I just saw a UFO

[Angel of Ioren]

Hi AIO,
I agree with your comments that not all UAP/UFO/UMPS are from outer space or here on Earth I just tend to think it could be anything even secret projects and I just don't rely on someone peer reviewed paper or spoke person for example a corporation agenda telling me what is above our skies is what they tell all the time. Like everything in life it has a political agenda andeveryone is being paid by someone and has to follow guide lines

I just prefer to go with what makes sense.
Aliens visiting us/Time Travelers/Gods/Tricksters? Makes no sense and no falsifiable evidence is possible
Unknown natural phenomena? A lot more plausible
Mis-identification of something known? The most likely cause

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

I just prefer to go with what makes sense.
Aliens visiting us/Time Travelers/Gods/Tricksters? Makes no sense and no falsifiable evidence is possible
Unknown natural phenomena? A lot more plausible
Mis-identification of something known? The most likely cause

Tell me AOI have you ever seen a UFO or strange awareness encounter?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Tell me AOI have you ever seen a UFO or strange awareness encounter?

Well, I've never seen anything that I have not been able to identify, as with what happened last night. As for a strange awareness encounter? I've had sleep paralysis many times.
If I had had some sort of paranormal experience, I would not be the type of skeptic I am. Remember, I don't think any of this stuff exists in the way most people on this forum do. I do find it extremely interesting though, and when I joined this forum i did think that there may be some sort of intellegence guiding UFOs - I don't think that anymore.

 

[pixelsmith]

Well, I've never seen anything that I have not been able to identify, as with what happened last night. As for a strange awareness encounter? I've had sleep paralysis many times.
If I had had some sort of paranormal experience, I would not be the type of skeptic I am. Remember, I don't think any of this stuff exists in the way most people on this forum do. I do find it extremely interesting though, and when I joined this forum i did think that there may be some sort of intellegence guiding UFOs - I don't think that anymore.

no longer a "A slack-jawed yokel"?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

no longer a "A slack-jawed yokel"?

Nope. I read me sum dem der scientician books!

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Well, I've never seen anything that I have not been able to identify, as with what happened last night. As for a strange awareness encounter? I've had sleep paralysis many times.
If I had had some sort of paranormal experience, I would not be the type of skeptic I am. Remember, I don't think any of this stuff exists in the way most people on this forum do. I do find it extremely interesting though, and when I joined this forum i did think that there may be some sort of intellegence guiding UFOs - I don't think that anymore.

So do you believe in sleep paralysis ? How do know sleep paralysis is the right answer ?and who agenda is that theory?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

So do you believe in sleep paralysis ? How do know sleep paralysis is the right answer ?and who agenda is that theory?

You mean if I believe in something that's been proven by sleep experts in a lab and tested - yes I do. There's nothing to take on faith with that. It's like saying do you believe in dreams or nightmares.
And i don't know what you mean by agenda.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

You mean if I believe in something that's been prov-en by sleep experts in a lab and tested - yes I do. There's nothing to take on faith with that. It's like saying do you believe in dreams or nightmares.
And i don't know what you mean by agenda.

Well tested lab experiments by sleep experts do they realy know what goes on in our minds isn't just a theory ? Agenda which I meant Academic who funded the experiments and how many people were tested 1-10, 1000-6 billion?

 

[trainedobserver]

Any thoughts?

Excellent thread.

I have seen several things in the sky over the years that at first glance I was unable to identify. There is a wonderful moment of ... dumbfoundedness(?) in which everything seems to stop and your brain stutters and stalls. OR at least that is my experience. This usually only lasts a few seconds at most before my brain starts hitting its database looking for patterns. I've seen geese flying in formation with the sun glinting off their bellies that looked like a massive slow moving triangle ... for a few seconds. I've seen bizarrely shaped black objects moving through the day time sky that were most likely solar balloons or just black trash bags someone tied together. The most spectacular sighting I have had was seeing either the space shuttle or a satellite ripping across the Texas sky from horizon to horizon in a matter of seconds. I "assume" it was the shuttle or a satellite. The shuttle was up there at the time and I was looking in that quadrant of the sky when I saw it. The only thing that has bothered me about it was the speed. I was just awed by the incredible speed of the thing. Still, I think it is safe to assume it was the shuttle rather than something else.

I think that moment of awe and wonder that can be experienced when encountering something that "stalls" the brain is one of the big draws to the whole UFO/paranormal phenomena. I think people (or if you insist "some people") want to experience that sort of thing and perhaps on some subconscious level "go with it" and don't progress to the "lets think about it" phase as readily as others. Does that make sense? It's a bit like things I have experienced in religious circles where prosaic explanations for events are overlooked so that supernatural elements can be credited and celebrated or condemned.

