January 14, 2018 — Walter Bosley with Alejandro Rojas

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Magic, Or Math? The Appeal Of Coincidences, And The Reality

 

[mike]

But frankly everything seems to point to a far simpler, even mundane explanation:

In fact it baffles me that anyone can hear these people talk and answer questions, and come away suspicious.

It’s like the saying goes “when you hear hoofbeats, think of horses not zebras.” People looking for conspiracies all the time are out of their effing minds. Give it a rest already. Or at least offer an actual argument with some kind of supporting evidence.

I’m speaking generally here, not attacking Walter – he was very clear that he was just presenting a hypothetical scenario based on his professional experience. But of course, when you’re a carpenter everything looks like a nail, as they say.

I just can’t find a whisper of evidence that this is, in fact, some kind of covert operation. Or even an intelligible hypothesis for the motivation behind such a thing in this case. And I’m kind of fed up with the online conspiracy theorists rushing to be the first in line to make something sinister from everything that happens.

Walter has his own theory.

Walter Bosley explains that humanity has never been alone. Deep underground, a parallel civilization has long thrived, separate from surface dwelling populaces which have been guided by the guileful hands of two opposing forces of the Annunaki. As the ages passed, tales of these civilizations became mere legend and fantasy. But when spacefaring technology was secretly developed in the early 20th century, we got their attention, once again. Now, the old ones have returned and a delicate game of exopolitics is being played out within secret organizations within the governments of the world.

Modern pseudohistory


Pseudohistorian Zecharia Sitchin posing with an enlarged photograph of a Sumerian cylinder seal impression
Main article: Zecharia Sitchin
In his 1976 book The Twelfth Planet, Russian-American author Zecharia Sitchin claimed that the Anunnaki were actually a race of extraterrestrial beings from the undiscovered planet Nibiru, who came to Earth around 500,000 years ago in order to mine gold.[50][51][52] According to Sitchin, the Anunnaki genetically engineered homo erectus to create modern humans to work as their slaves[50][51][52] and built all the major monuments of the ancient world, including the Egyptian pyramids.[50][53] Sitchin claimed that the Anunnaki were forced to leave Earth when Antarctic glaciers melted, causing the Flood of Noah,[54] which also destroyed all evidence of the Anunnaki's bases on Earth.[54] Sitchin expanded on this mythology in later works, including The Stairway to Heaven (1980) and The Wars of Gods and Men (1985).[53] In The End of Days: Armageddon and the Prophecy of the Return (2007), Sitchin predicted that the Anunnaki would return to earth, possibly as soon as 2012, corresponding to the end of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar.[53][52]

Sitchin's writings have been universally rejected by mainstream historians, who have labelled his books as pseudohistory,[55] pointing out that Sitchin seemingly deliberately misrepresents Sumerian texts by quoting them out of context, truncating quotations, and mistranslating Sumerian words to give them radically different meanings from their accepted definitions.[56] Nonetheless, because Sitchin worked in the shadow of Erich von Däniken's more widely publicized Chariots of the Gods?, he managed to escape the notice of debunkers,[50][52] allowing his theories to become more influential.[52] Sitchin claimed that the Anunnaki had left behind human-alien hybrids;[51][52] conspiracy theorist David Icke expanded on this by claiming that these surviving bloodlines were the "Brotherhood of Babylon",[52] a race of shape-shifting, reptilian aliens who secretly control all the governments of the world and keep humans enslaved,[52] using the Illuminati as one of their chess pieces.[52]


Personally i think its just another brand of pseudo-history, With no real evidence to support it.
I think a lot of his reactions stem from the fact that his opinions have for him, become facts.

The mythology has become real history in his minds eye. Its become a dogma for him and any challenge to it must be defended by any means possible.

I don't know is the most honest answer we have in this genre, But for walter hes satisfied himself that he does know, as per the quote above.

 

[pigfarmer]

HAH ! More incomprehensible synchronicity.

As I started to read your linked article I saw "... or meet someone at a party in Paris, only to discover she lives in your dad's childhood home in Poughkeepsie, N.Y." I live in the next town over. I could walk there from here. Went shopping there earlier today. Since this is a global forum, well.... dang.

It's like me recently reading a book about Napoleon and while doing so receiving several days of robo-calls from Austerlitz and Waterloo, NY. Done with the book . Never got another call. WTF?

I'll check out the program you linked. Right now I am going to hide under the bed.

