Dear Diary - Fauci et al

[Burnt State]

Well folks: This interview with World Class Physician Peter McCullough explains it all in easy to understand language. If you want to argue against him in an honest intellectual debate — no smear campaign quotes with propagandistic ad hominems ( as above ) — go for it. You'll be up against a person whose office is wallpapered with credentials. Ignoring him is only pleading wilful ignorance. No matter how fast asleep you've been, or how indoctrinated into the vax cult you are, it's time to wake-up, break free, and upgrade your thinking.

Dr. Peter McCullough | This Past Weekend w/ Theo Von

You mean the guy who lied about his credentials in interviews over and over again and is now being sued for it? This is also someone who has discredited himself because of his unscientific beliefs, which have been debunked repeatedly, and has had various certifications removed from him by medical and scientific bodies he was formerly affiliated with.

However, he might have good reason to promote anti vaxxer beliefs because he is part of the Wellness company cabal (a major source of anti vaxxer propaganda and misinformation, fake science and downright lies) that sells nutritional supplements and advocates for those as opposed to vaccination. Sounds like he's more about being a profiteer after turning his back on real medical science....so yeah, there's a lot to argue with here I'm afraid. Do you have anyone who promotes anti-vaccination claims that doesn't have this kind of a background or isn't part of the Wellness cabal?

 

[Randall]

You mean the guy who lied about his credentials in interviews over and over again and is now being sued for it? This is also someone who has discredited himself because of his unscientific beliefs, which have been debunked repeatedly, and has had various certifications removed from him by medical and scientific bodies he was formerly affiliated with.

However, he might have good reason to promote anti vaxxer beliefs because he is part of the Wellness company cabal (a major source of anti vaxxer propaganda and misinformation, fake science and downright lies) that sells nutritional supplements and advocates for those as opposed to vaccination. Sounds like he's more about being a profiteer after turning his back on real medical science....so yeah, there's a lot to argue with here I'm afraid. Do you have anyone who promotes anti-vaccination claims that doesn't have this kind of a background or isn't part of the Wellness cabal?

Using smear campaingers instead of addressing the evidence is not valid counterpoint.

Besides that:

McCullough never "lied". His professional credentials are valid. He simply used his past experience as part of his background — to which Baylor objected and sued ( and lost ). The case was ultimately dismissed with prejudice in January 2023.

Surely you can do better than that?

Also, the "Wellness Company" Editorial Team is supported by registered nurses, epidemiology specialists, and experienced medical researchers. who draw on validated, evidence-based sources to ensure accuracy, making it a source for high quality products and information. It is part of the Health Freedom Movement ( not a "cabal" ). They might even be able to help @Gene Steinberg with some of his ailments.

If there's any "cabal", it's big pharma — known to collude with each other, the MSM, educational institutions, regulators, and government officials across the globe, in pushing their toxic poison on everyone — by mandate if necessary !

So thanks for confirming which side of those barricades you're on. At first I just thought you'd been innocently influenced by the MSM propganda, and just needed to dig a little deeper. Now it's clear you're just with "them" — and to think that Gene thinks I've been swayed to the "dark side"

 

[Tyger]

Senator Rand Paul says he is doing everything possible to make sure another Fauci figure can never take over America’s public health system again.

“I am doing everything possible to make sure that there is justice. I also want to do everything possible to make sure that the truth gets out so this never happens again and we don’t let somebody with an inflated notion of themselves who calls themselves ‘the science’ take over our country, force vaccinations upon us, and force upon us these rules that really were not based in science. I want to make sure that none of that ever happens again.”

 

[Burnt State]

Using smear campaingers instead of addressing the evidence is not valid counterpoint.

Besides that:

McCullough never "lied". His professional credentials are valid. He simply used his past experience as part of his background — to which Baylor objected and sued ( and lost ). The case was ultimately dismissed with prejudice in January 2023.

Surely you can do better than that?

Also, the "Wellness Company" Editorial Team is supported by registered nurses, epidemiology specialists, and experienced medical researchers. who draw on validated, evidence-based sources to ensure accuracy, making it a source for high quality products and information. It is part of the Health Freedom Movement ( not a "cabal" ). They might even be able to help @Gene Steinberg with some of his ailments.

If there's any "cabal", it's big pharma — known to collude with each other, the MSM, educational institutions, regulators, and government officials across the globe, in pushing their toxic poison on everyone — by mandate if necessary !

So thanks for confirming which side of those barricades you're on. At first I just thought you'd been innocently influenced by the MSM propganda, and just needed to dig a little deeper. Now it's clear you're just with "them" — and to think that Gene thinks I've been swayed to the "dark side"

You still don't see an ongoing theme in this debate do you? So many various institutions and recognized bodies stand against the anti-vaxxer movement. So many point out issues and problems and a lack of proper medical evidence or scientific articles confirming your points except from the Wellness company - who are busy selling supplements to replace vaccinations. You don't see a problem here?