UFO reports are largely misidentified or more properly unidentified prosaic objects. We know that already from the literature going back decades. Its that (depending on who you read) 5 or 10 percent of the sightings that aircraft, balloons, satellites, or swamp gas (cough, cough) don't explain that interest me. They do exist my friend.

"Look! Up in the sky! It's a bird! It's a plane! It's ... It's ... What the hell is that?"

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Nope. I read me sum dem der scientician books!

Gee whiz, youse fellows have 'em transerlated inter Canadian? Ain't all dem thangs written in Latin?

 

[Angel of Ioren]

Well tested lab experiments by sleep experts do they realy know what goes on in our minds isn't just a theory ? Agenda which I meant Academic who funded the experiments and how many people were tested 1-10, 1000-6 billion?

You can take a look at this one and then take it from there.

The Waterloo Episodic Sleep Paralysis Study

 

[Kieran]

So I'm sitting on my front porch with my wife having a coffee. I see an airplane fly over head, and then in the distance I see a redish light, slowly moving, and then it just disappeared.

I just saw a commercial airliner, as many fly over my house high up in the air, the sun reflecting off of it. It blinked out because the angle changed and the sun stopped reflecting off of it. Now I know how easy it is for someone to say they saw a UFO.

I wonder how many "documented" UFO sightings are of this nature. Another factor adding to this is the way I think versus the way a true UFO believer thinks. To me, there are so many explanations before I can even fathom considering something unknown - to the true believer though, there are probably few.

Any thoughts?

Every Video that I have watched posted on the internet, shows a light or lights against a black sky. Frequently there all crappy videos and most of the lights are not unidentified the sourcing for the lights is earth bound not alien.

Lights in the sky are only interesting to me now if there photographed or videoed in daylight hours. I believe, genuine UFO sightings are rare and not as widespread as some people suggest!! I estimate (my opinion) twenty to fifty genuine sightings of UFOs each year would be the real deal. Those objects were unidentified and after closer inspection and investigation that would be borne out.

 

[Xylo]

So I'm sitting on my front porch with my wife having a coffee. I see an airplane fly over head, and then in the distance I see a redish light, slowly moving, and then it just disappeared.

I just saw a commercial airliner, as many fly over my house high up in the air, the sun reflecting off of it. It blinked out because the angle changed and the sun stopped reflecting off of it. Now I know how easy it is for someone to say they saw a UFO.

I wonder how many "documented" UFO sightings are of this nature. Another factor adding to this is the way I think versus the way a true UFO believer thinks. To me, there are so many explanations before I can even fathom considering something unknown - to the true believer though, there are probably few.

Any thoughts?

I've got a few...

Yep it's easy to see a UFO. It's easy to be confused when you are standing/sitting at ground level and something flies overhead at 30,000 feet. But reason and rational thinking is the friend of the observer.

I don't consider myself a "believer" in UFOs in the way I don't consider myself to be a "believer" in rush-hour traffic. They both exist, but I don't believe in them.

I have had two sightings myself, one of them which consisted of high altitude craft performing a single crazy maneuver. I have no doubt that what I saw was a military aircraft, but it was unlike any that I've ever seen before. However, my first inclination when I saw it was "holy crap what the hell is that?" Once the initial excitement waned, I rationalized and reasoned. I watched the skies a little bit longer that day, just to see if any additional military aircraft were flying in pursuit, as I live about 30km from Washington DC. None spotted.

Do I agree that a person without any sort of rational thought process would proclaim "UFO!" after seeing what you saw? Yep, sure do. But those are the types of reports that barely raise my eyebrows at all.

 

[pixelsmith]

I too have seen many UFOs that a few minutes later turned into IFOs. I live in a flight path for large aircraft, a small aircraft/ultralight airport is across the street and a medical helicopter from Mayo Clinic flies over head on a nearly weekly basis. My uncle built small airplanes and we flew a lot, my best friend and I rented Cessna's and flew quite often, I star gaze nearly every night so I am quite familiar with lights in the sky. I have been fooled by what I now think were meteors coming straight at me. They looked like bright stars that got extremely bright then vanished. Once I was excited for a short time about an object that turned out to be the space station. One time I am pretty sure I observed tumbling space junk.

The lights my girlfriend and I saw were attached to an object that was chased out of sight by a small jet. I consider it a UFO. I consider the small jet a IFO. The airport and FAA say neither were in the airspace over my head. To this day, unless it is cloudy, I go out and look up for at least 5 minutes before I go to bed.