 

[Walter Bosley]

Hey Mikey, you should know that I didn't write that paragraph. The writer of it is clearly paraphrasing things I've said within a context they favor. For example, I don't use the word 'exopolitics'. And for starters it refers to me in the third person from the beginning. So your lengthy attempt to equate me with the Sitchin crowd is quite misleading to force me into a context that you favor.

Walter has his own theory.



Modern pseudohistory


Pseudohistorian Zecharia Sitchin posing with an enlarged photograph of a Sumerian cylinder seal impression
Main article: Zecharia Sitchin
In his 1976 book The Twelfth Planet, Russian-American author Zecharia Sitchin claimed that the Anunnaki were actually a race of extraterrestrial beings from the undiscovered planet Nibiru, who came to Earth around 500,000 years ago in order to mine gold.[50][51][52] According to Sitchin, the Anunnaki genetically engineered homo erectus to create modern humans to work as their slaves[50][51][52] and built all the major monuments of the ancient world, including the Egyptian pyramids.[50][53] Sitchin claimed that the Anunnaki were forced to leave Earth when Antarctic glaciers melted, causing the Flood of Noah,[54] which also destroyed all evidence of the Anunnaki's bases on Earth.[54] Sitchin expanded on this mythology in later works, including The Stairway to Heaven (1980) and The Wars of Gods and Men (1985).[53] In The End of Days: Armageddon and the Prophecy of the Return (2007), Sitchin predicted that the Anunnaki would return to earth, possibly as soon as 2012, corresponding to the end of the Mesoamerican Long Count calendar.[53][52]

Sitchin's writings have been universally rejected by mainstream historians, who have labelled his books as pseudohistory,[55] pointing out that Sitchin seemingly deliberately misrepresents Sumerian texts by quoting them out of context, truncating quotations, and mistranslating Sumerian words to give them radically different meanings from their accepted definitions.[56] Nonetheless, because Sitchin worked in the shadow of Erich von Däniken's more widely publicized Chariots of the Gods?, he managed to escape the notice of debunkers,[50][52] allowing his theories to become more influential.[52] Sitchin claimed that the Anunnaki had left behind human-alien hybrids;[51][52] conspiracy theorist David Icke expanded on this by claiming that these surviving bloodlines were the "Brotherhood of Babylon",[52] a race of shape-shifting, reptilian aliens who secretly control all the governments of the world and keep humans enslaved,[52] using the Illuminati as one of their chess pieces.[52]


Personally i think its just another brand of pseudo-history, With no real evidence to support it.
I think a lot of his reactions stem from the fact that his opinions have for him, become facts.

The mythology has become real history in his minds eye. Its become a dogma for him and any challenge to it must be defended by any means possible.

I don't know is the most honest answer we have in this genre, But for walter hes satisfied himself that he does know, as per the quote above.

 

[mike]

About WALTER BOSLEY

Publisher of classic and gothic adventure, steampunk, science fiction, noir thrillers and non-fiction

None the less Walt, You have written a number of books on breakaway civilizations, are they science fiction or non fiction ?

If they are non fiction then that quote albeit written by a third party does typify your worldview.

Regardless of who wrote it lets break it down.

Walter Bosley explains that humanity has never been alone.

True or not true in your opinion. ?

Deep underground, a parallel civilization has long thrived, separate from surface dwelling populaces which have been guided by the guileful hands of two opposing forces of the Annunaki

True or not true in your opinion.?

When spacefaring technology was secretly developed in the early 20th century, we got their attention, once again.

True or not true in your opinion.?

Personally i think the its just a hypothesis based on your professional opinion caveat is a hedge, You get to present your (psuedo history) opinions as fact, but can use that caveat to dodge the inevitable wheres your evidence question that must accompany any extraordinary claim.

 

[Walter Bosley]

Mikey,

Why do you have such a boner about what I hypothesize?

You act like I denied writing what I write. I said boxing me in with Sitchin isn't accurate. And your lazy cheap shot about the 'fiction/nonfiction' thing is a slur that's been around a while and one which I laugh off. My stuff is pretty clear which is which. But it shouldn't matter to you because you simply don't have to read it.

Regarding your questions, what do you think this forum is? An interrogation? Your questions and the obvious answers (not the spins you put on them) are in no way some damning thing for anyone but those who are already in your echo chamber.

You are no authority on anything. You're a guy in a forum who has ingratiated himself with the hosts; I get that. And there's a clique here positioning itself to dominate as much of the conversation as possible. But think about it, for all the insults you level my way, you are nothing but just another guy with an hypothesis of his own about something that really doesn't matter in most people's day to day lives. I can admit that much to myself. Can you?

