dyingsun
Paranormal Adept
Now in the interests of honesty, you know that no matter what the picture shows it is not going to have that affect on you.
Ron, it is Lance, so...yeah.
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Now in the interests of honesty, you know that no matter what the picture shows it is not going to have that affect on you.
It would be useful for a seasoned field investigator to first compare the hair to known types before going through the expense of having it properly and professionally analyzed. In the past he has followed a very scripted and precise evidence gathering methodology. He has always sought the help of scientists to analyze the samples collected and has been pretty good on separating it all from the 'this is proof of alien origin' stuff. Lets not trash the guys evidence without seeing and evaluating it first. SNIP
Now you are getting it! It's ALL dodgy! That's the point... We should ALL question "this stuff, " just don't throw the baby out...So you don't find any of the other points made here dodgy at all? And no one should question this stuff, yeah?
Just on the face of it a lot was laughable: stuff you let slide by without even an raised eyebrow as you rushed to talk about dimensional portals and the like.
Now you are getting it! It's ALL dodgy! That's the point... We should ALL question "this stuff, " just don't throw the baby out...
As to what you consider laughable, the proof will never be in your pudding. Check out the crust, then sample the filling, for a change. Let Ted follow through with his promise of posting his data and/or visible evidence--then call out the other naysayers. If he doesn't--I'll help.
I think the Paracast is one place where the REAL nutrients of discovery are to be found--but you sometimes have to coax it out lest you scare it away. If you think I suck, that's OK, I'll get better. But you are right: In a perfect world, Ted's many years of work would be made available for peer review. IMO, he has amassed a veritable treasure trove of data that deserves scrutiny by science. I'd rather keep this emerging goal of discovery in mind rather than call the baby ugly while eagerly tossing it out w/ the bathwater...
I really can relate to this statement and I am eager to see his data when his website will be operational.People will occasionally say : "Why don't you have more really sharp definition photographs ?" Well, you go out in the pitch black dark, out in the woods, and I don't care how many cameras you have, or people, the way these things seem to operate, it's a really difficult job. Now we have some really, I think, good photos and some great videos, considering the circumstances. I mean, it's not like going out to the county fair and taking night shots pictures.
Just remember that the photo he has promised of the 500lb. White Wolfthing is a clear daylight photo, which is why I focused in on it.
I am well aware of how bad night shots can be. On Phillps' old site he has a photo of his so-called light-balls. The shot shows standard dust with flash (to the unbeliever, anyway) just like any of the millions of similar shots that are currently in vogue amongst the undiscriminating. I knew exactly what to expect when he described those.
But a clear daylight photo of a huge animal is different.
What apologies ? Are you talking to me ? You seem very emotional when it comes to refute points that threaten your world view. Don't worry, nobody will change your mind if you don't want to. In the meantime, some have moved on and are exploring other possibilities.So no need to apologize in advance for it. Save that for later.
Lance
One thing I have never understood, is that both NIDS and Ted have been studying their sites for any amount of time, and basically all we have heard is stories.... there has basically never been any evidence released. Ted talks about all the crazy things that have happened, and all the amazing scientists and vets that are on the case etc, but didnt he say he has been studying Marley woods for 12 years? 12 years and no evidence except a few grainy photos on his old website?
I have listened to basically all of teds podcasts on here, paratopia etc, and there always just some sort of excuse about how he has some greawt photo's but doesnt have the time or technology to put them up on the web. Yet at the same time he's telling us about all the many UFO books he is reading. Wouldn't you have thought that if you had spent 12 years studying something, you would use a little bit of the time that you spend reading books to show your amazing evidence to the world?
I'm not knocking him here, or saying that he doesnt have any evidence, but its just so frustrating that we never get to see any of it.
By your words I can only conclude that you may have fallen into the worst fallacy trap possible.Now you are getting it! It's ALL dodgy! That's the point... We should ALL question "this stuff, " just don't throw the baby out...
As to what you consider laughable, the proof will never be in your pudding. Check out the crust, then sample the filling, for a change. Let Ted follow through with his promise of posting his data and/or visible evidence--then call out the other naysayers. If he doesn't--I'll help.
I think the Paracast is one place where the REAL nutrients of discovery are to be found--but you sometimes have to coax it out lest you scare it away. If you think I suck, that's OK, I'll get better. But you are right: In a perfect world, Ted's many years of work would be made available for peer review. IMO, he has amassed a veritable treasure trove of data that deserves scrutiny by science. I'd rather keep this emerging goal of discovery in mind rather than call the baby ugly while eagerly tossing it out w/ the bathwater...
Ahh, but I said I would! Re-read my posts. Nobody gets a pass from me after making incredible claims--FWIW: I don't "believe" any of this stuff, I go out there and ascertain the data for myself. Just give the guy time to make good on his claims and then you can continue to woof if he doesn't, and I'll help lead the pack of howlers... Fair enough?By your words I can only conclude that you may have fallen into the worst fallacy trap possible. Jacques Vallee elaborated on this in his book Revalations [sic]. The trap is called "Spurious Data Sequencing" It entails someone making a remarkable claim and promising verification. When that promise is not kept you should by all rights disregard that person. But you won't.
How long does it take to post a photograph on the internet? If you claim to have one you show me now. If not, go away and stay away.Ahh, but I said I would! Re-read my posts. Nobody gets a pass from me after making incredible claims--FWIW: I don't "believe" any of this stuff, I go out there and ascertain the data for myself. Just give the guy time to make good on his claims and then you can continue to woof if he doesn't, and I'll help lead the pack of howlers... Fair enough?
Center for Physical Trace Research is up but everything appears to be pretty old. Am I looking in the right place?
Just remember that the photo he has promised of the 500lb. White Wolfthing is a clear daylight photo, which is why I focused in on it.
But a clear daylight photo of a huge animal is different.
So no need to apologize in advance for it. Save that for later.
Lance
Hello Paracastians!
Just wanted to mention that another week has gone by without super respected, word as good as gold, cream-of-the-crop paranormal researcher Ted Phillips delivering the clear daylight photo of the 500lb. Wolflike being that he promised he would put on his website.
I AM SO EXCITED!
Many folks have chimed in that it is hard to put up a web site, which may be true but that doesn't seem to be a problem here since his new site has been up for more than a week.
He sets a high standard for paranormal research as a "Modern-Day Indiana Jones" (which someone--can't remember who--called him) demonstrating the full rigor and effortless honesty that are hallmarks of the field!
Excelsior!
And I'll be sure to post here again next week.
Lance
Lance, some people may get annoyed at your sarcasm towards someone that's out there getting dirty and doing the work, unlike those armchair researchers . However, I agree with you that it is frustrating that it's been 3 weeks now and nothing. I'm pretty sure that he has nothing that proves anything conclusive that "Marley Woods" is some sort of nexus of the universe. It was an entertaining episode, we can all agree on that.