The Missile FINALLY EXPLAINED !!

[Jeff Crowell]

I think it would be good to keep a-breast of the situation.

git it?

 

[ArchieBedford]

Holy sh*t!



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Sounds like story time. What was this other character's story?

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During a conference there we stayed in this (actually quite comfortable and OK) place near the centre of town, where the owner claimed she was "In contact with the commander of the Orion Fleet" who had messages for ME! Well I listened attentively...

 

[stonehart]

I found this bit of info"The mystery missile discussed on Slashdot Tuesday? It was US Airways 808 from Honolulu to Phoenix. An amateur sleuth checked the time against airline schedules, then the following day, checked out a webcam that was trained in the appropriate direction. He found the exact same contrail at the time AWE808 was coming over. The author deals persuasively with a number of objections to his argument."

 

[stonehart]

Finally got to listen to the show where you play an audio clip from this lady Don.
I tell you she has got nothing on scientology and whatever drugs she is on she either needs to stop taking them or if they are meant to stabilize her mind she needs more.
I tell you that brief glimpse into her world is just to frightening to contemplate.
Funny yes but scary at the same time.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Maybe this one can take the first trip to mars

 

[trainedobserver]

I'm convinced it was an airplane contrail. I think the talk about Chinese missile launches and whatnot are unsupportable speculation. Does anyone seriously think that our reaction to a Chinese missile launched off our coast would be head scratching and "non-action?" I suspect the reality of the situation was that the NRO knew it was AWE808 from Hawaii to Phoenix after a cursory check. The fact that the NRO doesn't tell all it knows shouldn't surprise anyone.

Unfortunately, I think this means that Oprah will not be clearing her calendar to get Colleen on her show anytime soon.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

I have to agree with Agent Walter it was some type of 'clearing station operation' or 'mole hunt' maybe to see how many ops are in the conspiracy club websites etc? Also take the heat off the Fed money spending spree and what bills were passed during that day in question However, who said the Cold War was over it just blossomed into upfront togetherness but behind the scene China & Russia has more partners with bigger stockpiles due to leagl and illegal arms contractors who money is more important than their NATION. Also all the so called USA allies have jumped ship for better trade conditions and behind closed door security deals.

Peace not War,
BF

 

[dad2059]

I have to agree with Agent Walter it was some type of 'clearing station operation' or 'mole hunt' maybe to see how many ops are in the conspiracy club websites etc? Also take the heat off the Fed money spending spree and what bills were passed during that day in question However, who said the Cold War was over it just blossomed into upfront togetherness but behind the scene China & Russia has more partners with bigger stockpiles due to leagl and illegal arms contractors who money is more important than their NATION. Also all the so called USA allies have jumped ship for better trade conditions and behind closed door security deals.

Peace not War,
BF

Get ready for the New Middle Ages in which you'll see mega-corporations and city-states with more money than whole nations and no middle-class except merchants, banksters and their government acolytes.

 

[Kieran]

However, who said the Cold War was over it just blossomed into upfront togetherness but behind the scene China & Russia has more partners with bigger stockpiles due to leagl and illegal arms contractors who money is more important than their NATION. Also all the so called USA allies have jumped ship for better trade conditions and behind closed door security deals.

Peace not War,
BF

The situation and times have changed, the large US Multinationals that build up companies around Europe in the early eighties, have moved again to the Far East, and Eastern Europe. This has weakened more so the small countries in the EU, but also the large countries somewhat. At since China and India are emerging economies and both have excessively large populations, there is a unique opportunity there if the Chinese and India people, allow is, to export large amount of goods to them countries. I'm a EU Ciitizen, if dealing with India and China, well helps Ireland's fragile economy I see no problem with it at all.

If you live in America, and have a nationalist view about your country, I guess I can see why you be pissed of with Europe dealing with the so called "Communist Chinese" but you got to remember American companies are pulling out of Europe at an alarming rate, and hence have caused rapid unemployment within the private sector. Governments in Europe, have to borrow more from the Central Bank, to pay the extra people joining the dole queues, less tax revenues are coming in, which means then the're is less money to put back into the economy to make it stronger and stable, hope you can see what countries are looking to sell to countries that may not adhere to Westernism as we know it?

