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A fake plane was added for south tower explosion

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Four flying bombs were captured on film and survived without alteration. The only inconsistency is chopper 4 disappears behind the top of tower 1, while the other three are lower but at the same level. Here they are in this order; NY1, WB11, CBS, and Chopper 4, aka WNBC. Only the CBS orb did not air live. The Today Show aired the orb but changed camera angles before it could complete its path to explosion.

The final 14 seconds of approach by nist was south to north, not west to east. The drone/orb cannot visually be a chopper or plane and its float path would have crashed into the west side of T2, not southeast corner. The drone literally circled the towers just like Matt Lauer said after he saw it.

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What do you think of the whole Barry Jennings mystery? His mysterious death only adds to it.


I had heard something of this a while back but I'd never seen this interview. Wow. He seems very sure and matter-of-fact in his timeline i.e that WT7 had explosions before either tower collapsed.
Maybe I am more paranoid but if I had been him I would have started to panic when I realised I was one of only 2 people who could justifiably contradict the official story. Of course hindsight is a great thing.
It is an utter travesty that the '9/11 commision' - and for that you may as well read 'warren commision' asked Barry, presumably under some oath about his experience and then neglect to include it in the official report. Any police officer would tell you that different witnesses can have vastly differing accounts of the same event and still all be all telling the truth as they saw it. So Barry's story does not have to match the official account for him to be telling the truth. No.
It would be fine to have contradictory evidence to a degree. It is far from fine to just effectively delete his testimony from the record. That smacks of direction from above or at least housekeeping from investigators wishing to bring only evidence that backs the official story.
Without evidence it may be a leap to jump to the conclusion his death is related but it seems very telling that a private investigator, charged with investigating his death, accepted the job then refused to continue. If TV characters are to be believed PI's are always broke and looking for a case to make some money. It would have to be a compelling reason for one not to proceed with an investigation.
One major thing about the whole 9/11 thing that really bothers me is that if it was a conspiracy, then I would think such a conspiracy would try to rely on as few people being in the know as possible. Certainly I find it impossible to believe that the whole CIA or FBI is in on it. If that is the case, and I think it probably is, then there must be large swathes of public officials and law enforcement officers who are not in the conspiracy but must still be acting as if they are, i.e they do not know but regardless they are going to do anything to make sure the official story is the only one that is accepted. For example, if Barry was 'taken out' then I am sure the hitman would not have been involved in planning 9/11 but even so, is willing, on orders, to remove someone who is telling the truth, thereby confirming the official story is untrue to said hitman. Like he finds out it all stinks but jumps in and becomes part of it willingly. Sick beyond comprehension if true.
The really sad part is that a hard-working family man in the wrong place at the wrong time will over time become a smaller and smaller part of peoples lives and in the end, probably it will seem like he never existed. Not in the nation's consciousness anyway.
It is a good thing that he told his side when he had the chance and that will survive for ever.
I mean really, what goes through Obama's mind if he watches testimony like that? Does he have any doubts?
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The inboard flap track on the right wing of fake 175 clearly has the inboard flap not between it and the fuselage (YOU can see it, clear as day), thus it's too close as the faked image shows. The left engine nacelle also does not connect to the underside of the wing at a point outboard of the flap track, exactly as it can't be. The rearmost point of the nacelle attachment footprint is clearly not abaft of the leading tip of the flap track fairing, also impossible and fake.

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Not only that, the two large reflections on the left engine would not be there given the angle of the plane and the shadow on the rest of the plane.

I work with Photoshop every day and could do a much better job than that.

The inboard flap track on the right wing of fake 175 clearly has the inboard flap not between it and the fuselage (YOU can see it, clear as day), thus it's too close as the faked image shows. The left engine nacelle also does not connect to the underside of the wing at a point outboard of the flap track, exactly as it can't be. The rearmost point of the nacelle attachment footprint is clearly not abaft of the leading tip of the flap track fairing, also impossible and fake. This floundering, fake image flop has the flap open on the front of the left wing, not rear where it must be. Yet, another devastating blow to the real planes myth.

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The hinged control surfaces are used to steer and control the airplane. The flaps and ailerons are connected to the backside of the wings. The flaps slide back and down to increase the surface of the wing area. They also tilt down to increase the curve of the wing. The slats move out from the front of the wings to make the wing space larger. This helps to increase the lifting force of the wing at slower speeds like takeoff and landing. The ailerons are hinged on the wings and move downward to push the air down and make the wing tilt up. This moves the plane to the side and helps it turn during flight. After landing, the spoilers are used like air brakes to reduce any remaining lift and slow down the airplane.
 