"The American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) revoked Peter McCullough's board certifications in internal medicine and cardiovascular disease. Academic and medical institutions including Baylor Scott & White Health, Texas A&M University, and the University of North Texas Health Science Center also severed ties or removed him from their faculties following his controversial public statements on COVID-19."

Are all these independent bodies somehow mysteriously involved in the scam? Have they all been bought out by big pharma? Is the media and all governments in the world also all part of the scam? At what point do you recognize that the overwhelming evidence speaks for the legitimacy of vaccines and that all the dangers, risks, disease and even long term heart diseases, including myocarditis zooms to 7 - 20 times higher for those who got COVID vs. those who were vaccinated.

Can the entire planet with all these different medical institutions and universities who confirm the legitimacy of vaccines all be in on the supposed greatest scam in history?

Every time I try to research one of your claims I run into discredited scientists, people who aren't scientists, the Wellness company and the same wacko politicians who want to secure votes by letting their constituents chose the right to be as sick as they want and run around to bars and restaurants unmasked and unvaccinated to infect the masses.

All the claims of myocarditis and young people dying form COVID shots are so minor and rare that its not even worth talking about up against the significantly more increased risks and confirmations of disease for these same inflictions from catching COVID. I'm not trying to belittle or deny families who have lost loved ones or received medical complications because of a vaccination, but these are very rare outliers.

Surely, if there was any validity to these claims then a government as conservative and off base when it comes to health as America is would simply eliminate flu shots, and vaccinations for their soldiers or at least make them optional as opposed to making them mandatory. Are they also in on the scam or is it that they simply believe in science. I've yet to see any corroborating proofs for any claims made against vaccines by anyone or any article you've put forth.

Measles, polio, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), diphtheria, hepatitis B, the flu, tetanus and shingles are all preventable thanks to life saving vaccines. That is a historical medical fact not useless wallpaper that Peter Mcullough can no longer display on his walls.

 

[Red]

Measles, polio, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), diphtheria, hepatitis B, the flu, tetanus and shingles are all preventable thanks to life saving vaccines. That is a historical medical fact not useless wallpaper that Peter Mcullough can no longer display on his walls.

Burnt State, you are far braver and more patient person than I. I'll just pop in to note that I've got family members whose mother INSISTED they get vaccinated when the vaccines first became widely available. Their mother knew a time in which children and babies died. These same family members are now kicking ass in their '80s. I would encourage everyone to start digging back into their family history because a lot of children died of diseases that can now be prevented through vaccine, modern plumbing, or treated with antibiotics. Also, I had a family member who died of tetanus infection. It's a painful way to die and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Smallpox has been eradicated. And yet Randall has tried to convince me over and over that somehow it's my logic that is faulty. I've been really firm with Randall in the past about how I'm not even interested in his anti-vaxxer stance. Despite this, he would repeatedly try to change my mind with his woo-woo antivaxxer crap, and yet, I'm still the one who is deluded in my thinking.

 

[Randall]

You still don't see an ongoing theme in this debate do you? So many various institutions and recognized bodies stand against the anti-vaxxer movement.

And those "institutions" and "bodies" have been captured by big pharma.
Besides that, "bodies" and "institutions" aren't arbiters of truth or justice or freedom.
You appear to have your priorities mixed-up.

So many point out issues and problems and a lack of proper medical evidence or scientific articles confirming your points except from the Wellness company - who are busy selling supplements to replace vaccinations. You don't see a problem here?

And many onf those articles are garbage and/or have been retracted.
The medical industrial cartel has been responsible for more fraudulent papers than any other scientific endeavor.
Now even the journals themselves can't be trusted.
That's why so many physicians who have been attacked by the system have banded together to oppose the corrupted bureaucies.

"The American Board of Internal Medicine (ABIM) revoked Peter McCullough's board certifications in internal medicine and cardiovascular disease. Academic and medical institutions including Baylor Scott & White Health, Texas A&M University, and the University of North Texas Health Science Center also severed ties or removed him from their faculties following his controversial public statements on COVID-19."

So what? The attacks on McCullogh and other medical professionals fighting for truth and freedom against a corupt bureaucracy are the ones I'm rooting for — too bad you haven't seen the light. Besides — As I already said, McCullough won against the smear campaign against him — yet you still parrot the loser. Why?

Are all these independent bodies somehow mysteriously involved in the scam? Have they all been bought out by big pharma?

Mostly — yes. Big pharma influence and conflict of interest is well documented — but you'd actually have to read the exposés like the free one I posted ( and several others ) to understand it. Of course you already know this — right? So why this discussion?

Is the media and all governments in the world also all part of the scam?

In large part yes — as evidenced by their cooperation on invoking vaxports to track and deprive unvaxxed of their right to freely travel. Governments are definitely in collusion with big pharma ( and the MSM ), paying billions ( trillions worldwide ) to them. But again — you already know that too. So why try to deny it?

