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Walter Starcke: What am I missing?

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so i havent had time to read any of therse posts, but i would just like to say i really enjoyed this show. I think we need a few more shows on such topics, and would love to bring back Bernard Haisch.
Also enjoyed Walter letting us know about his meditation, its something I have done for a while now and wbably write a Q&A on it here sometime as it is one of the best things I have discovered in my life.
 
Blacknight said:
...I know many senior corporate executives, and count many as friends. I know first hand and in great detail how Boards and senior management work. And I know that, with few exceptions, they are hard working, honest folks who take their responsibilities to shareholders and employees very seriously....

As for Goldman Sachs, let me remind you that Goldman has already repaid its TARP loans (over the Obama Adminsitration's objections!!!), with dividends, and it repurchased its government warrants for another $1.1B. TAXPAYERS GOT AN ANNUALIZED RETURN OF 23% ON THE GOLDMAN INVESTMENT. If anyone got dragged over the coals it was Goldman not the government.

...Our problems are driven entirely by the men and women in power, who ignore their oaths of office and respond to what best serves their own ambitions. The situation will never resolve as long as people focus on shadows on the wall. If Americans voted for statesmen, who came into office to faithfully represent a contituency for a short period, we'd be a better country and a stronger people. As long as we allow politicians to manipulate us into being "fans" rather than thinking, independent-minded voters and taxpayers we'll have more of the same.

And I continue to digress. Sorry!
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well, if you are speaking plainly, and truthfully, then that makes a heck of a lot more sense than multiple consipiracies which require huge eniacs to keep track of the maze of duplicitous red herrings laid out for us simpletons to follow...
I digress.

Thanks Blacknight for an opinion from the other side. I do not trust politicians, nor do I trust big business, but of the two, business is there to make money, and if they pee off too many people, they make no money. Politicians don't care who they pee off, because all they have to do before an election is throw our tax dollars back at us and we forget. Unless, of course, they look silly. In that case, we turf 'em, cause God forbid we should have anybody running our countries who doesn't look good, eh?:D
 
I thought this was a thought provoking show and appreciate the discussion. Starcke seems like a very open-minded man who has such a positive attitude about life. Since he already did many other drugs in his time, I could excuse him for smoking Obama's Hopium. :D
 
David Biedny said:
I'm pretty much right there with you, cotton. Anyone who's ever listened to Angry Human knows how I feel about Obama - while I detested Bush, and didn't think much about McCain and The Bimbo, I've not been much of a fan of Obama, and his policies, words and actions have played out largely how I feared they would. Folks need to understand that democracy is the last thing that's currently playing out in the U.S. I tend to refer to it as corporate feudalism. Thanks for that post.
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I think there's something people are always over looking in regards to Obama. The rest of the world loves the guy and the first lady. There was Obama-mania in France when they went to visit. That's not a bad thing after 8 years with someone the world disliked. It paints the US in a better light than it had been since Clinton, as far as popularity.

Obama has a hard job ahead of him. I didn't know much about him, but he has done quite a few good things before he ran for president. I honestly think he has his heart in the right place, while being cognizant of what he can and cannot do in office.

Often our elections are voting for the lesser of two evils. I think Obama is OK, and I think it's about time we had a non white person in office. As a white person married to an African American women, I can tell you that he has made a lot of Americans feel like they count for something, and all my in-laws really felt this would never have happened in their lifetime.

So sometimes you have to look beyond the obvious politics to see how someone can be doing more good than you might have thought. Can he fix the economy? Probably not, but then what one person would have been abel to?
 
Miah said:
Me personally, I wish we would stop electing politicians to run our government, and start putting scientists and geniuses in power instead. I hate that we elect based on a majority of people voting for who they like the best, and who speaks better at a debate, or who promises the most people the most freebies...
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I can see your point here. Personally, I think while it would come at a cost, a lot of balance would be restored if we could somehow limit government and corporations to a community level and possibly implement a population cap on these communities.
 