How about you answering some questions about what you do? Why are you here? What's your dog in the race? What makes what you think more respectable or authoritative than what I or anyone else here thinks? I'm only on because Gene or Chris ask me to be on. That's the way it works. If you took a poll and the majority of listeners no longer wanted them to ask me, then I wouldn't be here. It's that simple, lol. I have enjoyed being on most of the time, so I appreciate being asked. But if no one here wanted to hear me, oh well. There are other shows that do. Perhaps you should discuss with Gene and Chris about the issue you have with some of their guests and let them work that out with you and the listeners. Maybe they'll hand the show over to you and your buds.

Anyway, your issue with me is your own. Just don't listen when I'm on, Mikey.

About WALTER BOSLEY

Publisher of classic and gothic adventure, steampunk, science fiction, noir thrillers and non-fiction

None the less Walt, You have written a number of books on breakaway civilizations, are they science fiction or non fiction ?

If they are non fiction then that quote albeit written by a third party does typify your worldview.

Regardless of who wrote it lets break it down.

Walter Bosley explains that humanity has never been alone.

True or not true in your opinion. ?

Deep underground, a parallel civilization has long thrived, separate from surface dwelling populaces which have been guided by the guileful hands of two opposing forces of the Annunaki

True or not true in your opinion.?

When spacefaring technology was secretly developed in the early 20th century, we got their attention, once again.

True or not true in your opinion.?

Personally i think the its just a hypothesis based on your professional opinion caveat is a hedge, You get to present your (psuedo history) opinions as fact, but can use that caveat to dodge the inevitable wheres your evidence question that must accompany any extraordinary claim.

 

[mike]

You are no authority on anything. You're a guy in a forum

Bit of transference here methinks Walt.

Ive been looking into you today, and there is this recuuring theme, "Im an expert because .......

Hey ufology, as a matter of fact Don Ecker, Greg Bishop and the late Kevin Smith were all sent my credentials: DD214 and a pay stub from the FBI. Skeptic hero Lance Moody also received a copy of my DD214. If you have any further questions about my employment, you may contact AFOSI headquarters. My last commander was LtCol James McDonough, AFOSI Detachment 101, WPAFB. My badge number was 1911. My first OSI commander was Richard Smith, LA AFB, Detachment 110. I am a Captain, USAF Reserve, Inactive. My commissioning date was 19 Nov 1993. My FTO was Capt John Anderson. My partner in Los Angeles was SA James Martin, AFOSI (Capt USAF). I did not have a partner, as such, at WPAFB, because I was Chief of the Counterespionage Operations Branch, Det 101 -- except those 179 days I was deployed to the AFOSI detachment of the 4404 WING at Prince Sultan AB, Al Kharj, KSA. While there, my first detco was SA Steve Runyan, my second was SA Pete Courtney. I served for 45 days as the OIC of the Wing Force Protection Cell, a slot for a Major which I held as a First Lieutenant, by the way.

My ex-wife Laura Eimiller is the spokesperson for the Los Angeles Field Office of the FBI -- incidentally the same field office where I began my federal service on 14 March 1988 as a GS-3 Mail Clerk. About 45 days later, I was promoted to Evidence Technician. About three months later, I was promoted to Investigative Specialist after being sent through a counterintelligence ops course at Quantico. From that point forward, my CI career began. If you care to do FOIA, maybe the FBI will tell you the names of my supervisors there. Make sure you dig into the Los Angeles Field Office, the San Francisco Field Office, the Baltimore Field Office and the New York Field Office, as those were the cities I was assigned to. I ended my time with the FBI as a Language Specialist, Russian, to enter active duty with the USAF and serve as Special Agent AFOSI.

What I did after the air force, from 1999 to 2006, was personnel anti-terrorism security and collections as a private contractor in Europe (E and W), the Middle East, Central Asia, North Africa, South America and the Philippines. My sources are out of the country right now. One is a chief of a security team for DOS in Afghanistan, the other is aboard ship performing anti-piracy services for commercial shipping. I am presently a licensed private investigator in California. My resume contains all the specialized training I've received over the years, including much that would excite your conspiratorial heart. If you like, I can tell you thing about specific places in Kabul, Bogota, Khartoum, Amman, Sarajevo, Manila, Mosul, Basra, Islamabad, Karachi, Tel Aviv, etc etc as I experienced them.

It counts for nothing Walt, to quote you

You are no authority on anything. You're a guy in a forum

The rest of that fluff has been done before.

