Ray Stanford, (in my estimation) our most experienced veteran of 'UFO studies," will describe for Paracast listeners, his interpretation of the evolution of 'discoids' used in the Missippian game of "Chunkey", from the very first seeming alien craft effigies laboriously produced in magnetic hematite-magnetite, forward to discoids that became increasingly practical for use in "Chunkey" that was seemingly patterned after observations of anomalous disc-like, domed objects docking with long, narrow things that in this space age we might call 'motherships'.
A recent UFO Iconoclast(s) article claimed that there is no evidence whatsoever that ancient civilizations left any record or evidence of encounters with alien visitors or technology. The writer brashly declared, " My point is that human culture (art, writing, warfare et cetera) has been noted by the ancients right up to today, with no ubiquitous [huh?] insertion of UFOs or things that look like UFOs." Is the writer just ignorant of words he throws around, or just playing semantic games?
Any claim that no culture has left us evidence of "things that look like UFOs", is demonstrably FALSE, as shown in the following photos of ancient works of the Missippian culture of the American Indian, between 500 and 1,000 years ago, and the Fort Ancient culture of 1,000 to 1,750 years ago. As you will see, the objects speak for themselves rather loudly...
The following images are protected by copyright law, and unauthorized reproduction of them could lead to prosecution. Image-search technology may be used via the internet to detect any unauthorized uses of these images.
Below are two magnetic (thus with some magnetite) hematite discoids, from the old Piedrit collection, found in Hancock county, Illinois, late in 19th or early in 20th centuries, decades before the term 'flying saucer' ever came into usage. Although made between 1,000 and 500 years ago, they look strangely familiar. This type of Missippian discoid is evidently the earliest form of discoid from that culture, and they are the rarest of those finds. Perhaps they were 'magical' effigies of things seen in the sky (or closer?), intended for shamanic evocation of forces that might have been deemed associated with objects actually seen.
The largest of the three most "UFO"-like hematite (with magnetite) discoids in the Ray Stanford collection of more than 30 discoids of various materials and types, is shown in the next slide at upper-right (# 3). The 'Salt River' type discoids, which lack a dome on either side, are interpreted as the next discoid development phase, toward more practical-to-roll (on the ground) game pieces. *Map shows find locations.*
Twenty-six years before the term "flying saucer" or "flying disc" entered our vocabulary, the discoid seen below was found during tree-clearing of a bluff above the Illinois River, just outside Havana, Illinois. If we look closely, we see what may be residue of small mother-of-pearl shell discs that might have been placed in the peripheral holes around the flange and dome. If that was the situation, then the discoid would have looked even more like an anomalous aerial object (AAO) with plasma-generating 'emitters' arranged exactly as we see them sequentially generating plasma in the inserted black and white photo from January 2, 1979, taken in Penang, Malaysia, by a British airman. The similarity of the object photographed at least 500 years after this hematite discoid was made, is very striking, to put it conservatively..Note 8 emitters on hematite discoid and on disc in photo (one emitter is dark due to sequence of firing).
The latest hematite discoid ("Salt River" type) added to the Stanford collection has the exact almost lead-like appearance of the seemingly 'hybrid' material of most types of 'shuttle craft' when not obscured by plasma and/or an anomalous light-absorbing phenomenon. The cavities in this discoid are where less durable forms of hematite and hydrated iron oxide (limonite) leached out by acetic ground water during hundreds of years underground.
BELOW: Evidence suggesting that humanoids and/of humans went into and came from disc-like objects depicted 1,000 to 1,750 years ago in the earlier Fort Ancient culture of Ohio? (Ray Stanford collection)
Ray says, "If you allege that those don't represent anomalous aerial objects, you'd better offer a more reasonable explanation. The above disc (with images of ladders) cannot be interpreted as representations of ladders going in or out of a kiva. Archaeological evidences of the Fort Ancient culture and the succeeding Mississippian culture show no evidence of kivas."
He will also describe additional evidences of knowledge of anomalous aerial objects, in shell and ceramic icons of the Missippian culture, which he has studied for 57 years. He has spent 22 of those years assembling his ancient discoid collection.