I was able capture the orb as it peeked out and then a quick edit occurs to well after the explosion. These guys did not see a plane and were confused as to how the south tower exploded.
There are countless videos with the impact edited out because they weren't going to insert fake plane images into all of them. You can see him pan to the right when the orb caught his eye.

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2nd hit missed [EMAIL]Campl@net[/EMAIL] NE apartment (w/ bird) - YouTube
 
I think the kennedy driver was piloting the plane and shot the tower with a cannon as it went by. TheDriverKilledTheTower!
 
Truthers are brain damaged. I mean really, there's no other way around this. At best, they're bored and tasteless. At worst, they indoctrinate others to believe in their bizarre worldview. At least birthers can point to poor Photoshopped certificates, but these guys have nothing.
 
The most credible eyewitnesses did not see any big plane hit the south tower, because there wasn't one that did.

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"And then heard this noise that seemed to come from everywhere but didn't...had no idea what it was and then the south tower just exploded, it just it just, it just blew up. And somebody said that was a plane and I was like, "I was underneath it, I was looking at the tower, I had my camera in my hand, I heard the noise, I never saw the airplane."

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Whomever Cloud turned his footage over to added a black blob. Clifton, did not hear nor see a plane. It would have been coming from his left. Clifton, debunks all video fakery shown on 911. Advance to 2:00 for his real-time account. He says it over and over and over and over. He didn't see a plane because there was no plane to see. The blob cannot be seen south of where it magically appeared. He was about a mile east of the towers and slightly north. HE CALLED HIS CO-WORKER.

"I just caught the second explosion on videotape...No, a bomb, I saw it, no plane hit nothin', the building exploded from the other tower floors down."

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DUDE! Give... it ...UP!
19 foreign terrorists hijacked 4 airliners.......2 of them flew into the Twin Towers, 1 into the Pentagon, 1 (thanks to the passengers heroism) crashed into a field in Pennsylvania!!!! The evidence is just plain overwhelming that this is exactly what happened! Bunches of Video, eyewitnesses out the yin-yang, MY OWN EYES ON THAT MORNING watching the news! No orbs, no thermite, no thermite paint, no explosives pre-planted------not one shred of evidence for any of those wild-ass stories.
I am however convinced the Government knew that there would be a hijacking, but for whatever reason, did nothing to stop it. There IS plenty of evidence for that.

Now, I have my own doubts about the JFK assassination, but it sure as hell wasn't the driver based on those grainy film stills with oily flashing hair! That doesn't explain Governor Connelly's wounds, PLUS a .45ACP from point blank range would have exploded/splattered JFK's head all over the place!!!
JFK died from at least one sniper, probably Lee Harvey Oswald, although there's the grassy knoll argument about two snipers, and I am convinced Oswald was not alone. Once again, evidence points to this, not wild rumor mongering.

Just quit dude. No one's buying that snake oil anymore.....................
 
Seriously can the mods just close this craptrap of a thread as well? 1 guy didn't see the plane so that means every other witness who did must be full of it? Is this a joke? Must've been a UFO with a futuristic beam weapon/hologram setup that's never been used before or since, yeah that makes a ton of sense. Did the UFO also drop off all of the pieces of the planes that were found and photographed? Someone has been listening to a little too much John Lear and the nutballs from Project Camelot. What's next, sould catchers on the moon?

All of these photos of aircraft debris from the explosions at the towers must be fake as well, right? Or did the UFO bring those too?

9/11 Aircraft Parts and Contents Recovered in NYC

Main 9/11 Links Page

See also NIST NCSTAR 1-2
Baseline Structural Performance and Aircraft Impact Damage Analysis of the WTC Towers



"I'm on West Street, right out of the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel. And I was driving in, and I heard an enormous explosion. Then I heard another enormous explosion, and it scared me. I looked out the window, and an enormous tire, what appeared to be a tire, smashed down on the street in front of me. And I looked out, and there was an enormous amount of debris, and we were two or three or four blocks down from the World Trade Center. This is the northern building in the World Trade Center. I yelled to the gentleman in the car, 'Let me out.' I ran back, and a gentleman next to me had been hit by debris." George Shea, live on the telephone with


Scroll to bottom of page for many more eyewitness accounts

Engine and landing gear parts leave smoke trails after United flight 175 struck the south tower. The engine portion came to rest at Church and Murray Streets; the landing gear on the roof of 45 Park Place.





The World Trade Center site was a NYPD and FBI crime scene, as was the Fresh Kills sorting area.




