I seen this pre hype before. .from rick dyer. ..
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I was just listening to this, trying to get a feel on shmitt and carey....to me it doesn't sound like they were in on a hoax, it sounds like they are and still are trying to connect dots, if any...roswell slides | Podcast UFOI've withheld my input from this thread. .. but i have been lurking...because I've nothing to add to the discussion, I'm very skeptical about the whole "event" and i am even sick and tired of hearing about Roswell BUT if what issackoi says is true then the next time anyone here gripes about cousins or even meier I'm going to friend/follow you just to unfriend/follow you. They are all swimming in the same pond except maybe some are keeping a sense of humor about it, a little nudge nudge wink wink.
I have no way of knowing how 'they' work, but I wonder whether we can refer to 'they' as acting in concert in these last few weeks. Carey and Schmitt seem to be remaining in the background, and the people we're hearing from -- Mausson and Dew -- seem to be acting as relatively free agents in what they're presenting (Mausson to advertise the May 5 event and sell tickets to it and Dew to perhaps use this opportunity to advertise his skills and business in Chicago). It's possible that C and S would prefer not to see advance advertising of these kinds, but have no control over it or do not wish to exercise control. After all, both Mausson and Dew are tangential associates and have their own interests to pursue. Notably, these recent 'advertisements' haven't done C and S's reputations any good, or promoted their research on the slides effectively.I am very concerned that they are trying much, much too hard to sell this thing ahead of the event. I'm not feeling warm and fuzzy about it, but am willing to hold off my final judgement until it happens — if it happens.
I'd missed the fact, if it is a fact, that the camera used to obtain the slides (and also unused slide film from 1947) were recovered by the people managing the disposition of the Rays' belongings. But David Rudiak's posts (at KR's site), argue persuasively that kodachrome slide film manufactured in '47-'48 and exposed in recent years to produce a hoax could not produce the clarity of the images fixed in the slides.Provenance. That is the key with anything like this. A house is cleared that contains slides such as what is described, but it also contains unused film from circa 1947 and the associated camera which was the same used to take the other slides with. Now imagine someone using this camera and old film to take fake photo's such as these 'slides'. Can it be done? My suspicions rest with the fact the couple who owned the camera and slides are no longer with us, if it is proved to be fake I think its disgusting that deceased people with no descendants have been used to help promote a fake to make money and will set back serious UFO research even further.
i would HOPE if Mr. Dew is earnest that he/they were able to dismiss these possibilities first before going down the Roswell entity road.
A post at KR's site by Anthony Bragalia today:
"A private antiquities auctioneer -even an 'underground' one- would display his ill-gotten wares in a more attractive way to entice sale. This set-up is 'raw' and the green cloth does match military-like blanket cloth of the time. The sparse, drab room in which the creature is shown does not look like someone's home or a museum- it looks government-plain. And I doubt that Hilda Ray would risk her license to practice law to attend a shady showing of a hydrocephalac or mummy.
Rather than 'private auction' I believe that this is a 'private viewing' of a creature recently deceased, partially autopsied, and preserved.
I believe that a partial 'field autopsy' was conducted. They did not have ice or dry ice out in the desert to preserve the corpses. A field autopsy is conducted when time is of the essence. The action of predators and necrosis and the need to dissect before decomposition drove them to gut the torso and abdominal cavities. Field autopsies are often conducted in the natural world when investigating fish die-off, herd death, etc.
This creature came to grief in an accident. An eye is missing as if poked out and its head is severed at the neck. Decapitation and eye injury are not uncommon in air crashes.
Some select individuals were permitted by military to view a temporary set-up of the displayed being or beings and make independent observations before the beings were transported off to other locations for further study and more secure, permanent storage."
The last paragraph is, or might be, speculation, but not unreasonable speculation given the number of military brass that flew to Roswell the day after the press release was issued from Roswell AFB. One or more scientists were likely called over from Los Alamos as well. It would make sense if a room or space were set up for the viewing of one of the recovered bodies (from, I gather, two different locations in the desert). We'll probably be able to discern more about the location of the exhibit once the actual slides are made available.
There may be someone here who is bilingual that is able to truncate the podcast. If not, I guess one of us will have to learn Spanish unless a transcript was available.How's your Spanish? I'm hoping someone can transcribe the remarks by Jaime Maussan about Tony Bragalia made at 7:29 in this interview:
Javier Sierra y Jaime Maussan - Novedades en el caso Roswell. en mp3 (16/02 a las 03:35:28) 30:47 4086860 - iVoox
Am I hearing something about indiscretion?