In a second session he will tell us about his UFO hard data project's discoveries that, applied with insight, enable the discerning to quickly distinguish fake 'UFO' photos, films, and videos, from the real things.
Please keep your questions on topic. We'll have Ray back to discuss his UFO films and analytical work on a later show...
A recent UFO Iconoclast(s) article claimed that there is no evidence whatsoever that ancient civilizations left any record or evidence of encounters with alien visitors or technology. The writer brashly declared, " My point is that human culture (art, writing, warfare et cetera) has been noted by the ancients right up to today, with no ubiquitous [huh?] insertion of UFOs or things that look like UFOs." Is the writer just ignorant of words he throws around, or just playing semantic games?
Any claim that no culture has left us evidence of "things that look like UFOs", is demonstrably FALSE, as shown in the following photos of ancient works of the Missippian culture of the American Indian, between 500 and 1,000 years ago, and the Fort Ancient culture of 1,000 to 1,750 years ago. As you will see, the objects speak for themselves rather loudly...
The following images are protected by copyright law, and unauthorized reproduction of them could lead to prosecution. Image-search technology may be used via the internet to detect any unauthorized uses of these images.
Below are two magnetic (thus with some magnetite) hematite discoids, from the old Piedrit collection, found in Hancock county, Illinois, late in 19th or early in 20th centuries, decades before the term 'flying saucer' ever came into usage. Although made between 1,000 and 500 years ago, they look strangely familiar. This type of Missippian discoid is evidently the earliest form of discoid from that culture, and they are the rarest of those finds. Perhaps they were 'magical' effigies of things seen in the sky (or closer?), intended for shamanic evocation of forces that might have been deemed associated with objects actually seen.
The largest of the three most "UFO"-like hematite (with magnetite) discoids in the Ray Stanford collection of more than 30 discoids of various materials and types, is shown in the next slide at upper-right (# 3). The 'Salt River' type discoids, which lack a dome on either side, are interpreted as the next discoid development phase, toward more practical-to-roll (on the ground) game pieces. *Map shows find locations.*
Twenty-six years before the term "flying saucer" or "flying disc" entered our vocabulary, the discoid seen below was found during tree-clearing of a bluff above the Illinois River, just outside Havana, Illinois. If we look closely, we see what may be residue of small mother-of-pearl shell discs that might have been placed in the peripheral holes around the flange and dome. If that was the situation, then the discoid would have looked even more like an anomalous aerial object (AAO) with plasma-generating 'emitters' arranged exactly as we see them sequentially generating plasma in the inserted black and white photo from January 2, 1979, taken in Penang, Malaysia, by a British airman. The similarity of the object photographed at least 500 years after this hematite discoid was made, is very striking, to put it conservatively..Note 8 emitters on hematite discoid and on disc in photo (one emitter is dark due to sequence of firing).
The latest hematite discoid ("Salt River" type) added to the Stanford collection has the exact almost lead-like appearance of the seemingly 'hybrid' material of most types of 'shuttle craft' when not obscured by plasma and/or an anomalous light-absorbing phenomenon. The cavities in this discoid are where less durable forms of hematite and hydrated iron oxide (limonite) leached out by acetic ground water during hundreds of years underground.
BELOW: Evidence suggesting that humanoids and/of humans went into and came from disc-like objects depicted 1,000 to 1,750 years ago in the earlier Fort Ancient culture of Ohio? (Ray Stanford collection)
Ray says, "If you allege that those don't represent anomalous aerial objects, you'd better offer a more reasonable explanation. The above disc (with images of ladders) cannot be interpreted as representations of ladders going in or out of a kiva. Archaeological evidences of the Fort Ancient culture and the succeeding Mississippian culture show no evidence of kivas."
He will also describe additional evidences of knowledge of anomalous aerial objects, in shell and ceramic icons of the Missippian culture, which he has studied for 57 years. He has spent 22 of those years assembling his ancient discoid collection.
In a second session he will tell us about his UFO hard data project's discoveries that, applied with insight, enable the discerning to quickly distinguish fake 'UFO' photos, films, and videos, from the real things.
Please keep your questions on topic. We'll have Ray back to discuss his UFO films and analytical work on a later show...