At what point do you recognize that the overwhelming evidence speaks for the legitimacy of vaccines and that all the dangers, risks, disease and even long term heart diseases, including myocarditis zooms to 7 - 20 times higher for those who got COVID vs. those who were vaccinated.

The stats have been self-servingly massaged in favor of efficacy — while the side effects have been self-servingly spun the other way. The "overwhelming evidence" clearly shows this ( as evidenced in previous posts including the ARR vs RRR video ).

Can the entire planet with all these different medical institutions and universities who confirm the legitimacy of vaccines all be in on the supposed greatest scam in history?

The entire planet isn't "in on it" — many of us saw the problems early on, and since then many have woken-up. You're either the exception, or perhaps invested in vax company shares — or just can't handle the truth because you're on booster 12 and are so invested in you're faith in vaccines that you're too biased to accept that vax injuries and deaths are real.

Every time I try to research one of your claims I run into discredited scientists, people who aren't scientists, the Wellness company and the same wacko politicians who want to secure votes by letting their constituents chose the right to be as sick as they want and run around to bars and restaurants unmasked and unvaccinated to infect the masses.

That is to be expected — you have to learn to fact check the fact checkers, learn some basic logical fallcies e.g. ad hominem, strawman, appeals to authority etc. Yes — there is a fringe element ( on both sides of the barricades ) that go too far with their claims. However, even they often have fair points. It's niot an easy task to sift through it all — but I've done a lot of sifting — and I know how to separate the signal from the noise.

All the claims of myocarditis and young people dying form COVID shots are so minor and rare that its not even worth talking about up against the significantly more increased risks and confirmations of disease for these same inflictions from catching COVID. I'm not trying to belittle or deny families who have lost loved ones or received medical complications because of a vaccination, but these are very rare outliers.

That's what those on the pro-vax side say — while smearing world call cardiologists like McCullough who say exactly the opposite — with evidence instead of name calling and dismissals. Actually have a look at his papers and work — watch some of his lectures and presentations — see for yourself instead of relying of character assinations.

Add to that the work or attourney Aaron Siri who has won many vaccine injury cases based on solid evidence.

Proving Your Vaccine Injury Case: Understanding the Burden of Proof - Siri & Glimstad LLP

Learn how to navigate the process of proving a vaccine injury and seek compensation effectively. Read our essential guide for practical steps and advice.

www.sirillp.com

Surely, if there was any validity to these claims then a government as conservative and off base when it comes to health as America is would simply eliminate flu shots, and vaccinations for their soldiers or at least make them optional as opposed to making them mandatory.

That would be the right thing to do.

Are they also in on the scam or is it that they simply believe in science.

A mix.

I've yet to see any corroborating proofs for any claims made against vaccines by anyone or any article you've put forth.

That amounts to wilful ignorance and denial.

Measles, polio, tetanus, pertussis (whooping cough), diphtheria, hepatitis B, the flu, tetanus and shingles are all preventable thanks to life saving vaccines. That is a historical medical fact not useless wallpaper that Peter Mcullough can no longer display on his walls.

Those examples are not as airtight as you claim. The polio vax, was introduced at the end of the polio wave, claimed success for having stopped it, and then killed a bunch of people, while today, the major cause of polio in Africa came from bad vaccines.

Vaccine-derived polio spreads in Africa after defeat of wild virus​

Vaccine-derived polio spreads in Africa after defeat of wild virus

Fresh cases of disease linked to oral vaccine seen in Sudan, following outbreak in Chad

www.theguardian.com

More polio cases now caused by vaccine than by wild virus​

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apnews.com

NOTE: It's interesting how the above article has been sanitized since I first came across it and the link to the original report is no longer available. This is a recurring theme as the PTB in the pharamaceutical industrial complex try to bury, memory hole, and cover-up their messes.

The Hidden History Of Polio, the Disease That Never Was​

The Hidden History Of Polio, the Disease That Never Was

Polio is a nickname for poliomyelitis, which means inflammation of the grey matter of the spinal cord. If you get a lesion on one section of your spinal cord, the corresponding part of your body

deeprootsathome.com

The Cutter Incident: How America's First Polio Vaccine Led to a Growing Vaccine Crisis​

In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.



NOTE: In addition to what has already been stated — the above graph doesn't take into account the change in definition of Polio, or the injuries and deaths caused by the polio vaccine, or the reasons for the dramatic decline in polio prior to the introduction of the vaccine.

 

[Randall]

Burnt State, you are far braver and more patient person than I. I'll just pop in to note that I've got family members whose mother INSISTED they get vaccinated when the vaccines first became widely available. Their mother knew a time in which children and babies died.

Now there's compelling evidence that SIDS ( Sudden Infant Death Syndrome ) is caused by infant vaccination.
Big pharma and its legal hounds are frantically trying to cover it up — like this:

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From the Abstract:

Additive or synergistic toxicity may occur following multivalent vaccination:

• Infant deaths post-vaccination are often misclassified as SIDS or suffocation in bed.
• Of all reported SIDS cases post-vaccination, 75 % occurred within 7 days (p < 0.00001).
• Inflammatory cytokines in the infant medulla act as neuromodulators causing prolonged apneas.
• Adjuvants that cross the BBB may induce fatal disorganization of respiratory control.

