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Walter Starcke: What am I missing?


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Still Seeking Samantha
I just skimmed through the link to Walter Starcke's website in anticipation of his appearance on the next Paracast. Maybe I'm missing something, but I'm wondering exactly what Mr. Starcke brings to the table. There doesn't seem to be anything new here: history is littered with legions of individuals such as he who have announced their exciting new break with "traditional morals" or whatever, and a revolutionary new philosophy--in Starcke's formulation, a "'global myth' that will [re]define the future."

Again, what am I missing? What can we expect to learn from Gene and Dave's interview/cross-examination of Mr. Starcke?

Thanks!

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Yup, the same guy.

What's not to understand? Do we need to talk about UFOs every episode?

We had a nice chat with an interesting guy. Make of it what you will. Sometimes, we're going to do episodes that defy your expectations. Walter is a hoot, he's done and seen some interesting things, has had some fascinating friendships, and for the record, I think some of his ideas are compelling. Do I agree with everything he says? No. Are you likely to hear Walter speak on any other show covering our general areas of interest? Perhaps not. Maybe you'll learn something, get a new insight, isn't that worth a shot? Those of you who enjoy our show, do you trust us to try spreading our wings a bit?

You know the best part of this? You can always turn off the show if you find him predictable, or boring, or trite. Wait a week, and voila, a whole new episode will show up, free of charge. Amazing, this Internet thing, isn't it? 8)

dB
 
Let us wait to hear the show before jumping to conclusions about the man. We are open minded i hope.If you dont like what you hear, give your opinions merited or not on the forums.It not my cup of tea either, but i am open to hearing different topics.
 
I agree that what Mr Starcke is saying is not anything new just his slant on what many others have said before. Personally I like listening to and reading stuff like this, it makes me feel better about myself and more hopeful, so I guess I'm slightly biased.

I dont see that he is attempting to make any significant break with traditional moral's
though, more like he's trying to encourage presence of mind perhaps, and a better awareness of what we use and what is using us, his words, and important to be aware of in my opinion.

Just to give you a for instance. I am not bothered if this sounds like a sob story it is the truth.
Throughout my life I have suffered pretty severe bouts of depression. The frequency and duration of these periods though irregular has lessened but I do tend to live with
an ever present anxiety about when that Old Black Dog might turn up again.
I have found my best defence to be, to try not only to be as aware and awake as possible at all times with regard to my own state of mind , meaning keeping a careful watch on very subtle changes in mood that can quickly escalate out of all proportion,
but also by trying to be as positive and absorbed in things that interest me as possible.
Dead time leads me far to easily into introspection, self criticism, general negativity
huh, maybe I will call that my theory.

I think I have paid the price for my own arrogance and some poor decisions I have made in life, so far I can live with that, but in my own little world I can only say that what people like Walter Starcke bring to this world is in some cases very helpful.
I can understand why guys like him might be just one big yawn to many, we've heard it all before I know, but seeing someone actually getting out there and sharing these kind of thoughts is not to much of a surprise to me. It's like when we get shaken up for whatever reason in life, just like a bottle of Coke we do tend to want to gush, if you see what I mean.

Now you can all laugh and point at the hippie. :)

Mark
 
When David told me about Walter I didn't know what to think, other than the fact that he's 89 and amazingly coherent.

But you will listen and I am willing to suggest that most of you will be pleasantly surprised at the end of that two hour session, as I was. He's a great guy, really!
 
Those of you who enjoy our show, do you trust us to try spreading our wings a bit?

Yes, but sometimes you spread them a little too wide and out plops a Goldberg interview :p

Despite this guy already boring me with his "God" slop, I will give you and him the benefit of a doubt. If you say it's not a train wreck then I think we should trust you.
 
I listened to the show and found his philosophy quite refreshing. Most of what he said is not new to me, but it was nice to be reminded of it. I hope I'm as positive about life if I ever reach his age. Although I have doubts/sceptiscm about a number of things he said.

For instance I'm seriously sceptical that this planet is done/finished with war. I see countries like China and India and many others getting seriously tooled up in preperation for a future conflict. And this GWOT (Global War on Terror) could easily escalate into something much more serious.

Like yourself I also have doubts about the usefulness of "The Secret" for somebody living in poverty in India or Africa.