 

[Ezechiel]

Here's a guy that spent over 30 years searching for UFO's.... Finally saw one lol

http://sify.com/news/brisbane-man-finally-spots-ufo-after-30yrs-of-waiting-news-international-ki5rEhcbghb.html

Black said he had already spent four weeks of unsuccessful UFO-hunting in Darwin's rural area before he finally came across "something very unexpected" in Humpty Doo.
He described the object as being "amber-coloured" and "shaped like a hamburger, with black dots" and "weird-looking headlights".
"I thought it was a low-flying plane ... suddenly it was straight over my head - I wasn't really expecting what I saw," he stated.
Black said he was enveloped by "dead silence", when the "thing" was above him for about 30 seconds before it "disappeared rapidly".
He said he felt good to have finally spotted a UFO, but was "terribly disappointed" that he was not able to take a picture, as he was too busy staring at the object.
"I had my camera there and everything, but I just stared," he said.
"But I'll be coming back next year. The Territory is the place to see UFOs," he added. (ANI)

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2010/08/31/175931_ntnews.html

Damn ! no photo in Humpty Doo lol

Once you see a couple, you get sucked in. And they are out there - most people just don't look up."

 

[pixelsmith]

Here's a guy that spent over 30 years searching for UFO's.... Finally saw one lol

http://sify.com/news/brisbane-man-finally-spots-ufo-after-30yrs-of-waiting-news-international-ki5rEhcbghb.html

Black said he had already spent four weeks of unsuccessful UFO-hunting in Darwin's rural area before he finally came across "something very unexpected" in Humpty Doo.
He described the object as being "amber-coloured" and "shaped like a hamburger, with black dots" and "weird-looking headlights".
"I thought it was a low-flying plane ... suddenly it was straight over my head - I wasn't really expecting what I saw," he stated.
Black said he was enveloped by "dead silence", when the "thing" was above him for about 30 seconds before it "disappeared rapidly".
He said he felt good to have finally spotted a UFO, but was "terribly disappointed" that he was not able to take a picture, as he was too busy staring at the object.
"I had my camera there and everything, but I just stared," he said.
"But I'll be coming back next year. The Territory is the place to see UFOs," he added. (ANI)

http://www.ntnews.com.au/article/2010/08/31/175931_ntnews.html

Damn ! no photo in Humpty Doo lol

I can totally relate. I kick myself for not having my good camera and fast lens with me for my sighting. The little point and shoot was going to be my trusty carry camera but I had just un boxed it that day or the day before and didnt know how to turn the flash off in time to get a good shot. With the flash on it was too far away to capture an image. When I did get the flash off, it was not stabile enough with the wind blowing sideways to get anything more than a red squiggly line. With the temp and wind factored into a wind chill index, I estimate it was about 35 below zero. When I stopped and got out again was when the jet flew over my head, I was in such awe of the object and the jet being so close to me, I just stared at it so I wouldn't miss it.

This all happened only a few miles away from where I had a missing time episode about a year earlier. I was on my daily route home around 5:30 pm, it was a very clear and warm day. I had to get home, change quick and then head out to another town about 10 miles away to teach my tae kwon do class so I was very aware of the time. It is a simple route home, a straight line for about 9 miles, take a right for about 3 miles and I am home. This particular day I suddenly "woke up" and found myself on a gravel road approximately 4 miles off course. I would have had to stop twice to make 2 turns, and then stop and cross a busy highway, then choose to turn right or left at a "y" in the road to get to where I "woke up". I lost between 20 and 30 minutes of time. I had to drive a mile or so to figure out where I was. I still cannot imagine how that happened. No drugs, no alcohol, no medical problems, it was very very surreal. I am not saying I was abducted at all or that aliens were involved. I just find it interesting that this UFO we saw was initially hovering within a mile or 2 of this location. I have never had another missing time episode nor have I ever seen another UFO.

 

[CapnG]

He said he felt good to have finally spotted a UFO, but was "terribly disappointed" that he was not able to take a picture, as he was too busy staring at the object.
"I had my camera there and everything, but I just stared," he said.

And there's the reality in a nutshell. Skeptics talk about these things as if the natural instinct of a person is to start snapping off pictures like a runway photographer in Milan. Doesn't work that way. When you see something that odd it's stunning. Not in a physical "freeze ray" kind of way or a "telepathic paralysis" kind of way but in genuine, literal "Holy crap, what is that thing!?" kinda way.

When you think about it, it's remarkable that there are any decent UFO photos or films at all.

 

[trainedobserver]

Skeptics talk about these things as if the natural instinct of a person is to start snapping off pictures like a runway photographer in Milan. Doesn't work that way.

High strangeness has that effect on the brain. That's why the military and so forth put such an emphasis on repetitive training so that when something occurs that triggers it you don't think, you just do. You shoot, run, drop, press that button, or whatever without much thought because you've been preconditioned to react without thinking. For example: The average person upon hearing a shot or explosion will stand and look in the direction of the sound. A person of military background will duck or go prone. I have experienced this numerous times in manufacturing situations. Loud bangs and explosions (small ones ok) would send half the crew on the floor and half of us still standing looking for the trouble. All the guys on the floor would be ex-military. I think the average Joe encountering a high strangeness situation "stalls" and doesn't have the muscle memory to snap that picture or what have you. It is perfectly understandable.