Of course it's only a "conspiracy theory" — The parents who watched their kids die don't count — right?

The Suppression Of Vaccine-Induced Infant Deaths (SIDS) By Public Health Agencies Across The World

The data that SIDS is caused by vaccines has been hiding in plain sight for decades yet, unsurprisingly, our criminal pharmaceutical-governmental public health complex has successfully suppressed it.

pierrekorymedicalmusings.com

These same family members are now kicking ass in their '80s. I would encourage everyone to start digging back into their family history because a lot of children died of diseases that can now be prevented through vaccine, modern plumbing, or treated with antibiotics. Also, I had a family member who died of tetanus infection. It's a painful way to die and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Smallpox has been eradicated.

There are other factors besides vaccines in play there. I'd include more details, but you don't seem to care about that.

And yet Randall has tried to convince me over and over that somehow it's my logic that is faulty. I've been really firm with Randall in the past about how I'm not even interested in his anti-vaxxer stance. Despite this, he would repeatedly try to change my mind with his woo-woo antivaxxer crap, and yet, I'm still the one who is deluded in my thinking.

Apart from the fact that using ad hominems like "wo-woo crap" isn't valid counterpoint, you also misunderstand my aim.

Let me put it this way — even if I'm 90% wrong about everything ( which is highly unlikely ), that's still enough injuries and deaths to warrant recalls and serious investigations rather than offhanded dismissal by you and the authorities.

My Actual Position

• My position is that the issue of efficacy is irrellevant to the cause of the Medical Freedom Movement.
• Even if a pharmaceutical is perfectly "safe & effective" — I advocate for your right ( everyone's right ) to say "No" without discrimination or consequences imposed by Governments or employers.
• For those who volunteer for treatment — I advocate for fully informed consent.

So please don't misrepresent my position. It is not "wo-woo". It's advocating for civil liberty. Those who voluntarily participate in pharma programs without any malice or discrimination against the unvaxxed are just fine with me — it's their choice.

Note: Just remember that being fully informed means looking deeply at the claims from both proponents and detractors of your own position. I have done that — in depth over the last six years. I also didn't start out this way. I was partly biased in the other direction — until I started digging — really digging — past the headlines and superficiality of the obvious MSM propaganda and "fact checkers".​

 

[Randall]

Real virus was not used in the Covid vaccine. So how could real virus be transmitted? Only the flu vaccine contains real virus. These anecdotal stories are suspicious. I'm a retired hospital chaplain who received all of the vaccines. No side effects. Stayed healthy throughout the pandemic.

A good question. The part you're referring to there where @Tyger mentions shedding in conjunction with the vaxxed getting sick with and/or spreading COVID are related in a different way than you've connected them — but the way it's worded, makes a misinterpretation understandable. Please allow me to clarify:

You are essentially correct that the most popular COVID vaccines didn't use the attenuated virus as the vaccine's antigen. Maybe some people did get COVID from the ones that did ( CoronaVac, BBIBP, Covaxin ) — but I don't know. I haven't looked into that.

The links between COVID vaccinations in general and increased incidents of COVID are in cases of Long Haul Covid, Vaccine Enhanced Dependency, and Immune System Fatigue. These claims are still hotly debated, but in a deep dive into the papers of researchers and experiences of patients, I found that like most of the debates around COVID, the claim that the vaccine isn't or cannot be responsible isn't as well substantiated as the theories that say it's possible ( if not probable ).

Here's an example: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41564-020-00789-5.pdf

Additionally, the COVID vax didn't keep people from being infected, and studies show that vaxxed people with a COVID infection, though sometimes less symptomatic, still carried viral loads, sometimes comparable to that of unvaxxed COVID subjects.

This is not surprising if you happened to catch the efficacy video I posted earlier .

Worse still — because the vaxxed were given a free pass to travel, work, etc, they actually became the Typhoid Marys of COVID — silently spreading it everyhere, while those with sympotms knew to stay home. Ironically, in contrast to the MSM propaganda, COVID became a "pandemic of the vaccinated".

Shedding is a whole other thing that has to do with the trillions of mRNA induced spike proteins "shedding" from the mRNA vaxxed.
I'll add my own firsthand experience to the list of annecdotes.

BTW: Medical science accepts annecdotes routinely as valid evidence e.g. How are you feeling? How bad is the pain? Did the treatment seem to help? — and the list goes on. In medical science, annecdotes are very important pieces of evidence — especially when there's a lot of them. In most cases they're not simply called "annecdotes" — they're called symptoms.

