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Oct 5 08 - Hilly Rose and two Angry Humanoids


Gareth

Nothin' to see here
Interesting episode this week.

What I took from the Hilly Rose segment: "Maybe I should read at least one Adamski book".

What I took from the second segment: Paranoia baby.

But seriously, I appreciated the current affairs discussion in light of recent events. I dont have a problem with it and I hope no one cries too much, although Im sure they will.
 
Interesting episode this week.

What I took from the Hilly Rose segment: "Maybe I should read at least one Adamski book".

What I took from the second segment: Paranoia baby.

But seriously, I appreciated the current affairs discussion in light of recent events. I dont have a problem with it and I hope no one cries too much, although Im sure they will.

Ufology and politics are human issues.I cant understand why people would give out about such issues.

Is there minds only one dimensional? This a unique situation we have today, it is gone beyond politics at this stage, it is almost like a conspiracy?
 
I thought it was refreshing that Hilly Rose actually named names when asked about who he wanted to end the interview after listening to the guest for about 5 minutes.

It was also very strange that he has never met or talked to Art Bell.

The second part I thought was more interesting and I am gland that this issue was talked about. Is David paranoid or just more informed? I would say the latter but I hope I am wrong.
 
I don't think David is paranoid. I've been listening to his political views for a bit now and took note to which way he was leaning. I believe he has made a breakthrough in what exactly is going down in the U.S.A. We're getting royaly ripped off by the banking elite.

If you guys want the straight dope on what's going on in this country check out
Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
 
Interesting episode this week.

What I took from the second segment: Paranoia baby.

You are clueless. If - by this point - you still don't think that something even remotely conspiratorial is going on, you're a lost puppy.

As I write this the Dow is down, under 10K, 533 points, a 5 year low - and why? Because the American government has just become socialist - that thing that Americans are supposed to hate with every ounce of their being.

But it's a special socialism. It's a socialism reserved for the rich. The war against Hitler, the cold war against the Soviet empire - trillions of dollars spent to protect the U.S. from the threat of communism. And now the U.S. is just steps away from becoming a totalitarian dictatorship. But where is the public's attention? Well, the World Series is on. Heroes is a great show. You still have a job. For now. Just drink the kool aid. You'll be fine.

They want you to think that everything is normal, but there are a lot of deceptive things going on, and this is NOTHING NEW. For those who want to actually learn something, like WHEN AND WHERE THIS THING REALLY STARTED, listen to this lecture recorded in 1998. LISTEN TO ALL OF IT.

"These things are not, and yet appear to be."

Welcome to the Jekyll Island Club...

The Creature from Jekyll Island - A Second Look at the Federal Reserve by G Edward Griffin
 
I dug the Hilly Rose interview he had some cool stories, particularly the one about the psychic. The DMT stuff was cool, I know BrandonD has discussed his DMT experience on this board a lot as well.

I also really enjoyed hearing the political stuff. I think after listening to Gene and Dave for a while they have gained my trust, so I am willing to take their opinions on any conspiracy stuff seriously and I enjoyed this talk. I think it would be cool to have an 'Angry Human' section on this board to both discuss David's show and the latest political happenings of a conspiratorial nature :)

On one hand I don't give neocons that much credit to have formulated some completely cohesive plan with a detailed end game on the scale of completely changing the entire planet in a relatively short period of time. But.......... I do believe they are certainly trying and that rich people at the top in any age of history in any country in any government tend to do what they can to take power and remain in power while reinforcing their own value system on everyone. It's the same old song and dance, but on a much larger scale given the technology and interconnectedness of our world today.

I think in this most recent bust, human greed and short sightedness combined with arrogant bankers and guillable citizens led to the perfect storm. It's possible this bust was carefully orchestrated, but I think it's more likely a bunch of prep school good old boys were incapable of doing their job and actually didn't have that much incentive to do their job. Strangely it's probably good for the long run that this happened, but try telling that to my widowed mom who is losing all of her retirement. I think humans are largely selfish and shortsighted and having regulation in certain areas that can massively effect society and our long term survival is important.

Indeed the treasury secretary sounds like he has a massive all time high conflict of interest and this highly suspicious on a massive level, as does GW and his entire posse and i do think they have completely manipulated the country to suit their own agenda to a large massive degree (Iraq).

But I don't find this completely surprising at this point and I don't think they have the planning ability to 100% force David's suggested endgame despite their obvious plan to go into iraq, unless they have some type of technology or foresight that is of a hyper advanced knowledge.

I think if GW and his ilk completely crash the economy and cash their check and try and slip out into the night, they better find a cave next to Bin Laden or I'd like to think we will all be rounding up our posse and finally the Second Amendment will come in handy :)

FYI, I wish the paracast would get picked up by Sattelite radio and become a daily show, I'm already having withdrawl.......
 