Below: Engine part after being removed to Fresh Kills


Wing spar, engine parts, and other aircraft parts at Fresh Kills



The flight data and cockpit voice recorders from the WTC planes were not recovered. Workers were advised to be on the lookout for them. At the Pentagon, both recorders from flight 77 were recovered but only the FDR had usable data. At Shanksville, both recorders were recovered and had usable data.








Below: aircraft parts embedded in back of car







Nearby rooftops were covered with small aircraft parts.







This number tag is for a part of the LE slat control system of a 767 200-300. See diagram here.

Some fragile aircraft contents survived: papers, seat cushions, life vests, and of course body parts



Above and below: seat cushions
 
Here's what I just don't get, if the only responses you are getting here are overwhelmingly negative, why do you keep on posting? Are Cooper-freak/Truthers into this whole ridicule me and prove me wrong thing? Or are you convinced that if you find something we might eventually agree with, that we'll look back and somehow decide that all of the other paranoid crap that you've posted before is now validated, and correct? I'm sorry to tell you that more than likely will not happen, even if you post something logical one day. You are aware of the analogy that even a broken clock is correct once (sometimes twice depending on the make) a day?
 
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FDNY EMT Briam Smith: "So we went up to the 10-10 house...I remember there was life jackets everywhere, the yellow in-flight life jackets, and that the contrast of the yellow against all the gray, you know. It stood out."
Below: aircraft parts on display at museums





Below three photos: in front of 130 Liberty Street after both impacts. Footbridge leads from 130 Liberty (Deutsche Bank) to WTC 2 (south tower).



More parts photos here: http://americanhistory.si.edu/septem...cord.asp?ID=45

Personal Effects and Documents from Flights 11 and 175 Recovered
(Hijacker Satam M. A. al-Suqami's) passport was recovered by NYPD Detective Yuk H. Chin from a male passerby in a business suit, about 30 years old. The passerby left before being identified, while debris was falling from WTC 2. The tower collapsed shortly afterwards. The detective then gave the passport to the FBI on 9/11. Source (pdf)


On the street, standing in a shower of office paper and the siding from the building, he found a piece of paper. It was an airliner's itinerary, listing information about a flight from Boston to Los Angeles. Source



"...I noticed in the courtyard that there were valises, suitcases, strewn about the courtyard. There were wallets everywhere, broken glass, and then I noticed that there were airplane tickets." FDNY firefighter John Moribito



Along with the letter was a note: ''To whom it may concern. This was found floating around the street in downtown New York. I am sorry if you suffered any loss in this tragedy. Sincerely, a friend in New York!''
...Since then, Mrs. Snyder, a customer service representative at a grocery store, has discovered that she has one of only two pieces of mail known to have been recovered from the planes that crashed into the World Trade Center. At least one auction house has contacted her, saying she could sell the letter for tens of thousands of dollars. Source


Lisa Anne Frost was 22 and had just graduated from Boston University in May 2001 with two degrees and multiple academic and service honors. She had worked all summer in Boston before coming home, finally, to California to start her new life. The Rancho Santa Margarita woman was on United Flight 175 on the morning of Sept. 11, 2001, when it became the second plane to slam into the World Trade Center.
...In February, the day of the Columbia tragedy, we got word they'd found her United Airlines Mileage Plus card. It was found very near where they'd found a piece of her right hip. We imagine that she used the card early on the morning of Sept. 11 to get on the plane and just stuck it in her back pocket, probably her right back pocket, instead of in her purse. Source


The discovery of a foot and leg and a cockpit seat led to speculation that one of the pilots had been found, Goldberg said. Source


DNA extractions were done on every one of the 19,906 remains, and 4,735 of those have been identified. As many as 200 remains have been linked to a single person.

The 1,401 people identified include 45 of those aboard the hijacked planes - 33 from Flight 11, which struck the north tower, and 12 from Flight 175, which hit the south tower. Source

Related: things with "give" survive a huge IED explosion beneath a Humvee in Mosul, Iraq:
The smell of fuel and wreckage had a chokehold on the debris field. The damage was jaggedly inconsistent: while rigid items had shattered into bits, those items with “give” distorted but remained amazingly intact. A case of water bottles had blown apart and the bottles were scattered all around, but I didn’t see any that were split open. They were in perfect condition. Radios were shattered, but paper items merely scattered about. Night-vision devices blown to pieces, but MREs (packaged meals) tossed around but otherwise completely unharmed, unburned, and not even scorched.Source
More witness accounts of aircraft debris FDNY accounts are from here.