 

[Burnt State]

Burnt State, you are far braver and more patient person than I. I'll just pop in to note that I've got family members whose mother INSISTED they get vaccinated when the vaccines first became widely available. Their mother knew a time in which children and babies died. These same family members are now kicking ass in their '80s. I would encourage everyone to start digging back into their family history because a lot of children died of diseases that can now be prevented through vaccine, modern plumbing, or treated with antibiotics. Also, I had a family member who died of tetanus infection. It's a painful way to die and I wouldn't wish it on anyone. Smallpox has been eradicated. And yet Randall has tried to convince me over and over that somehow it's my logic that is faulty. I've been really firm with Randall in the past about how I'm not even interested in his anti-vaxxer stance. Despite this, he would repeatedly try to change my mind with his woo-woo antivaxxer crap, and yet, I'm still the one who is deluded in my thinking.

Thank you so much for being a voice of sanity in this discussion. I go bonkers over conspiracy theories that endanger the lives, freedoms and vitality of human beings. I find promoting this kind of ignorance to be despicable.

I forgot how exhausting it is to argue with believers of any religion, especially the anti-vaxxer cult. But I thought it was important at various points for readers of this forum to recognize that there is real science to counter all these bogus claims. You don't have to research too far to get to the truth of vaccines, medical history.and to see through the anti-vaxxer conspiracies.

That of course is one of the many signposts of a conspiracy, when those promoting it are among the few who apparently are in the know and have the real data and facts after digging down deep to uncover how big pharma has apparently been hoodwinking people and every single medical institution and doctor since 1796 when the first smallpox vaccine was created. That's right, there's 230 years of vaccines on planet earth and I am so thankful for medical science for keeping my children free from disease that could have killed them and specially my daughter's type 1 diabetes. Praise science!

 

[Red]

Thank you so much for being a voice of sanity in this discussion. I go bonkers over conspiracy theories that endanger the lives, freedoms and vitality of human beings. I find promoting this kind of ignorance to be despicable.

I forgot how exhausting it is to argue with believers of any religion, especially the anti-vaxxer cult. But I thought it was important at various points for readers of this forum to recognize that there is real science to counter all these bogus claims. You don't have to research too far to get to the truth of vaccines, medical history.and to see through the anti-vaxxer conspiracies.

That of course is one of the many signposts of a conspiracy, when those promoting it are among the few who apparently are in the know and have the real data and facts after digging down deep to uncover how big pharma has apparently been hoodwinking people and every single medical institution and doctor since 1796 when the first smallpox vaccine was created. That's right, there's 230 years of vaccines on planet earth and I am so thankful for medical science for keeping my children free from disease that could have killed them and specially my daughter's type 1 diabetes. Praise science!

Hey, I've got high risk family members as well. I know how high the stakes are in this. I know a family member's heart condition was brought on by a covid infection. I do feel that conspiracies like the anti-vaxxer movement are distractions promoted by influential people to mask what's really going on. They play on peoples' fears over "personal freedom," while they strip away our ability to govern ourselves and sell us out to the higher bidder. The thing that boggles my mind is that a certain members of a political party here peddled these conspiracy theories when their base were some of the most vulnerable in this country, while I can guarantee most of those same people got their jabs on the sly.

I mean I do have some issues on how things were done. There were members of the CDC who voted to add the chicken pox vaccine to the childhood schedule (if I recall correctly) that had a financial stake in the company or companies that were producing it, when they absolutely should have recused themselves. I also think we need to have a discussion about vaccine injury (something the CDC was never willing to have). I often think that CDC sometimes forgets that science can be very cold in the sense that the levels of vaccine injury are acceptable to them when compared to the rates of child and infant mortality that occurred prior to widespread vaccinations. And lord knows, that's cold comfort to a parent who has had a child injured from a vaccine. We know that genetics play a role in vaccine injury now, and I think a push to make vaccines even safer helps us all.

 

[Randall]

Uh, actually, I sit with the majority of good scientific history on planet earth and join in with the majority of people on planet earth who enjoy the use of vaccines in order to increase their life spans.

That's a new record for you. Threee fallacies in one — Argumentum ad populum, No True Scotsman, and appeal to authority.

That's why . . .

After the above, literally none of what you use them for to support your case — including the mockery I stripped out of your post, counts as valid counterpoint. Not to mention that the rest are simply claims that don't address any of the points I've mede in the past.

I hope you never get tetanus

I got a tetanus vax — not that I believe 100% that it would actually protect me anyway.

or shingles . . .

I've already had shingles — so I already have natural immunity.

. . . and that no one in your family and friend circle listens to your garbage science and then has a child or adult fall prey to a preventable disease.

And I hope none of my family ends-up injured ( or dead ) from a bad vax.

You are among the minority promoting a full blown conspiracy . . .

one that is very dangerous to the innocent lives of children specifically.

That's rich — Tell it to Jolene Moberly, a mother of three orphaned kids because she was killed by the COVID vax. Start looking at the overwhelming evidence of childhood vax injuries gathered by Children's Health Defense — tell it to the parents whose kids died from vax induced SIDS. Tell it to all the kids who were shut out of school during lockdowns. Tell it to the kids who were reduced into poverty because their parents lost their livelihoods due to lockdowns and mandates.

