Okay, so I finished the show this morning on my commute and should probably chime in, here. I met Harry in April during the, yes, Top Secret Tours.....tour. He was a guest speaker for about half a day or more. He showed us the jail where the supposed strange-looking men disappeared. He took us out to the crash site and we spent an afternoon walking the desert. Then we had dinner and spoke with Harry and his lady-friend for a good couple of hours about Kingman, UFO's, and some more spiritual topics.
This may sound a bit apologetic about Harry but he's very intelligent though extremely hard-of-hearing. He's deaf in one ear and only has about 18% hearing in the other, which I believe is what contributed to the issues Gene experienced getting him to recognize the breaks. Harry wasn't being rude nor confrontational. I just doubt he could hear Gene's hints about taking the break. Sure, it made for some uncomfortable episodes but again I don't think either Harry nor Gene are to blame. On top of that Harry has a lot of information stored up in his mind about what he has discovered in his research about the Kingman events and, sometimes, he gets distracted. I can say that after several hours spent with the man it was still difficult for us to keep him on one subject. He just has too much knowledge up there and you have to keep him on track, sometimes. As you could tell at one point in the interview he was spinning off-topic even trying to establish a chronological timeline of events. It was the same when we visited Harry at Kingman and, since that time, he and I have exchanged emails frequently, forming a small friendship, I would say. When Chris speaks to him this weekend I have little doubt he'll come to the same results about Harry as I did.
With that being said, do I believe anything UFO-related in Kingman in the early 1950's? No. I don't. I'm on board with Gene in the suspicion about some of Harry's sourcing. Harry mentioned he did research work at the library and hall of records, and he has over 15 witnesses he's interviewed but I find that lacking. Such research may be sufficient for historical work but this is more than simple history and maybe Harry doesn't realize that. What he's doing here, with the Kingman UFO crashes is on par with building a criminal case and he can't stop at "I can only go off of what the witnesses say." That's not good enough in this field, (if you want to call it that.)
Okay, so he has 15 witnesses, but how did Harry vet those witnesses? Were they eye-witnesses or 2nd or 3rd hand witnesses like the witnesses the Ramsey's used in their Aztec research? On top of that, what kind of hard-core documentation does Harry have? I would say one, authentic, good government document about the Kingman events in the hand is worth three witnesses in the bush. He's stated repeatedly that the government was involved with the crash retrieval process but has he filed any Freedom of Information Act requests about the event? We've all heard from other researchers that FoIA requests typically turn up nothing but Harry still needs to do his due diligence and try.
I don't know exactly what-all Harry has in the form of documentation but it sounds like witness hear-say and that's not real good for establishing a base-line argument for the case(s). However the fact he hit the field and sought out the potential (if questionable), physical crash sites is admirable in my opinion. A lot more about Harry's case will come out when he releases his book and/or documentary which I'm praying is soon. Perhaps this will change my mind about the events surrounding Kingman but for now I'm extremely skeptical about the case(s). Still, though I may not believe in the Kingman crashes I do separate the fact that Harry is a great guy pursuing something he's passionate about, and what he believes may be a series of UFO crashes in the Arizona desert. I'm in a holding pattern about Kingman until he comes out with the book. I'm doubtful it will change my mind but full judgement is reserved until then, in my case. I'm hoping he keeps asking the questions.....the right questions and who knows? Maybe Kingman will turn out to be a greater impact on UFO research than Roswell. (There....I said the "R" word.)
Peace.