Church and Vesey. We were coming across and we walked down. We had to go down to the command center. We carried all our tools, the bottles, everything, and as we're walking down, part of the plane engine was sitting right in the street, still burning. I said, look, this is the plane. FDNY firefighter Paul Hyland


Once we started taking off, I guess 30 feet in front of us, there was a lady on the ground by the curb and she was just waving her arms. That's all she could wave. Her legs were crushed. Apparently she got hit by part of the landing gear, one of the tires of the airplane. There was a large tire next to her. FDNY EMT Orlando Martinez


...we started making our way to NYU Downtown Hospital, Beekman, to drop off our first set of patients when we got flagged down for another lady who got hit by the landing gear of the first plane. FDNY EMT Frank Puma


We just passed a compact car where the engine was running and the door was open, which looked to me like the driver had escaped, but from the back seat to the trunk was crushed by a jet engine. We started going up West Street. I believe that's when Smitty ran over the part of the plane, but he did that to avoid the bodies because there were obviously bodies in the street. FDNY firefighter Michael Hazel


There was a car that we drove by that the driver's door and the passenger door were open, and there was a plane motor on the back half of the car. Two inches more, and both these guys would have been dead too. That was their ticket. It was amazing. The car was actually cut right in half with this motor, right there back of the front seat. I sat there in amazement. FDNY firefighter Richard Saulle


"A section of the landing gear proved to me that this was a commercial airliner." PAPD Det. Sgt. Raymond Dilena Source


A tremendous fireball, flaming debris, pieces of the airplane, fuselage, landing gear, pieces of the building. ...We started running down one of the little side streets, Courtlandt or Dey. There were people dead in the street that obviously you couldn't help them. There was flaming debris coming down all over. It was just a matter of who got hit with the debris. FDNY Captain Michael Donovan


Right behind us on the southeast corner of West and Rector was a landing gear assembly from an aircraft lying against the curb and some scaffolding. PAPD Det. Edward Rapp Source


As we approached West Broadway, a NYPD lieutenant told us we could not proceed due to aircraft parts blocking the road. PAPD Det. Robert Fuchs Source


People coming out of the buildings half burned, the fuel must have spewed down and hit some people. A lot of burns literally down through the skin to the bone. I had two patients on my ambulance, vehicle 111. FBI Agents were telling us to move our vehicle from the corner of Vessey and West, cause there was debris from the airplane which they needed for evidence. I guess it was NTSB, they wanted the area secured. There was nowhere for us to move the vehicle, cause there was debris everywhere. FDNY EMT Alwish Monchery


After that, an FBI agent came down the block. He identified some landing gear that was in front of our rig, asked me to make sure no pedestrians came down the block to interfere with any type of metals and debris that were there, because they were trying to identify to put the pieces back together for the plane. FDNY firefighter Sidney Parris


Vesey and Church, Vesey and Church right there. We stepped off the rig, and there were plane engine parts and people yelling and screaming. FDNY firefighter Bertram Springstead


Walking around, we came out to Rector Street. We saw one of the landing gears from the airplane. FDNY EMT Benjamin Badillo


Various pieces of the plane were falling on the street. As we went down the street you could see parts of aircraft with stencil numbers on it and things like that. There was a wheel, or like a wheel housing or something else there in the street. FDNY Deputy Commissioner Thomas Fitzpatrick


I continued down Liberty, just west of 10 and 10. As I got down a little farther, there was what looked to be a piece of the cabin of the airplane, I guess. It looked like a piece of it about maybe six foot long. It looked like the windows. FDNY Battalion Chief Brian Dixon


I parked the rig on Church right at Fulton, directly in front of the World Trade north plaza. My officer told us we're going to go into the north tower lobby. We proceeded down to Vesey. Walking down Vesey, we noticed large pieces of what looked like possibly the fuselage from the

plane. There was a caravan of motorcycle police coming up. We stopped them and we cleared the path of big O rings and pieces of fuselage of the plane. We threw it to the side, and we told the guys to go on. Fire Patrolman Paul Curran


...it was Dey or Cortlandt Street. We walked down that block. It was littered with airplane parts.... FDNY Chief Ray Goldbach


Captain Nahmod and I were running down Vesey Street stepping over airplane pieces, several bodies and whatnot. There was what looked like the front wheel assembly of an airplane. Unknown the size of the plane that had hit, it just looked like it was one pair of wheels on an assembly, pieces of metal with rivets in them, a few body parts scattered around. FDNY EMT Richard Zarillo


Michael Sheehan, a broker working on the 55th floor of 2 World Trade Center, moved to the stairwell when he realized a plane had crashed into 1 World Trade Center. By the time he reached the 25th floor, he could smell the fumes of fuel that had begun to filter through the ventilation systems of the two buildings.