Israel Caught Concealing Children’s Vaccine Injuries​

Israel Was Caught Concealing Children’s Vaccine Injuries | Alliance for Human Research Protection

Leaked Documents Reveal: Israeli Ministry of Health Concealed Serious Harm from Pfizer Covid Vaccine Israel’s Ministry of Health commissioned a study analyzing reports of adverse events from Pfizer’s COVID vaccine to Israel’s vaccine database, known as the Nahlieli system, between December 2021...

ahrp.org

Prof. Berkowitz’s team found that children in the 5-11-year age group had twice to four times as many adverse events following the Pfizer shot as children in the 12-17 age group. This doubling of vaccine injuries is, in itself, extremely disturbing — and should have been immediately brought to the attention of the nation’s parents.

Thousands Of Kids Injured, Disabled By COVID Jab | NaturalHealth365

(NaturalHealth365) Latest VAERS data shows the horrifying reality of thousands of kids injured, disabled by COVID injection.

www.naturalhealth365.com

As of early June 2022, the CDC and FDA report, via VAERS, that nearly 50,000 American children ( up to age 17 ) have suffered harm following a COVID shot. Incredibly, more than 7,500 kids have required hospitalization or an emergency room visit due to their jab-correlated injury.

The data also reveals that the vast majority ( 40,639 ) of these reported pediatric injuries occurred following the Pfizer mRNA jab. Another 9,170 injury reports were associated with the Moderna mRNA jab. Finally, the J&J shot was associated with 1,326 reported injuries.

Of the kids reported as injured to VAERS, 1,047 of them experienced either a life-threatening issue and/or have been left permanently disabled soon after receiving their shots. Another 125 children died.

This might not even be the whole horrible picture, either, once we take into consideration that only about 1 percent of all jab-related adverse events are ever actually reported, according to HHS. Furthermore, this data reflects what’s happening in the United States only. Who knows (and will we ever know?) how many more children across the globe are suffering?

So you were saying?

I really don't understand . . .

If you don't understand, then you're not trying hard enough.
I understand the arguments of those on the other side of the barricades, and give credit where credit is due.

. . . why someone who is fairly smart bothers to believe in any of this hogwash.

The word "Hogwash" is not valid counterpoint.

You obviously have reasons for hating the medical establishment.

I don't think I've ever experienced hate in my life ever.

All your talk about medical freedom is really about enslaving people with diseases we got rid of a long time ago.

The only ones trying to "enslave people with diseases" are the ones behind the creation of them in labs, letting them leak, and then literally locking down the world until people comply with their authoritarian dictates — lockdowns, vax, passes, quarantine camps, censorship, suspension of civil liberties, etc — or weren't you paying attention?

Good luck and btw:

The way the world is going — I'm not the only one who needs it.

 

[Burnt State]

Final thoughts:

Big Pharma

And just as a final piece before I leave this thread altogether I want to be clear I am not a fan of big pharma, nor do I invest in anything the profiteers off of misery. If the pharmaceutical industry was not operating on capitalist principles it would afford poor countries discounts on inert vaccines so as not to cause further problems in areas of low vaccination and poor sanitation.

It would also make the very convenient type 1 diabetes injection pens available instead of pulling back on their production for poor nations in favour of making money off of Western world semaglutide injections. This forces young people to suddenly have to learn how to inject using hypodermic needles which is much more complicated and led to severe health issues in the type 1 populations in South Africa.

Polio

And because I realized that my discussion around the Polio drop off prior to the vaccine introduction was in a private message and not a public discussion I want to explain how the conspiracy BS works by making medical claims that have nothing to do with reality as Randall did above.

Polio is cyclical epidemic wave disease which means there is natural rising and falling because once it hits a peak it has fewer people to infect with natural immunity being established. You can see that in the graph above. Peaks are followed by natural declines but without real vaccination peaks keep getting higher every 2-3 years until the massive 1952 wave hit, devastating America.

One of the main reasons for decline was a huge social distancing effort that took place in America - just like with COVID, where parents pulled their kids from the play grounds and no one went out to restaurants or movie theatres, which helped in stoping the disease from finding new victims in 1953 and 1954.

However, once the vaccine came online everything changed. In 1954 vaccine trials started across North America (this is not recognized in Randall's graph at all because pseudo science likes to conveniently omit scientific realities in order to promote a conspiracy - and that's why it's pure hogwash) with 1.6 million kids receiving vaccination. This also helped in the decline of new cases. Once the successful trials were completed the vaccination went mainstream and polio was eliminated thanks to the vaccine and for no other reason. Polio didn't just mysteriously disappear on its own at all - it was the vaccine!

Research Vaccines and not Fake Science

You don't have to scratch the surface too far to see how mandatory core vaccines are essential requirements for travel, work in the military, to move across borders, to be a seafarer and it's just good common sense in countries around the world to keep children alive from birth onwards.