If the're was ever a war between the Chinese and the United States, a I would support the country who I believe is defending themselves from aggression, be it the United States or China!

The last fifty years of the United States experiment, has left a sore taste in the mouthes of many. I wonder is it freedom and liberty, the United States brought to other countries, or is it tyranny and oppression? Most Americans I believe are blinded by there nationalist feelings, The German Reich was very successful in this, getting the masses to believe the nation is right in all it was doing.

I certainly don't want America to fail as a country, it has brought lot to the table to admire, but so often the greatest nations have presumed to know more, or know what is best for others, this policy as history confirms is doomed to fail in the long run.

The scariest thing though about war-mongering between nations like China and US, if it happens today or tomorrow, is the ability for each country to destroy vast amount's of each others infrastructure never mind the human cost.

Wars that could be won on the battlefield and in the air, that involve the big nations are all but over, the cost is too great to even think about, we came close a couple of times, incidents of were the the bear (the Soviet Union) sneaked a few missiles into Cuba, and brought us very close to the brink of Nuclear-winter. I honestly hope China and the United States never get to the stage were war is unavoidable between the two, what worries me this time around is the many differences between the United States and China, with Russia I happen to believe they were ain't much different from the Americans, just separated by an ideology.

 

[bbridges]

I'm not saying that it wasn't a contrail, though I've never seen a jet contrail like it. IF it was a chinese or N. Korean action,what kind of open response do you think our government would take, publicly?

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In the U.S., the debt exceeds the GNP. It wants to have its cake and eat it, too. There are no credible sources of news left here. It,s fallen to crass consumerism and opinion journalism, pumped up for profit of the few. Wall Street is corrupt even by the mediocre standards set and tolerated by those coopted by it. The chickens have come home to roost.People are blinded by out of date ideologies, and continue to behave as they are conditioned to behave. Thesis/antithesis/synthesis narrows the choices inexorably toward a heirarchical new feudalism, ruled by bloated, self-serving elites.What could one expect? Catastrophe!

 

[trainedobserver]

I'm not saying that it wasn't a contrail, though I've never seen a jet contrail like it. IF it was a chinese or N. Korean action,what kind of open response do you think our government would take, publicly?

I don't know for certain, but I would think an immediate military response would be forthcoming. At the very least a lot of diplomatic noise would be generated. Even if they or someone else caught us with our pants down like I find it unbelievable that "nothing" would happen in the way of a public response.

Maybe I'm naive, but I believe that the National Reconnaissance Office was able to identify it pretty quickly. In fact, I think no response occurred because it was a registered flight path. As I understand it, and I could be entirely misled, a missile launch off our coast would trigger a predetermined string of events that would be hard to hide from the general public.

To believe that another country could launch a missile off our coast and we would be unable or unwilling to respond to that action seems overly pessimistic to me. If that is true then the United States of America is being held hostage and both our military and civilian leaders are a gang of incompetent and criminal bunglers. Wait a minute ... wait a minute, at least half of that equation seems true.

Listen guys, we're getting off topic here. This thread is about Colleen and the dire information being communicated to her by her supernatural pimp. Let's try to stay focused. Now, did she say she was of the council of 35-D? Who are the other members? Are they selling a calendar? Why hasn't Anderson Cooper 360° done a special on her yet?

 

[Kieran]

Well if China fired a missile off the coast of the United States, with no permission, essentially that is statement of hostile intent, which can be acted upon by the United States so willing. I personally can't believe, the Chinese would issue orders to the commanders of a sub to engage in such a action, and how they bloody hell would a Chinese sub not be detected coming in and going out, and not engaged by a destroyer or vessel of some kind. I have to believe, but willing to change my mind if it was a missile it was fired by Americans, be it civilians or the military, or it was some secret black project program which would explain the secrecy.

 

[trainedobserver]

how they bloody hell would a Chinese sub not be detected coming in and going out,

A Chinese submarine surfaced within torpedo range of the Kitty Hawk during war games in the Pacific recently. They are jacking with us. I just don't think they would risk a nuclear exchange by launching missiles off our coast. I could be wrong of course.

 

[Kieran]

A Chinese submarine surfaced within torpedo range of the Kitty Hawk during war games in the Pacific recently. They are jacking with us. I just don't think they would risk a nuclear exchange by launching missiles off our coast. I could be wrong of course.

