and the mass extinction event that our civilization has triggered. Interstellar spaceflight capability and a potentially powerful new energy technology could turn all of that around. It’s the one real ray of hope that I can see to avert a new Dark Age that is already knocking on our door.
So do I take all of this very seriously and bristle at those people like Jon Rappoport who eagerly cast suspicions upon people like Luis Elizondo who are fighting for public awareness of this subject and also for a better and brighter future for humankind?
You’re damn right I do. And if I step on anyone’s toes in the process, then I think they should sincerely ask themselves which side of history they’re standing on.
What is interesting is that because I have been sidetracked recently, I haven't seen an interview with Mr. Elizondo yet, so I am writing this 'blind'.
Happily uforadio has compiled an excellent library of video and audio clips that include several interviews with Mr. Elizondo here:
Pentagon UFO Study
Here’s Luis Elizondo’s interview on CNN:
It’s perfectly plain to me - and I would think anyone else with a reasonably discerning mind - that this is an earnest man speaking frankly. Totally unlike shifty weasels/liars like Bob Lazar and Richard Doty. And for those folks who don’t trust their own sense of character, I suppose all that I could offer them is a forensic analysis of Mr. Elizondo’s body language, which echoes my own impressions:
Body Language Analysis №4155: Luis Elizondo Interview — Former Military Intelligence Official Who…