You don't have to go too far back in time in your local cemetery to see how pioneer families routinely would lose multiple children in their families to diseases that were later stopped by vaccines. Vaccines remain the single most important scientific discovery in the history of medicine. Don't let anyone tell you different. These are facts that stretch back over 230 years unlike the much more recent anti-vaccination movement which is based on scientific ignorance, false assumptions and usually tied to religious or fascist belief systems.

 

[Burnt State]

Hey, I've got high risk family members as well. I know how high the stakes are in this. I know a family member's heart condition was brought on by a covid infection. I do feel that conspiracies like the anti-vaxxer movement are distractions promoted by influential people to mask what's really going on. They play on peoples' fears over "personal freedom," while they strip away our ability to govern ourselves and sell us out to the higher bidder. The thing that boggles my mind is that a certain members of a political party here peddled these conspiracy theories when their base were some of the most vulnerable in this country, while I can guarantee most of those same people got their jabs on the sly.

I mean I do have some issues on how things were done. There were members of the CDC who voted to add the chicken pox vaccine to the childhood schedule (if I recall correctly) that had a financial stake in the company or companies that were producing it, when they absolutely should have recused themselves. I also think we need to have a discussion about vaccine injury (something the CDC was never willing to have). I often think that CDC sometimes forgets that science can be very cold in the sense that the levels of vaccine injury are acceptable to them when compared to the rates of child and infant mortality that occurred prior to widespread vaccinations. And lord knows, that's cold comfort to a parent who has had a child injured from a vaccine. We know that genetics play a role in vaccine injury now, and I think a push to make vaccines even safer helps us all.

I agree with all of this. medical science can be miraculous and cold comfort at the same time. I definitely know that reality.

I would like to live in a world where vaccinations are 100% effective with no outlier cases causing disease or death.

As we move forward we are learning more and more what the complications are and how to avoid these. The human population is highly diverse and sometimes we use a blunt object to serve the masses which can cause serious problems for a minority. It's really all about cash. Generic screening is pretty pricey but we will get there in time.

 

[Burnt State]

I meant to say genetic screening up above. But we have so much difficulty managing health insurance and hospital services for core services in North america that screening like that will remain for the ultra wealthy only.

 

[Randall]

Final thoughts: And just as a final piece before I leave this thread altogether . . .

So far as I'm concerned — you're always welcome to speak your mind here.

I want to be clear I am not a fan of big pharma, nor do I invest in anything the profiteers off of misery. If the pharmaceutical industry was not operating on capitalist principles it would afford poor countries discounts on inert vaccines so as not to cause further problems in areas of low vaccination and poor sanitation.

It would also make the very convenient type 1 diabetes injection pens available instead of pulling back on their production for poor nations in favour of making money off of Western world semaglutide injections. This forces young people to suddenly have to learn how to inject using hypodermic needles which is much more complicated and led to severe health issues in the type 1 populations in South Africa.

Interesting that you mention diabetes — yet another vax-inducing condition.
Ask James Fox about his experience.

Polio

And because I realized that my discussion around the Polio drop off prior to the vaccine introduction was in a private message and not a public discussion I want to explain how the conspiracy BS works by making medical claims that have nothing to do with reality as Randall did above.

Polio is cyclical epidemic wave disease which means there is natural rising and falling because once it hits a peak it has fewer people to infect with natural immunity being established. You can see that in the graph above. Peaks are followed by natural declines but without real vaccination peaks keep getting higher every 2-3 years until the massive 1952 wave hit, devastating America.

One of the main reasons for decline was a huge social distancing effort that took place in America - just like with COVID, where parents pulled their kids from the play grounds and no one went out to restaurants or movie theatres, which helped in stoping the disease from finding new victims in 1953 and 1954.

However, once the vaccine came online everything changed. In 1954 vaccine trials started across North America (this is not recognized in Randall's graph at all because pseudo science likes to conveniently omit scientific realities in order to promote a conspiracy - and that's why it's pure hogwash) with 1.6 million kids receiving vaccination. This also helped in the decline of new cases. Once the successful trials were completed the vaccination went mainstream and polio was eliminated thanks to the vaccine and for no other reason. Polio didn't just mysteriously disappear on its own at all - it was the vaccine!

Your counterpoint leaves out other factors e.g.

1. The deaths caused by the polio vax.
2. All contributing factors to polio's decline prior to the vax
3. The change in the definition of polio.
4. The renewed outbreaks of polio caused by the vax in Africa
5. The misdiagnosis of polio due to environmental contamination causing the same symptoms.
6. The cases of poilio in other countries after the vax was introduced
7. That based on the above — the trope that it was vaccines that wiped-out polio is demostrably false.

Research Vaccines and not Fake Science

That's not valid counterpoint. It's a loaded suggestion.
Besides that, I've already looked at the various claims and counterclaims.
I get science and can tell what's legit from what's not.

You don't have to scratch the surface . . .

Maybe that's your problem — you only scratched the surface.

You don't have to go too far back in time in your local cemetery to see how pioneer families routinely would lose multiple children in their families to diseases that were later stopped by vaccines.

