Richard Hawkins
Paranormal Adept
It doesn't stop there he has on many an occasion caused injuries or death and violence through his words.
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Politics & The CIC/Prez
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Randall
J. Randall Murphy
Obviously neither of you read the stories or watched the documentary because you responded in less time than it takes to do so. So if your minds are already made-up, then what point is there in watching on-scene footage to the contrary? What point is providing facts to the contrary? Same goes for the injuries and deaths caused by the vax mandates and restrictions that BOTH presidents are part of — hence why I like Biden even less after he vowed not to impose them — but did anyway.
What documentary? The one that Tucker Carlson used cherry-picked videos to claim that what happened didn't happen?
Listen, the insurrection was caught on live TV when it occurred. There is no doubt what occurred.
Many police were injured, some died partly of aftereffects despite what you fake media claims.
The January 6th Committee, consisting of two conservative Republicans along with Democrats presented videos and testimony. There is no evidence whatever that any of their material was false or misleading.
Listen, the insurrection was caught on live TV when it occurred. There is no doubt what occurred.
Many police were injured, some died partly of aftereffects despite what you fake media claims.
The January 6th Committee, consisting of two conservative Republicans along with Democrats presented videos and testimony. There is no evidence whatever that any of their material was false or misleading.
Richard Hawkins
Paranormal Adept
Randall I will make it very clear I have no desire in watching or listening to anything that justifies Trump.
If the American people are stupid enough to vote for this monster again then Europe should tell America to get it's bases and it's military personnel of our soil and never come back.
Randall
J. Randall Murphy
See the link in the post.
I've seen that one, that's interesting, but not the one I'm referring to.There is a Tucker Carlson clip in it though — which of course to you means it must be faked.
Nobody is saying there wasn't a protest that got out of hand — "Insurrection" is hyperbole
Again, Look at the video of the police beating a protester and of the police officer shooting Ashli dead — It's sickening. The documentary I posted makes the case that the reason violence broke-out between protesters and police was because the police started it by preventing protesters from saving a fallen woman who later died.
There's plenty of evidence that some news reports were faulty and misleading — whether that's the "evidence" your talking about is another matter. We've all seen the MSM version. Like I said — look at the OTHER side of the story.
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Cherry picked. Tens of thousands of feed, but there was enough there to show what really happened. Carlson has already admitted in the items revealed by the Dominion lawsuit what he really thinks. He lied to appease the MAGA masses and keep ratings and ad dollars coming in. He hates Trump. That's what HE said.
There is no other side of the story here. The videos in context demonstrate what happened. Trump dispatched the mob. Some said "hang Mike Pence." What does it take you to see reality?
Randall
J. Randall Murphy
BOTH sides cherry pick — that doesn't make them false. That's why to get a balanced perspective a person needs to consider BOTH sides, and not simply write-off the evidence that doesn't suit one's own bias. At least I'm capable of doing that ( despite not liking Trump ).
Claiming the insurrection wasn't real is not cherry picking. It is lying.
You might as well say the Vietnam War didn't happen.
You might as well say the Vietnam War didn't happen.
Richard Hawkins
Paranormal Adept
Don't talk nonsense the white extreme right wing is the very people Trump panders to.
Randall
J. Randall Murphy
BOTH sides pander to their "extremists" — Neither side has an exclusive claim to truth.
Randall
J. Randall Murphy
Comparing the Jan 06 protest to the Vietnam war is just adding to the hyperbole.
The "both sides do it" doesn't work here. You are making an argument about philosophy. I'm explaining to you something about outright lying.
Randall
J. Randall Murphy
You're the last person who needs to explain to me about outright lying when you've censored out posts of mine containing truths that you don't like.
Richard Hawkins
Paranormal Adept
I think you make a fair point with which I agree, however we are not talking about either side but a sub sect within one party that prays on people's fear's and incites violence.
Trump and people like Bannon,Giuliani, are the equivalent of Hitler and the Nazis.
Richard Hawkins
Paranormal Adept
I don't think he was comparing the two Randall I think he was probably pointing out that it's impossible to deny that it was Trump who incited the violence.
It would be exactly like someone denying the Holocaust.
Oh sorry that's exactly what Trump supporters do.
Richard Hawkins
Paranormal Adept
Just watching the problem with Jon Stewart on apple TV plus.
If you ever wanted to see what the Republican party has become please watch.
If you ever wanted to see what the Republican party has become please watch.
Randall
J. Randall Murphy
Here's another "Other Side of The Story" piece
After reviewing 7000 hours of January 6th videos, citizen investigator Gary McBride is calling into question the death of Trump supporter Rosanne Boyland. She appears to be beaten by a police officer while lying motionless on the ground.
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Randall
J. Randall Murphy
To quote Gene: "You might as well say the Vietnam War didn't happen."
The person who was shot wa Ashli Babbitt.
You are ignoring the main issue, which is not the nonsense from the fringe sites that have zero credibility but the issue with the insurrection. Her death was investigated.
And the first House hearings about the so-called 'Twitter Files" demonstrated that the only one in power asserting pressure was the Trump administration. The Biden campaign asked about revealing pictures of Hunter Biden to be taken down in the interests of decency.
There are something like 45,000 hours of videos. From those, you can always cherry pick a few.
You are ignoring the main issue, which is not the nonsense from the fringe sites that have zero credibility but the issue with the insurrection. Her death was investigated.
And the first House hearings about the so-called 'Twitter Files" demonstrated that the only one in power asserting pressure was the Trump administration. The Biden campaign asked about revealing pictures of Hunter Biden to be taken down in the interests of decency.
There are something like 45,000 hours of videos. From those, you can always cherry pick a few.