I should add, I do believe that UFO stuff is being covered up by some black budget group and strangely, I think Greer's model in describing this group makes a lot of sense despite his beautiful baby alien syndrome (BBAS).

How this UFO group in the know is tied into this apparent neocon cream dream of taking over the middle east and starting wars to enforce a 1984 agenda etc..... i don't know, but I certainly would like to know :)

Next time you interview Greer you should ask him point blank, "You always say you are just a country doctor. However, in the dictionary under 'country doctor' there is absolutely no mention regarding being a galactic diplomat. So which is it dude. Are you are a country doctor or a galactic diplomat?" To which Greer would say, "I am both". And then you say, "How convenient!!!" and then we all do double high fives except for Billy Meir because he only has one arm. Poor guy. Just another victim of being a country doctor......... I mean farmer.
 
I should add, I do believe that UFO stuff is being covered up by some black budget group and strangely, I think Greer's model in describing this group makes a lot of sense despite his beautiful baby alien syndrome (BBAS).

How this UFO group in the know is tied into this apparent neocon cream dream of taking over the middle east and starting wars to enforce a 1984 agenda etc..... i don't know, but I certainly would like to know :)

Next time you interview Greer you should ask him point blank, "You always say you are just a country doctor. However, in the dictionary under 'country doctor' there is absolutely no mention regarding being a galactic diplomat. So which is it dude. Are you are a country doctor or a galactic diplomat?" To which Greer would say, "I am both". And then you say, "How convenient!!!" and then we all do double high fives except for Billy Meir because he only has one arm. Poor guy. Just another victim of being a country doctor......... I mean farmer.
The possibility of having Greer on again is at the lower end of zero minus zero. :D
 
The possibility of having Greer on again is at the lower end of zero minus zero. :D

So your telling me there' s a chance :)

Yeah, I 100% agree, not worth wasting another second on him unless it's done in a WWF sideshow kind of manner that is meant purely for entertainment. Plus, let's be honest, the guy is out of material, he's been doing the same routine for 10 years!
 
Good, solid episode. My brain feels restored after the battering it took last week.

Paranoia? That's a song isn't it? Appropriate too... how's that line go? "If paranoia's just a consequence of knowing the truth, then what I feel could be called paranoia!" Well, in-so-much-as we can identify "truth" at all...

It was interesting hearing the stuff David brought up that nobody noticed while all the hoopla is focussed on the big bailout (Quadrillion?! Yikes). Something else nobody seemed to notice while all this is going on: apparently an armed forces bill almost as big as the bailout ($680 billion or so) when straight on through without an eyelid batted.

Ya got that? $680 billion for the military- no problem. $700 billion for the stability of the country the military are supposed to defend- highly questionable, over-inflated, utterly socialist, boderline communism.

Now, if you were of a paranoid mindset you might be asking yourself "Why is the government making sure that the military is so throroughly funded at a time when the country itself teeters on collapse?" Why indeed.
 
The hits, they keep a'coming...

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Good, solid episode. My brain feels restored after the battering it took last week.

Paranoia? That's a song isn't it? Appropriate too... how's that line go? "If paranoia's just a consequence of knowing the truth, then what I feel could be called paranoia!" Well, in-so-much-as we can identify "truth" at all...

It was interesting hearing the stuff David brought up that nobody noticed while all the hoopla is focussed on the big bailout (Quadrillion?! Yikes). Something else nobody seemed to notice while all this is going on: apparently an armed forces bill almost as big as the bailout ($680 billion or so) when straight on through without an eyelid batted.

Ya got that? $680 billion for the military- no problem. $700 billion for the stability of the country the military are supposed to defend- highly questionable, over-inflated, utterly socialist, boderline communism.

Now, if you were of a paranoid mindset you might be asking yourself "Why is the government making sure that the military is so throroughly funded at a time when the country itself teeters on collapse?" Why indeed.

I hear there's been a trillion dollar defeshit. Not like a trillion more will matter to certain people in power. They spend imaginary money. If only people stopped selling or trading for it. This loaner based money is central to the bail out problem I gather. It's finally catching up. Part of me is glad. Hope people wake up about past economic systems and stand for it no more. A change has been long over due. Hell, this is obvious to me, and I know next to nothing about the economy. Well, then again, since I know little about it, maybe I'm wrong about the above and only think I'm correct.
 
Regarding the DMT stuff, interesting how some musicians best music is that period when they were strung out on drugs........ which goes in line with the Silicon Valley peeps using drugs to help them come up with ideas to solve problems.

I wouldn't ever try drugs like that since I am that guy that would never come back :) but..... in my dreams I have many many times heard entirely original songs that I've never heard before or since. I mean entire songs (guitar, vocals, drums, etc.... chorus, verse, bridge, into etc...) like straight from a radio station in another dimension. I've also seen kind of like TV shows or comedy sketches that I've never seen or heard before or since in my dreams, kind of like the entertainment for the night while I"m sleeping. My wife says I laugh in my sleep all the time and it's usually some funny scenario I must have created which is acting itself out.

