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pixelsmith said:
amazing display of sheepmanship angel... you have been programmed well.
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As usual, since you have nothing to say, you call me a "sheeple."
You've never been able to back up the garbage you think you're right about. And when you do, you misquote someone, or post a link to a useless blog. It's sad.
 
Guys guys guys. You're all missing the most important point. Only after the inevitable South Park episode concerning this event airs will we know what we should really think. Matt and Trey will reveal the grand design as well as Cartman's involvement. You just know that little shit is in this up to his fat little chin. Until then we are all jumping the gun. Oh yes.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
You've never been able to back up the garbage you think you're right about. And when you do, you misquote someone, or post a link to a useless blog. It's sad.
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please list all garbage i think i am right about and we can discuss one at a time. as you know, i have no problem admitting when i am wrong.
 
pixelsmith said:
please list all garbage i think i am right about and we can discuss one at a time. as you know, i have no problem admitting when i am wrong.
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I did, in post number 78.
However, we don't want to go off topic, so if you do want to discuss those things, just start a new thread explaining why you are right and why the "sheeple" are wrong.

Working Title: Why the Sheeple are Wrong

You can provide all your proof and links to sources that show the conventional sources i refer to for my info are wrong and why yours are right.

I have no problem admitting I am wrong either.
I used to think that Global Warming was a myth, that 9/11 was an inside job, that aliens were abducting people, etc. I can admit I was wrong about that because evidence shows me otherwise.
Thanks.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
I did, in post number 78.
However, we don't want to go off topic, so if you do want to discuss those things, just start a new thread explaining why you are right and why the "sheeple" are wrong.

Working Title: Why the Sheeple are Wrong

You can provide all your proof and links to sources that show the conventional sources i refer to for my info are wrong and why yours are right.

I have no problem admitting I am wrong either.
I used to think that Global Warming was a myth, that 9/11 was an inside job, that aliens were abducting people, etc. I can admit I was wrong about that because evidence shows me otherwise.
Thanks.
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i agree, global warming is not a myth. it, like climate change is very real.
 
The mediatized culture in which we live produces information at such a rate that virtuality becomes a problem. If you trust that the newspapers and TV channels double-check the data they receive and have reliable sources, then you'll have no problem in taking what they say as true or, at least, valid. Otherwise, if you think that the media constitute a tool to manipulate public opinion you'll find it hard to believe the information they broadcast. It's virtually impossible to prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that Bin Laden is dead. On the first place who was he? All we saw of him were a few videos where he babbled about his beliefs. Even if his body was placed in front of us we wouldn't be able to positively identify him. DNA evidence is much more trustworthy, but if you add a lack of trust in the official authorities to the disbelief in the media, what you get is a huge question mark that will never fade away.
In the end, wether we believe the official story or simply discard it, it all comes down to the level of one's trust in the media and the government. What constitutes definitive proof of a certain claim? Photos and videos? Those can be easily staged. Lab test results? A conspiracy theorist can claim that such material can also be faked and/or manipulated.
When I read news of Bin Laden's death I recalled the news of Hitler's death. Bin Laden's corpse disappeared in the ocean. Hitler's corpse disappeared in the shadowy mists of USSR's woodlands. There will always be people saying that Bin Laden is alive, as many as those that claim that Hitler never died in that Berlin bunker.
 
Facius_Cardan said:
There will always be people saying that Bin Laden is alive, as many as those that claim that Hitler never died in that Berlin bunker.
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That is true.
If someone wants to call me a "sheeple" for trusting multiple news sources, I'll have to accept that. Unless someone proves it otherwise, I'll be okay with what I heard from Obama.
 
lancemoody said:
Yeah, you really need to look at adopting a policy for pure trolls. Mine is to just totally ignore them and pretend that they don't exist. These kinds of people are not here to discuss anything.
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would you care to discuss this?
 
And you know this — how?

OK, since we're all into wacky conspiracy theories, here's the one about the ET/Bin Ladin connection:

The Navy SEALS who engaged in that commando operation used night vision goggles.

According to the late Col. Philip Corso, night vision goggles were invented using reverse engineered alien technology.

I rest my case.

Or case my rest. :D
 
Gene Steinberg said:
And you know this — how?

OK, since we're all into wacky conspiracy theories, here's the one about the ET/Bin Ladin connection:

The Navy SEALS who engaged in that commando operation used night vision goggles.

According to the late Col. Philip Corso, night vision goggles were invented using reverse engineered alien technology.

I rest my case.

Or case my rest. :D
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Gene, "Ladin" in Arabic means "dead for years" Thus we get Osama bin Dead for years... jeez.
 
This story hasn't actually gone into conspiracy theory land yet. It's "new" news. We don't know everything. People legimately want to know the 4 Ws and the H.

"Why wasn't Bin Laden taken alive?" I read something where he was told to surrender or be killed. Why couldn't he be taken alive? He would have information that would be really useful in stopping further Al-Quaeda terrorism. If there is a good reason why Bin Laden couldn't be taken alive, I want to know. I am willing to accept a good reason.

"Why was Bin Laden buried quickly at sea?" U.S. officials say it's because they wanted to respect Muslim burial traditions. But there are imams who are saying they didn't respect their traditions properly anyway. Burial should be at land. U.S.officials say they couldn't get anyone to accept his body. Uh, hello...how about Guantanamo? It's land, we own it, and I'm sure the service members there would like to see his grave.

The problem with this may simply be that the whole post-mortem thing has been handled poorly by the U.S. They really appear to have been rushing without giving matters serious consideration. There may be Muslim traditions that should be followed -- but security matters should take precedence.The U.S. hasn't exactly been sensitive to Muslim traditions in much less serious matters in the past.

The final matter is that whether there is a conspiracy to have a theory about or not, Americans are no longer so trusting of their government and their military -- and rightly so given the way both have conducted themselves since 9/11. Americans are not going to just say "okay" and shut up. It is actually a very American thing to question authority and question the authorities -- at least in the America that I pledge allegiance to.
 
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