Gene & David, I'm glad that you're broadening out your show recently to talk about peoples lives, ideas and subjective experiences. I feel that the nuts and bolts ufo cases can only take us so far and that there is a lot that can be gleaned from hearing peoples subjective bizarre/wierd experiences and about there views/philosophy on the paranormal/nature of reality/existence.

Overall, a very enjoyable show. Thanks.
 
This is hands down the most enlightening interview Gene and Dave have presented in some time. Walter Starke presents his views quite clearly. What I don't understand, is some of the previous posts. "God slop?" What gives with that comment? I know I get a bit tired of hearing about UFO's each week, and besides, the program is called "the Paracast" after all. I look forward to hearing Walter speak again on the show. Well done, guys!
 
I'm 1h:06m in so far and yeah, while his ideas should be approached (as any should!) with careful consideration, thought, and not blind devotion, this is definitely one of the most refreshing and, yes, positive mystics I've heard about in recent years.

I do love me some UFOlogy but something different is great and this guy is a catch. Thanks guys.

--Shawn
 
I laughed out loud at "Sometimes, we gotta get spanked!"

I liked the change of pace. Although I don't think I'd enjoy shows like this as a staple, I feel it does everyone good to take a break every now and then ("Roswell Roswell Roswell Roswell Roswell Roswell Roswell Roswell Roswell")

David's open-mindedness and willingness to question some of his own attitudes surprised me. Great discussion!
 
I have heard about such topic's from my brother in the past, he actually has the video of the secret " The Law of Attraction" it goes into many areas were positive thinking in your life will help you fulfill your needs and wants.If you believe and see yourself as a ninety years old and healthy. The rule, the law of attraction, will help you get to that age, you just have to believe and never dis'believe that will be the case. If you are of a materialistic nature, the law of attraction can help you. You just have to see yourself liveing that life of abundance, picture it and believe you have it already.

'Walter is an interesting person and his appetite for life is contentious. I do sometimes believe positive thinking has benefits, all the negative thinking we do everyday life, does indeed give way to negative effects to our physical body. Depression and anxiety, in many ways are examples of such negative thinking, of course underlineing issues usually trigger depression and anxiety, but with some cases, the person does not fully understand why they have been suffering from such mental disease's.

I do disagree, with Walter that wars will never happen again. The Human, some humans will always have the need to have power or be in position of control. Wars usually result from the that need. The Religions of the earth not all, mind you, have been the cause of many wars for centuries, you could even go back even further than the Romans to see how wars were fought just because of religion.
The crusades, is a perfect example of a war that cost so many lives, were today, present day in the middle east, the conflict seems to mirror that once brutal conflict, yet different in many way's.West vs East, the Preception with middle eastern society, is that Christian religions are trying to change their beliefs, this gave way to groups like "Al QAEDA" christian invaders in their lands(saudi arabia) is a simplistic view given by researchers for why al queda attacked America, their is many under underlineing issues for the attacks.

There is definately a real threat with Iran. Yes, some countries are entitled to have Nuclear power, if it is needed. Iran at this stage of their evolution have many problems socially and politically, so prevention is needed to stop them haveing such technology.Iran and Isreal will go to war, Iran if it gained the N-Bomb" will change the outlook of the middle east, that will not be accepted by Isreal at any cost, so war could be unavoidable.It is an alarmest argument, but threats from leaders of a foreign power can not be discounted as simple power playing, we have to learn from the mistakes we have made in the past.Many people, are alarmed were Russia seems to be involved with Iran helping them build nuclear power stations and provideing weapons and even provideing personal. Scare-mongering ok, but facts are reality.

Humans will have wars, our history has always involved conflict, the future is the future that time has not arrived, so assumeing no wars will occur is conflicting to what we no about human history.

The Euro, came up in the show. I think as a person who has been spenting and buying with the euro for a number of years, i believe it has given rise to greed amongest industrial players who sell goods to the shops and than on to the customer market. Everything from gas,rent,shopping, cars, houses you name it has risen because of the euro. It, is a business currency, Profit was the whole aim of the euro.Prices have gone out of control ever since the introduction of the euro into society. Yes, some benefits arose from the currency, e.g( easier to trade in european markets), but they are nominal.
 
I've been absent from the Paracast forums for about a year, but I was so impressed with Mr. Starcke that I felt compelled to come back and comment.

A lot of what Walter Starcke said is not new, but I was particularly impressed by his discussion of objective vs. subjective thoughts and reality, his body down through time, gnostic thought and it's reemergance, etc.