If that is the effect of DMT, I feel it opens up the equivalent of the holladeck on start treck when your subconscious can tap into creative energy (God?) that allows you to both share and create things just with your mind. Kind of like the psychic internet or something where you can create and share stuff and feed off of other things etc....

FYI, Noel Gallagaer (Oasis) recently said in an interview that all of his best songs were written while he was on drugs and it pisses him off! :)
 
The demonisation of drugs and word 'drug' in western culture is not based on reality IMO.

Hunter S Thompson used to say that without the drugs he has the brain of an accountant. Scary stuff.
 
Hilly Rose was new to me and seemed like a really good guy. Of course, I thought I would check out his radio programme with Fate Magazine. Turns out of course its a strictly members only programme. Oh well thats no fun then. Still it was nice to hear he had his head screwed on the right way.

As for David's Chinese and Paulson thing ... well yeasss ... I think the humble US citizen should really be looking at all those guys with extreme cosy relationships with that little old stolen piece of land known as Israel, really.

The names involved are numerous to be sure: Michael Chertoff (dual US/Israeli citizen), Dav Zakheim, Richard Pearle (stole stuff for Israel and then got off), Richard Armitage, Rahm Emmanuel, all those televangelists who shepherd their flock into cages marked "Israel first, US second", the horrific broadcasters like Rush Limbaugh, the "Neocons" (see some of the names mentioned already), PNAC (see Neocons/Israel) ... William Kristol ... the ADL ...

I've harped on about this in the past in these forums to no avail ... trying to steer people from fakes like Alex Jones and onto people like Michael Collins Piper ... but I have found out that you cannot tell people the truth, they have to be open to change before they can face it.

Still goodish programme ... better than having Paella Harris on anyway ... oh yeah that wouldn't be difficult :D
 
Oh and Daryl Bradford Smith at http://www.iamthewitness.com ... has been talking about the derivatives stuff, and all the financial stuff that just flies over my head for sometime.

Check out his files with Mohammed Rafeeq. These guys know their stuff and were hitting it right on the button countless months ago. Don't get put off by the people who claim that DBS is anti-semitic and all that. Total bull. He's got some very interesting information, and you may just get some sort of idea how bad the recent financial problems really are.
 
I really enjoyed this episode. I thought Hilly Rose was a good guest. His story about Shirley MaClaine fits everything else I ever read about her. His story about his daughter and son was pretty interesting. He seems like a pleasant older gentleman.

This episode really wasn’t about Hilly Rose though. While the show is called “The Paracast” I applaud both Gene and David for going into issues that are NEEDED to be talked about.

If people dislike that Gene and David want to talk about politics (or whatever they want) then they can just deal with it or not listen. It’s their show on their terms. If they choose to talk about how to cook fish then it’s their choice.

Quite frankly the issues that are going on right now trumps any others. I respect the show for addressing important topics at a time where many people are ignorant or apathetic towards the current financial crisis the entire world is going though. I like listening to and learning about the paranormal, but we are in global crisis that not only has a direct effect on the pockets of everyone on earth, but also creates in environment for conflicts not only among Americans inside our own country, but could launch wars because of the impact the failure of the US dollar could have on major powers in the world.

This is extremely serious and no David is not paranoid. He is on point and if you hear concern in his voice it is because there is a legitimate reason to be concerned. It’s beyond any of us pitching our various opinions on politics, I know I am not shy to share mine on this forum, but to address a CRISIS and the ramifications of this global crisis.

I created a thread here a few days ago about derivatives and credit default swaps that I encourage others to look at. It’s not deep and in-depth to confuse people but to at least give basic information in an lehmans way to these aspects of the financial markets. It’s something people really need to have a better understanding about.

I know I have been trying to alert and inform people on this current situation for years. It creeps me out how close to what is going on my analysis is to what the current situation is. It caused me great anxiety and stress. I do not enjoy “being right” about this as not only myself, but everyone I care about is directly affected by this. It makes me physically ill.

We can’t ignore it though. It’s past that point. So I encourage more people to keep on learning and keep on spreading that to others. It’s critical that you all do that now. Please be smart with your money. If you have any extra cash right now I would strongly suggest buying gold, silver, and Swiss Francs government bonds.

Good job with this show guys and please keep it up.
 
Anyone hear the Terrance McKenna lecture on UFO's. I heard it on the psychedelic salon and it was interesting to me to hear what he thought. Wild concept, aliens having to do with these psychedelic drugs as some form of communication or something. Anyone else familiar with him?

enjoyed the show

glenn
 
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