The problem is that there is no proof! Just lazars word. As for. Knapps skills I won't question that but.. I seem to recall a 2nd reported taken in by a hoax...his name was dan rather....
I understand your frustration but the
whole field lacks any such proof.
Things about the Lazar case that have always been in the 'I believe him' camp, for me at least, are:
1. The Los Alamos phone book. Robert Lazar is not a common name and to think it was some kind of complete mistake-coincidence is too far a stretch for me. Add to that the fact that there were strong denials until Los Alamos caved and put it all on the head-hunting agency.
2. As George said and bear in mind we are talking 1989, who else knew, or was predicting test flights of something over S-4 on these Wednesday nights?
3. It cannot be understated that George had bona-fide Area 51 (ex) employees grill Bob, and they were sly enough to ask questions that people would be unlikely to be able to answer today, never mind back then - remember that we know pretty much
anything about Area 51/S4 is
because of George's stories. Was it not George that basically broke the Area 51-UFO story in the first place? It's not like all this was in the public domain already for Bob Lazar to use to blag it all. Back then, who else would have known about the placement of the cafeteria , the method of payment, the means of transport around the base, the off-limits areas etc. I'm not saying that it was impossible that Bob could have learned all that from someone, but that would involve basically
another whistleblower would it not?
The chronological order of any little tidbit of info compared to any other source is of paramount importance when weighing up if the info was coming first-hand (from Bob) or second-hand from someone else.
4. George himself attests to the fact that Bob was being 'officially' harassed - phone taps, break-in's, being followed etc. Who would be doing that if Bob was just some crank making it all up?
5. Depending on any one single person's view of polygraphy, passing one test could show someone was telling their subjective truth. Some argue that these tests can be faked but the general consensus is that with a skilled, experienced operator, these tests are extremely difficult to completely cheat. Now, George said that Bob passed
4 tests.
One has to wonder what people would say if Bob failed 4 tests. Then, no doubt the tests would have been viewed as 100% reliable!
Polygraphs measure changes in the body that are unconsciously happening. I mean, can anyone reading this change their 'galvanic skin response' to order? I can't.
6. This isn't actually related to evidence for/against Bob Lazar as such, but from a 'slow disclosure' or disinfo point of view, it makes sense that someone like Bob was allowed to work at S-4, for a number of reasons. It was mentioned in the show about how strange it was that Bob was
instructed to read these briefing documents - documents about alien reality etc - before his final security clearance came through. Now, I personally have gone through a Top Secret security clearance procedure and 2 things spring to mind; it takes months, sometimes even more than a year to complete, depending on the urgency.
But here is the bit that makes no sense, apart from Bob being used as an unwitting disinfo agent - if Bob was there to back-engineer a saucer, then pretty much
nothing in those briefing docs would
ever have been shown to him. It goes completely against the need-to-know principle and
if there ever was, in the history of the US govt, a time to use that principle, it would have been with the work going on at S4.
Being told about 'soul vessels' and what planet the aliens were from etc is just not necessary to know (presumably) to do the back-engineering work. It
only makes sense that Bob was shown such documents, in the hope that he spilled the beans.
Also, by showing Bob such info, it was a perfect seed planted so that it would be plainly obvious if he told anyone. I mean to say that if Bob was the only person shown those documents (cos they were B.S no doubt) then if any of the info leaked out (like through John Lear), then those in charge of S-4 would know for a fact, the info had leaked through Bob Lazar.
Perhaps, like the UFO topic itself, no one piece of the puzzle alone can convince anyone of anything but taken collectively, as a whole, the weight of all the 'evidence', circumstantial or otherwise, put together tells me that there is a good chance Bob was at S-4, even if he was only there to be used and he never really, truly worked on a bona-fide ET craft. I cannot remember if Bob stated that it was the very model he was back-engineering that he saw take a short test flight outside the hangar. More people than Bob or John Lear have seen what seem to be non-terrestrial craft performing moves that
our aircraft are incapable of, in the vicinity of S-4 so one can take Bob Lazar completely out of the equation and still state that there were exotic craft of some kind being flown from there. Add to that though that Bob was able to predict
exactly where and when these test flights would be taking place and to me at least, it seems on the face of it that Bob Lazar must have had some degree of inside info.
It cannot be understated how big that last point is. Remember, UFO's aside, we are talking about the place where the U2 and stealth craft were developed. It is
most secret and I can promise you that the military authorities would be
most interested to know how anyone from the 'outside' would know the test flight schedule for
absolutely any aircraft flown from Area 51, never mind flying saucers. It's the kind of thing you could be charged with espionage for. It is utterly
huge that anyone not working there should know any detail whatsoever about test-flight schedules. Things like that leaking into the public domain are the absolute last thing the security apparatus there would want happening. It would be an open invite to the USA's enemies to come and spy on these most secret technologies. It's the kind of thing that heads roll over. If Bob did not work there and found out some other way, I can assure you there would have been a major investigation into how any member of the public managed to find out such information - I mean they filmed it! It must have been deliberate that Bob was allowed to know, and if not, the poorest of security in the most secure of facilities? Doesn't make sense from a military security perspective.
My 2 cents!
. If Knapp's reason was genuine it is highly questionable. It seems the damage has already been done. I doubt another documentary would draw thousands more unwashed masses to the ranch.