Once corporations were granted the same rights as individual citizens, it was game over as far as actual individuals go - the herd mentality with a bottom line, legal protections and no soul is a dangerous beast. Corporations are an abstraction that allows ultimate greed to breed, happy and ready to slash and burn at will, with zero concern for long-term repercussions, ones we're facing right now. Classical economic theory has never taken the planet into consideration, it ignores the Earth as a closed-loop system and dooms us to self-destruction. Materialism might be fun for some, but in the long run, it will destroy the society, maybe even the race, leaving something almost unimaginable and deeply upsetting. Maybe that's what the planet is trying to tell us, with some of the accounts we've heard in abduction literature, thinking that we might sooner buy the notion of aliens trying to save us, than our own planet trying to make it's continuance less stressful. Who the fuck knows.

Obama is a marketing campaign, and while I don't think he's anywhere near as downright sleazy as the Bush and that whole clan, he's just another figurehead, meant to continue policies beneficial to corporations - not you, not me, not anyone outside of shareholders and a few inside players. I know I sound like a socialist, I suppose I'm a terrible capitalist and businessman, but my macro view regarding the way that American politics is playing out, is sadly close to that of more extreme advocates like Alex Jones. This empire is in decline, whether you like it or not, so let's move past that to a discussion of how it's going to play out, and how to minimize the rocky road ahead. The entire country is already underwater, and anyone praying for some miraculous recovery in the near future, well, hope that works out, but I'm not going to bet on it.

Oh, and to stay on thread, I personally found Starcke to be an interesting, genuine person, unlike many of the others who share many of his views, but who come across as more crass, perhaps less sincere. Some of you found his thoughts to be somewhat derivative, well, how many folks in any field are writing and saying anything you haven't already heard before? For me, it was an enjoyable couple of hours, I have a hard time listening to any of our episodes after the fact (and rarely do), but I've given this one another spin, and liked it. Perhaps the Devil is under the details...

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Blacknight said:
I was quite skeptical well before the show aired. 10 minutes in my skepticism was confirmed, in capital letters. Fortunately. I always feel free to exercise the alternative David noted was available and I tuned out after 15 minutes. I've had my monthly quota of gibberish listening to the crap around the healthcare debacle.
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It's interesting that you would even take the time to comment on how you didn't like the 2 hour episode having only listened to 10 minutes of it. It surely wasn't about healthcare. Be honest, you dismissed it before you even listened to a few minutes right?? Thats fine, but why even comment if you didn't listen to it??

I can't quite put my finger on it, but I left this episode actually feeling good. I did identify with some of what Walter was saying. He wasn't pushing anything on you, he was just talking genuinely about his experience and his philosophy. I found it refreshing and useful. Perhaps I just had my woo on that day, but sometimes hearing someone talk about this kind of stuff is just good for the "soul". I could take bits and pieces and apply them to my life. A different perspective, a different vantage point, is sometimes worth hearing out. I thought he was a great guest, nice find David. Thanks.
 
TClaeys said:
It's interesting that you would even take the time to comment on how you didn't like the 2 hour episode having only listened to 10 minutes of it. It surely wasn't about healthcare. Be honest, you dismissed it before you even listened to a few minutes right?? Thats fine, but why even comment if you didn't listen to it??
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Exactly. I didn't agree with everything Walter said, but there was a lot of good stuff in there to make you think. I think it's a good idea to have your beliefs challenged on a daily basis. It enables you to look at things from a different perspective.

And if it were up to Walter, I'd actually have some health insurance right now!
 
um, just to stick my nose in here, the comment about healthcare actually says the quota for gibberish was reached and exceeded while listening to the healthcare discussions, NOT that the podcast concerned healthcare.
He just said he has no more room to allow more gibberish in and he considers the Starcke interview gibberish, ergo, no go...

Just so we're clear, that is ;)
 
AnnetteMarie said:
um, just to stick my nose in here, the comment about healthcare actually says the quota for gibberish was reached and exceeded while listening to the healthcare discussions, NOT that the podcast concerned healthcare.
He just said he has no more room to allow more gibberish in and he considers the Starcke interview gibberish, ergo, no go...

Just so we're clear, that is ;)
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Ahhhh. Sorry about that. Knew I was probably missing something there. Wouldn't be the first time. Still, 10 minutes to make your mind up about an entire episode?? To each his own.
 
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