If there was one thing that I couldn't wrap my brain around, it was explanation about individuals and the exploding star example that David made.

All in all, I found the philosophy he expounded on very coherant and with a lot of merit.
 
I think Walter just faltered because he's old enough to falter sometimes.

My guess for his real answer at the time was that if one remembers he's infinite in nature, the exploding star is no different than a train wreck. Things happen for which we have no reason. It doesn't change who we are, spiritual beings who live on in some manner.

I liked the interview a lot. Happen to agree with most of what he says though I'm terrible at utilizing even the most innate concepts. Guess that's what makes for an interesting life, if not the ideal life.

I'd love to be able to giggle like he does at absurdities rather than take them on personally. His giggle is infectious and his joy very apparent.
 
Another great episode. There was a lot of food for thought and if you were to take nothing else from the episode, at the very least no one can argue that a well used mind stays in good health, if i'm that sharp at 60 let alone 89 i'd count my blessings.

Yeah, there were a few hints of some trademark American blinkers on, what little there was of that, it is a very small price to pay considering the large amount of facinating insights he put forward.
 
I have so many issues with some of the thoughts in this show, it's simply too much to go into. I also realize I am in outcast here in this way of thinking, the oddball out.

But there was a lot of this new agey crap for one thing. Think it, and you can make it so. Really? This is the Paracast, you can't even hear a signal in that noise. That would be truly paranormal...make me a pony.

And for the idea that socialism is a good idea, yeah in a perfect world where everyone had good intentions and wanted man to be free, the Star Trek universe maybe. But in this current world you can't possibly be for it. Would it be good if Iran or China was the new world leader? They don't want freedom and democracy like we are lucky enough to have here. It would be great if they did.

It would also be great if all humans wanted to really be productive members of society, but they don't. Do they really deserve to benefit from hard working people's labor while they sit and have kids and watch Soaps all day?

Until those things are fixed, socialism is not a good idea. And neither is big government, there is complete corruption on both sides of the fence.

Oh, if only scientists were in control instead of politicians...one can dream.
 
And for the idea that socialism is a good idea, yeah in a perfect world where everyone had good intentions and wanted man to be free, the Star Trek universe maybe. But in this current world you can't possibly be for it. Would it be good if Iran or China was the new world leader? They don't want freedom and democracy like we are lucky enough to have here. It would be great if they did.

What about if Sweden were in charge? Socialism != Totalitarianism, you see. I guess the point I'm trying to make by saying that is that yes, it can work but only if it's done right. And there are quite frankly entirely too many people with a vested interest (read: money) in making sure that never happens. So it doesn't.

Oh, if only scientists were in control instead of politicians...one can dream.

If you asked you'd probably find large numbers of scientists aping for a socialist society but that's because scientists DO stuff and like most humans, probably tend to assume other people are like themselves.

I enjoyed this episode. A little out of left field but insightful and conversant. I do take issue with the whole "I am an immortal conciousness" thing though. I'm sure we'd all like to believe that but it's based on the supposition that conciousness is a supplement to having a brain and not a consequence of one (ie that it is illusiary). Obviously I don't subscribe to that notion.

And never mind the poo-poo David! Everyone needs a break from UFOs once in a while and we were about due. I for one didn't mind it a bit.

One last thought; given his predeliction for a united world, I'm thinking cue pixelsmith and/or cottonzway with an NWO rant in 3...2...1...
 
I really liked this guy. It just feels good to listen to him talk IMO.

Sometimes you get the feeling with aged people that if you just listen to what they have to say and apply it that youll be in a better place. That they have done the hard word to develop these philosophies over their life and their offering you a 'freebie'.

Sometimes the only way to learn a lesson is to live it though.
 
I thought this was a great show. He wasn't saying anything new, at least if you have studied metaphysics, but he never said it was new ideas.

One thing, David, at the end you mentioned "Christian Science", but he was talking about "Religious Science" also known as "Science of Mind". This was started by Ernest Holmes in the 1920's. A lot of the "new thought" spiritual centers are Religious Science based. Some of the contributors would include Ralph Waldo Emerson, Louise Hay, and Michael Beckwith.

My wife and I are actually members of a Religious Science center. I don't care for Holmes writings myself, as they are too religious and Christian based.

Some of the ideas he talked about I have mentioned in some of my posts, though I hadn't heard of Mr. Starcke before.
 
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