Most of the decline in disease was cause by better living conditions including:

• Better sewage
• Better sanitation
• Better nutrition
• Less poverty
• Better education

The claim that vaccines are the big savior of the world is as hollow as the Hollow Earth Theory.

Vaccines remain the single most important scientific discovery in the history of medicine.

I don't buy it anymore.
Over the last six years I've come to see the "vaccines are the most important scientific discovery" trope as yet another propagandist claim used to market one of the biggest medical scams in history.

I can also think of more important scientific discoveries applicable to medical science:

• Microscopes
• Sanitation
• Nutrition
• Antibiotics
• DNA
• Diagnostic imaging ( X-Ray, MRI, etc )
• Anesthetics
• Pain killers
• Defibrillators
• Insulin
• Stem cells

IMO — injecting oneself with poison containing maybe dead pathogens belongs in the history books along with leaches and prefrontal lobotomies.

Don't let anyone tell you different.

I'll think for myself — thank you.

These are facts that stretch back over 230 years unlike the much more recent anti-vaccination movement which is based on scientific ignorance, false assumptions and usually tied to religious or fascist belief systems.

Those are proclamations, ( not facts ) — none of which hold-up under serious scrutiny.

Nor do they address my central position — that vaccine efficacy is beside the point when it comes to maintaining civil liberties and bodily autonomy in an increasingly authoritarian world. When governments, institutions, and employers start coercing people into complying with orders to inject themselves with ( anything ) — all other freedoms become redundant.

Therefore IMO, freedom from such tyranny is of the highest order — exempt from political or legal arguments, which makes any form of coersion to comply with mandates ( legal or otherwise ) an abuse of power that must be resisted. Disagreeing with that just puts oneself on the other side of the barricades with tyrants and dictators.

 

[Tyger]

NOTE: It's interesting how the above article has been sanitized since I first came across it and the link to the original report is no longer available. This is a recurring theme as the PTB in the pharamaceutical industrial complex try to bury, memory hole, and cover-up their messes.

Yes, a lot of this going on. Now that we have the ability to interact with the 'AI' (for lack of a better term) we can see how 'off' the information on the internet really is, and how powerful big money is to be able to 'write the script' we imbibe. In the end I don't try to convince anyone of anything, I just present a way of seeing things that I think is interesting and let it rise or fall on its own merits.

The one thing I have become keenly aware of - and now recognize - is what is termed 'psyops'. Wild world.

 

[Tyger]

Six Terms Used by Those Trying to Propagandize You

This is a very short video - just 1:20. I urge others on this thread to listen to it.

 

[Randall]

This is a very short video - just 1:20. I urge others on this thread to listen to it.

Indeed. Those terms are often used as part of DARVO ( Deny, Attack and Reverse Victim & Offender )

Coined by psychologist Dr. Jennifer Freyd, DARVO is a common manipulation and gaslighting strategy used to avoid accountability and shift blame. It was used extensively during the COVID Era, and is Fauci's favorite tactic. He's done it over and over and over again in the hearings. He's worn it out so much that now he just pleads the Fifth

 

[Randall]

Dawn Richardson is the Director of Advocacy for the National Vaccine Information Center (NVIC), an organization that frequently references and analyzes data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) and lobbies for state-level legislation to improve vaccine tracking, provide fully informed consent, and ensure exemptions.The video starts at around 36:40 ( it should start there automatically ).

Advocating For Mandating That Vax Records Be
Included In SIDS Autopsy Reports

Even the most hard-line vax-cult skeptics have to to admit that having mandatory tracking and disclosure of vax records is reasonable evidence to consider in autopsy investigations of SIDS cases — Right? Otherwise — what are they afraid of? Everybody is so "do it for the kids" — right? Or should big pharma get an exception because it might cause "vaccine hesitancy"? Give it up — that boat has already sailed. It's time to start prosecuting the actual criminals, instead of grieving parents !

 

[Tyger]

Moderna's new mRNA flu shot. Negatively effective. Package insert 92 pages long? Again no placebo trials. 73% had negative reactions.

MFLUSIVA
"A few more points to add from the 92 page FDA approval document (I was mistaken, the package insert wasn’t actually that long, so there’s less info and context available now if that makes you feel better.):
- they noted that creating a new mRNA vaccine was necessary because flu shot is not that effective (lol)
- significantly more side effects and deaths in the mRNA group
- their conditional approval for 65 and over is dependent on two studies that they need to perform with at least 800,000 sample size, meaning, they’re gonna push this hard on grandparents because they want that approval for Medicare." - Katie Collins PA-C

39K views · 9.8K reactions | MFLUSIVA A few more points to add from the 92 page FDA approval document (I was mistaken, the package insert wasn’t actually that long, so there’s less info and context available now if that makes you feel better.): - t

MFLUSIVA A few more points to add from the 92 page FDA approval document (I was mistaken, the package insert wasn’t actually that long, so there’s less info and context available now if that makes...

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