Like I remember walking by with the chief, and I remember seeing the airplane engine. FDNY EMT Robert Kimball


We came up, tried to find our way into the courtyard area and we hugged the side of the buildings and it was an overhang that we stayed under. We noticed metal that looked like it came from the plane, in retrospect. FDNY Assistant Commissioner Thomas McDonald


So we ran back to the car and laying right in back of my car was a large object which I thought was probably part of one of the aircraft turbines. FDNY Chief of Safety Albert Turi.


We did see part of -- I didn't see it, but Jeff Johnson told me later on he did see part of the landing gear actually fell right through the roof and it was in one of the Jacuzzis in another room. FDNY firefighter John Breen, in the Marriott Vista hotel (WTC 3)


By the time I started to pass by in front of (firehouse) 10 and 10. As I got down a little farther, there was what looked to be a piece of the cabin of the airplane, I guess. It looked like a piece of it about maybe six foot long. It looked like the windows. FDNY firefighter Brian Dixon


The other thing that was actually evident, though, is what appeared to be some plane parts, like some circular pieces of a plane, the walk down Vesey Street. FDNY EMS Dr. Michael Guttenberg


We were driving out of the tunnel up West Street and we're seeing body parts in the street, torsos, chunks of flesh, parts of the airplane landing gear, car fires everywhere. It was like a war zone. FDNY firefighter Steve Piccerill


I passed over some pieces of what appeared to be aircraft wreckage, fuselage, whatever, some body parts and bodies in various states, either people from the building or the airplanes. You couldn't tell. They weren't intact. FDNY EMS Division Chief John Peruggia


Then actually when I found my car, I found my car like later, later on in the day, but I left it there, because it was not able to be moved because it was covered. There was an airplane tire about 10 feet away from it. FDNY EMS Captain Frank D'Amato, at the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel & West Street


The landing gear of the aircraft was in that parking lot there. It was right near us. FDNY firefighter Dean Coutsouros


There were a number of airplane parts throughout the street, littering the streets. FDNY firefighter Robert Norris

I remember at one point seeing what looked like piece of an airplane. That piece looked like it crushed half that car. FDNY firefighter Kevin McCabe

...our initial response was seeing body parts and airplane parts all over the west side. FDNY EMT Stephen Hess


You heard the explosion and everything, but I saw the big fire ball. The stuff was coming down across the street. It looked like a meteor came flying across the street. They said it was the engine. FDNY firefighter Peter Fallucca


As we were riding in, we must have ran over some debris from the plane. We saw debris all over the floor. We saw a wheel. There was cars that were flattened. It was obvious that heavy things had fallen on them. FDNY firefighter Joseph Sullivan


That was before we got to the south pedestrian bridge, before Liberty Street . You could see airplane parts just littered across the street, across the highway. FDNY firefighter Craig Monahan


You could see airplane parts on the ground and although I didn't realize it at the time, I later realized there were body parts, both on the concourse and on the street. (some of these might have been jumpers) I now made a left on Vesey and walked down the street on the 7 World Trade Center side, where I could see more airplane debris. FDNY Assistant Commissioner James Drury


There was jumpers everywhere, there was bodies everywhere, pieces of plane everywhere. FDNY firefighter Kevin Murray


We walked down Vesey Street, and it was like total silence, nothing. It was eerie. There were police cars all parked on angles, metal going through their hoods. There was a tire of a plane on top of one. FDNY firefighter Arthur Riccio


It's interesting because, as we were there, there was a police car, I guess, on Vesey, on the corner there, and some debris comes down from whatever this explosion was, at the time we really didn't know, and it just crushes it, I mean, crushes the top front of the police car, which really scared me at that point.

Q.Could you tell if it was airplane parts?

A. It looked like an airplane part afterward, yes, it did. It looked like part of an engine. It was pretty big. It was probably the size of the hood because it kind of hit it, bounced, and then rolled off. FDNY paramedic Manuel Delgado


Well, we had problems securing some tie- back cables to the setback roof and I had to go to the upper roof to see if we could run the cables up there. I had my camera and headed for the upper roof and I couldn't believe what I saw. There was a large piece of a landing gear and pieces of airplane parts all over the roof. I took many pictures and quickly left he roof. Louis, aka "Scaffoldrider" Took photos of aircraft parts on Federal Building Source


In my zeal to get close, I had not noticed the falling bodies. Then I nearly stepped into a puddle of blood that was congealing beside what looked like the titanium gear of a pulverized airliner. Andrew Jacobs


One security officer reported that while the engine of the first plane had landed in the [Marriot] swimming pool, everyone in the health club was fine, and all were being brought to the lobby. Another officer radioed that the room-by-room evacuation was proceeding and that all guests were being brought down to the first floor. Source



There's a reason nobody buys this idiotic theory of yours.
 
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