Wikileaks and UFOs

[Decker]

In the Wiki Leaks aftermath, one question has been raised by those people with an eye on the Govt. and UFOs connection ... where are the UFO docs Julian? Well .. guess what .. they may be coming to a Wiki Leaks computer very soon.

Decker

[SIZE=+1]WikiLeaks says upcoming documents address UFOs[/SIZE]

Posted on Friday, December 03, 2010 7:47:33 AM by maquiladora
LONDON (BNO NEWS) -- WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange on Friday in an online chat with the British newspaper The Guardian said that some of the upcoming U.S. diplomatic cables address unidentified flying objects (UFOs).
Assange was asked by a visitor of The Guardian whether WikiLeaks had ever received any documents relating to UFOs or extraterrestrials. In response, Assange said the receive many e-mails which relate to UFOs.
"Many weirdos email us about UFOs or how they discovered that they were the anti-christ whilst talking with their ex-wife at a garden party over a pot-plant," Assange wrote. "However, as yet they have not satisfied two of our publishing rules," he added, referring to WikiLeaks rules which state that documents cannot be self-authored and have to be original.
However, Assange said they do have real material which relates to UFOs. "It s worth noting that in yet-to-be-published parts of the cablegate archive there are indeed references to UFOs," he said, without providing other information.
WikiLeaks is currently in the process of publishing some 251,287 U.S. diplomatic cables it claims to have. As of Friday, however, only 667 cables were released.

 

[trainedobserver]

In my mind, if there is a modicum of truth to the "UFO cover-up", WikiLeaks or something like it is the logical vehicle for its eventual revelation rather than some official "Disclosure" effort.

 

[Wickerman1972]

Well, considering the first thing he said about them it looks like they aren't receiving genuine or very good ones.

 

[Facius_Cardan]

I don't think anything of real value to the UFO field will come out of Wikileaks. I don't doubt that the subject might be mentioned in some cables, but always in an innocuous fashion. Will it prove that the US government talks about UFOs? Probably. Will it contribute with anything else towards a better understanding of how much (or how little) they know about the matter? I guess no.

 

[trainedobserver]

To be honest about it I think the matter is very close to a "paperless" affair. If the subject is actually classified above nuclear weapons then I suspect very little about it is contained in diplomatic communications or written in a way that would be obvious.

 

[Christopher O'Brien]

This just in from Louis Jarvis:

> From: julian@wikileaks.org
> To: louiskervinjarvis
> Subject: WikiLeaks inspired "New media haven" proposal passes Parliament
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:38:04 +0100
>
> FYI:
>
> Reykjavik, Iceland; 4:00 UTC, June 16th 2010.
>
> The WikiLeaks advised proposal to build an international
> "new media haven" in Iceland, with the world's strongest
> press and whistleblower protection laws, and a "Nobel" prize for
> for Freedom of Expression, has unaminously passed the
> Icelandic Parliament.
>
> 50 votes were cast in favor, zero against, one abstained. Twelve
> members of parliament were not present. Vote results are available
> at http://www.althingi.is/dba-bin/atkvgr.pl?nnafnak=43014
>
> One of the inspirations for the proposal was the dramatic August 2009 gagging of
> of Iceland's national broadcaster, RUV by Iceland's then largest bank, Kaupthing:
>
> Two changes were made to the proposal from its original form as per
> the opinion of the parliament's general affairs committee. The first of these
> altered slightly the wording of the first paragraph so as to widen
> the arena for research. The second of these added two new items to
> the list of tasks for the government:
>
> - That the government should perform a detailed analysis,
> especially with respect to operational security,
> for the prospect of operating data centers in Iceland.
>
> - That the government should organize an international conference
> in Iceland regarding the changes to the legal environment being caused
> by expansion of cloud computing, data havens, and the judicial state
> of the Internet.
>

 

[Frank Stalter]

No shock here. The best UFO evidence is often very old declassified documents and oral histories that often aren't opened up to the public until after the subject's death. There is material in archival records that is already available and just waiting to be discovered or will be released some day that will change a lot of minds on the UFO phenomenon.

