James Carlson can foam at the mouth all he wishes. I have Col. Figel on tape (James does not) and Figel contradicts virtually everything James claims. I am working on an article, to be posted at UFO Chronicles, which will have links to the actual audiotaped conversations I had with Figel. Bob Salas has Figel on tape too and that tape will be accessible in the article as well. Among other things, Figel agrees with Salas that James is "off-the-wall."
I won't be responding further to James or anyone else on this thread until my article is finished. In the interim, here is my previous response to one of his rants. Because of the length limitation on posts, I have had to truncate the article with BREAKS. The full article is at:
http://www.theufochronicles.com/2008/12/did-ufos-cause-shutdown-of-icbms-at.html
And then he quotes again that ridiculous transcript that Figel himself has disposed of. I appreciate it, Robert, that once again you talk more about me than the fact that Figel very publically dismissed your claims over four months ago.
Yeah, people keep talking about that interview 2 years ago, but you keep missing all the bits where Col. Figel talks about the absence of a UFO investigation, his certainty that UFOs were not involved, and the very extensive investigation that only mentioned UFO once because of the rumors started by a NICAP investigator who couldn't even get the date right. The whole world missed the comments posted earlier that discuss Hastings' complete misinterpretation of that interview above -- the one that shows how incompetent Hastings actually is when it comes to reaching a conclusion based on what other people have said. The only two people who were at Echo Flight on March 16, 1967 are adamant that no UFOs were anywhere around. There was no UFO investigation, even though it was required by the USAF to investigate such things whenever they're reported. FTD, who would have been in charge of the investigation if UFOs were involved, weren't even notified as INFO only that Echo Flight went down, and everything about Echo Flight was only classified SECRET, which would have been illegal, forcing the DoD to bring charges against the commanding officer for not properly classifying TOP SECRET a foreign attack on a nuclear missile command in the sovereign territory of the U.S. There is nothing about this whole case that says "UFO" except Salas' and Hastings' very real and very dishonest assertions made in order to earn a buck. They didn't even FLASH the initial report to Wright-Patterson -- how can that possibly be related to a UFO? The biggest problem with the case made by Hastings and Salas is that they've ignored entirely most of the evidence. There are 80-pages of FOIA documents they've refused to discuss because they don't talk about UFOs. It seems a lot of people want to ignore it. And the biggest flaw in every witness that Hastings has EVER presented regarding Echo Flight, is that NONE of them can name a single witness to the events -- not even themsleves! They all talk about something they heard at the barracks, or something they overheard on a radio in the next room, or something that was discussed near enough for them to hear, but they can't name who said what where, the people themselves have never come forward, and most of the time, they don't even know the date or location in reference to the event itself! It's the most pathetic collection of "almost saw something" testimony ever gathered in relation to a single incident. Nobody can even
name a person who actually SAW a UFO. Do you guys seriously consider this trustworthy testimony? Hastings has one witness who claims that all of the VRSA indications were broken -- that there were no results at the LFs, and that they couldn't determine what was wrong, while other witnesses are very positive that when the missile status was checked VRSA 9 errors were noted. That's a conflict that just can't be reconciled. One of those two witnesses HAS to be wrong, and yet, Hastings claims that they are BOTH right. That's just impossible. Those are two very definite accounts, and each one suggests something incredibly important to the interpretation of this entire incident, and Hastings claims that they are both right. When two people check VRSA and one says there's a channel 9 error and the other says none of the VRSA was working properly, how exactly can they both be right? Hastings analysis of this incident is completely incompetent. And he dismisses this with an insistence that
I'm "highly disturbed" and deserve your pity. It would be nice if just once someone who supported Hastings' and Salas' version of these events was able to discuss the actual evidence they've presented -- but I don't think that will ever happen.
Why hasn't Hastings said anything about Figel's most recent testimony asserting that nothing happended at Oscar Flight, that he doesn't believe in UFOs, that he told all of this to Hastings who ignored him, and that his book is full of errors? Why is the only testimony of Figel's that he's willing to discuss recorded by him in 2008? Why hasn't Hastings ever told anybody that the first person to mention a UFO in the transripts above was 6-10 feet underground at the time he was saying "I think I see a UFO right now"? How come the security rep with the 2-way radio on which he had already established comms with Figel and my father and who was on the surface didn't mention the UFO first, even though their primary mission was to look after the security of the maintenance personnel, who were busy for a good half hour just opening the access hatch so they could get underground and check the status of the missile? Why didn't the security personnel see anything when the missiles first went offline at 0845, since they were awake, while the maintenance personnel were still asleep? Security never reported seeing a UFO -- only the maintenance guy 6-10 feet underground at the time, saying "I can see one now". There's nothing about Figel's testimony that says there was a real UFO, and Figel agrees with that, insisting that Hastings "got it all wrong". But Hastings doesn't want to discuss that -- he just wants to discuss my supposed mental illness and not the evidence. It's no wonder he had to pay to publish his own book -- it's a pathetic indictment of his own inability to analyze a relatively simple case. 30-years of "study" apparently did nothing to help him with that. But he learned admirably well how to slander another man, to destroy a good man's reputation and call him a liar simply because he refuses to say "yes, there was UFO that took out Echo Flight the morning of March 16, 1967 when I was the commander there." He learned how to slant another man's testimony to make it look like a foolish joke from a guy who was asleep when anything important actually happened was really a valid report of a UFO that he could see clearly from a little room about 8 feet underground. Everything about this case screams bullshit, but Hastings wouldn't notice it or tell you if he did, because he's trying to sell it to the world. And he and Salas are doing so on the ruined reputations of better men than themselves, so I shouldn't be so surprised that their very first strategic move to counter all the problems in their case that I've highlighted is not to discuss their evidence or the evidence I've produced, but to attack me and my reputation -- Hell, it's a family affair now. You're a pathetic joke, Robert, and I'm slowly getting people to see that. Figel announced that you were a fraud over four months ago -- why are still dredging up your pathetic interview with him in 2008?
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