Do you know, were the war games took place, were abouts in the Pacific? 35 Miles of the coast of United States, thats act of war, look how much trouble was caused when missiles were put in place in Cuba by the Soviets, and Cuba was hundreds of miles away and the missiles were never fired. I have feeling this games were held around seas or territory close to Japan or around that region?

 

[stonehart]

I don't know for certain, but I would think an immediate military response would be forthcoming. At the very least a lot of diplomatic noise would be generated. Even if they or someone else caught us with our pants down like I find it unbelievable that "nothing" would happen in the way of a public response.

Maybe I'm naive, but I believe that the National Reconnaissance Office was able to identify it pretty quickly. In fact, I think no response occurred because it was a registered flight path. As I understand it, and I could be entirely misled, a missile launch off our coast would trigger a predetermined string of events that would be hard to hide from the general public.

To believe that another country could launch a missile off our coast and we would be unable or unwilling to respond to that action seems overly pessimistic to me. If that is true then the United States of America is being held hostage and both our military and civilian leaders are a gang of incompetent and criminal bunglers. Wait a minute ... wait a minute, at least half of that equation seems true.

Listen guys, we're getting off topic here. This thread is about Colleen and the dire information being communicated to her by her supernatural pimp. Let's try to stay focused. Now, did she say she was of the council of 35-D? Who are the other members? Are they selling a calendar? Why hasn't Anderson Cooper 360° done a special on her yet?

You make a great point as to the zero response of the military etc to the said "missile launch". I find it extremely hard to believe that an un-known missile launch off the coast of the world’s largest super power would be met by silence. Just think for a moment if it had really been a missile? Do you not think that the defence and retaliation gears of the military would not have at least in some part started rolling? That sort of winding up would have been noticed. Really when you think about it hard the idea that it was some un-known missile launch is kind of laughable given that this is the exact thing that I would suspect the US defence system is looking for. The net result is that if it was an un-known hostile launch even just for show the chances of starting a chain of events that could end in a nuclear holocaust are far too great to risk such a show. China plays thing far to cool to be that rash and launch a missile that close given the risk of starting a chain reaction and Russia has been playing this game longer than China and believe me both know the rules and a display like that is just a little too risky.
So what are we left with? A registered flight maybe or a missile test that the US does not wish to talk about? In short if it was a missile then the powers that be must have known that it was going to happen or we would all be getting really good sun tans right now if you know what I mean. I suspect that the registered flight of a commercial jet will turn out to be the best answer in the end.

 

[trainedobserver]

Ok and you have the this fact to contend with as well. Where are the other witnesses? A lone CBS helicopter takes a photograph of a "missile launch" that no one else saw or reported?

 

[stonehart]

Ok and you have the this fact to contend with as well. Where are the other witnesses? A lone CBS helicopter takes a photograph of a "missile launch" that no one else saw or reported?

Exactly there is far too little evidence to conclude that this was ever anything more than a photo of a jet contrail taken out context. Oh and yes it is interesting that it just so happens to be a film crew that get the photo ( dont know how you do things in the US but over here if there is a helicopter up with TV people in it they have more than just a single cam with them). Hell I worked in TV news for some time and I really do not trust TV News to even tell a little bit of truth.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Hi folks,
The temperature is rising with this announcement by NATO and are we seeing the domino falling into place could we see Russia flex, Iran dance and China Cough?
BBC News - Obama: Missile defence shield for all Nato members

Peace not War,
BF

 

[dyingsun]

CERN captured something mind-blowing.

Any Doomsday-prophets to rip apart ? (or gently dismantle )

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Also, you don't honestly think that a chinese sub could get that close to the californian shore, if you do, back it up.

 

[Anaximander]

Also, you don't honestly think tht a chinese sub could get that close to the californian shore, if you do, back it up.

Are you serious?

The USA is not an omnipotent god-thing upon the surface of the earth.

The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.
And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

The lone Chinese vessel slipped past at least a dozen other American warships which were supposed to protect the carrier from hostile aircraft or submarines.
And the rest of the costly defensive screen, which usually includes at least two U.S. submarines, was also apparently unable to detect it.

The uninvited guest: Chinese sub pops up in middle of U.S. Navy exercise, leaving military chiefs red-faced | Mail Online
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