 

[ward]

Thanks Chris very interesting info, i like the idea of having a free press country, errr wait didn't we have one a while back?

 

[bbridges]

Not really, Ward. The'gob,mint' just got more invisible cooperation at the gatekeeper points, under the threat of revoking broadcast licenses, and the innuendo of 'patriotism'in the era of 'cold war' threats. Now that corporate power has replaced or superceded all other considerations, the media can openly recast itself, without the 'beard' of investigative passion or integrity. Money has turned all concerned into whores, period.

 

[ward]

Not really, Ward. The'gob,mint' just got more invisible cooperation at the gatekeeper points, under the threat of revoking broadcast licenses, and the innuendo of 'patriotism'in the era of 'cold war' threats. Now that corporate power has replaced or superceded all other considerations, the media can openly recast itself, without the 'beard' of investigative passion or integrity. Money has turned all concerned into whores, period.

Wow its the enigmatic Bill Bridges, i heard your going to be a guest tonight on Dark Matters, care to confirm or deny?

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Will it get invaded

 

[Skymon876]

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/12/ufo-news-wikileaks-chief-expect-ufo.html

WIKILEAKS CHIEF SAYS EXPECT UFO FILES IN UPCOMING RELEASES

WOW
WOW

 

[Ron Collins]

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010/12/ufo-news-wikileaks-chief-expect-ufo.html

WIKILEAKS CHIEF SAYS EXPECT UFO FILES IN UPCOMING RELEASES

WOW
WOW

I wouldn't get too excited. It will only be reports. Thats it. Even those will be dull and lead nowhere. What is needed is a whistleblower with documentation evidence. The problem is that this type of person isn't recruited for a position dealing with any real proof. They recruit people that keep their trap shut and take things to the grave. This and the ridiculous amount of compartmentalization of data is what makes quality leaked info about as likely as full governmental disclosure. It the government ever comes clean it will be after an undeniable event. Period.

 

[bbridges]

I would tell you, but then I'd have to kill you...bb(mib)

 

[CapnG]

I wouldn't get too excited. It will only be reports. Thats it. Even those will be dull and lead nowhere.

Yep, just like the French and British file dumps. Same level as the hick-in-the-cornfield type repots just with a nice shiny "official" governmental stamp on it, like it matters.

 

[Hitech Lolife]

The difference between previous documents on UFOs (like the M.O.D releases, FOIs from the U.S) are that these are over diplo cables. Why would a UFO incident report be submitted that way? These should at least be less formal and lacking redaction.

That's not to say they won't end up being mundane in nature. It could just be something like gossip about the Japanese PM's wife taking a trip to Venus in a UFO.

 

[Wickerman1972]

Everybody else probably knows but I just turned on the news and saw that Assange has been arrested. But after just about 90 seconds of watching it appears to be about rape rather than leaking sensitive documents. Wonder how many conspiracy theories that'll lead to.

 

[The Pair of Cats]

Everybody else probably knows but I just turned on the news and saw that Assange has been arrested. But after just about 90 seconds of watching it appears to be about rape rather than leaking sensitive documents. Wonder how many conspiracy theories that'll lead to.

The case centres around consensual sex with two women.

From MSNBC-"One of the women involved in the sexual abuse allegations told the Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbladet that she had had voluntary relations with him and had never wanted him to be charged with rape."."He is not violent and I do not feel threatened by him," she said."

 

[Wickerman1972]

The case centres around consensual sex with two women.

From MSNBC-"One of the women involved in the sexual abuse allegations told the Swedish daily newspaper Aftonbladet that she had had voluntary relations with him and had never wanted him to be charged with rape."."He is not violent and I do not feel threatened by him," she said."

Well, I'm not the one that arrested him.

I don't know what the details are, whether he's innocent or guilty, just that the charges are related to alleged sexual misconduct.

 

[trainedobserver]

But after just about 90 seconds of watching it appears to be about rape rather than leaking sensitive documents. Wonder how many conspiracy theories that'll lead to.

This is such a classic discrediting move that it is almost funny. This is exactly the kind of thing they set people up for that are giving them trouble. You discredit the individual and take the focus away from the issues the individual is championing.