Richard Theilmann aka sourca A had a dd214, got past the Security at a navel base and all

This is what Maccabee had to say in a 2009 interview about a meeting he had with Source A in 2008.


First of all, I work at a Navy Laboratory, at the time, he visited me, I think it was in April 2008.





In a Navy Laboratory in order to get in you had to have credentials, you had to have clearances, a badge that would allow you to come in, and even if you get in, you might need an escort, if you didn’t have a sufficiently high clearance. Well Source A came right to my office, without any escort. Which tells me he had the credentials.




He gave me a review of all the things he had done over the years. It… certainly looked real.

At the very least, he was able to go right through the security of the laboratory and came right through to my desk.

Recently I was at a “function” that involved Chief of Naval Operations/Admiral Gary Roughhead. Admiral Roughhead before 130 people (Navy & State Dept. & UN delegates) discussed the future of the Navy and its policies with nation-states. Needles to say, the admiral’s lecture was fascinating. For now, until I am given permission on what I can say about the event and “WHO” attended (no names or ranks will be forthcoming), I will refrain from commenting on the specifics. Yes, our source was there. Yes, I was the ONLY participant not on the original list and had to be “vetted” by Four different people in order to get in. Yes, our source had to vouch for me.

And most importantly of all, I met our source’s (third) counterpart to the UN!”

Ufology Exopolitics Special: Source A Exposed! « Reality Uncovered

None of it was true, he had a dress uniform and medals and was able to con even the chief of naval operations. His "credentials" even got him past security at a naval base.

But in reality he was just a sad little man living in a fantasy world.

For all your appeals to authority , Your opinions (which include the Annunaki and an underground civilization, aka pseudo history) don't make you an expert.

you are nothing but just another guy with an hypothesis of his own about something that really doesn't matter in most people's day to day lives.

And in that reality we are both comfortable.

 

[SRL+]

Mikey,

Why do you have such a boner about what I hypothesize?

You act like I denied writing what I write. I said boxing me in with Sitchin isn't accurate. And your lazy cheap shot about the 'fiction/nonfiction' thing is a slur that's been around a while and one which I laugh off. My stuff is pretty clear which is which. But it shouldn't matter to you because you simply don't have to read it.

Regarding your questions, what do you think this forum is? An interrogation? Your questions and the obvious answers (not the spins you put on them) are in no way some damning thing for anyone but those who are already in your echo chamber.

You are no authority on anything. You're a guy in a forum who has ingratiated himself with the hosts; I get that. And there's a clique here positioning itself to dominate as much of the conversation as possible. But think about it, for all the insults you level my way, you are nothing but just another guy with an hypothesis of his own about something that really doesn't matter in most people's day to day lives. I can admit that much to myself. Can you?

How about you answering some questions about what you do? Why are you here? What's your dog in the race? What makes what you think more respectable or authoritative than what I or anyone else here thinks? I'm only on because Gene or Chris ask me to be on. That's the way it works. If you took a poll and the majority of listeners no longer wanted them to ask me, then I wouldn't be here. It's that simple, lol. I have enjoyed being on most of the time, so I appreciate being asked. But if no one here wanted to hear me, oh well. There are other shows that do. Perhaps you should discuss with Gene and Chris about the issue you have with some of their guests and let them work that out with you and the listeners. Maybe they'll hand the show over to you and your buds.

Anyway, your issue with me is your own. Just don't listen when I'm on, Mikey.

Walter, for one moment forget about the Earth’s soft creamy nougat, as for future reference and from personal experience, if you own a pickup truck …, everyone will be your friend. Especially, when it’s time for the faithful to move.

 

[Walter Bosley]

Do you guys think you just scored something? LOL

 

[mike]

Like "source A" you love to present your credentials, even your ex wife was a spokesperson for an alphabet agency lololololol

Looks legit doesn't it ? it wasn't.

Here's the truth.

If your hypothesis had any merit, if there was compelling evidence supporting it, you wouldn't need to invoke all that alphabet agency fluff that's been done before in this space.

 

[SRL+]

Do you guys think you just scored something? LOL

No, not at all. Actually, you should know as well as anyone, this is intellectual porn.

 

[mike]

Do you guys think you just scored something? LOL

Of course not, there was nothing here to start with and you already have a back door Walt.
Anyone who doesnt validate your claims without evidence is in your words an asshole.

frankly, we live in an era when assholes are more aggressive than ever and I choose not to waste my time on them. They don't matter. Their BS doesn't change anything about the reality of my experiences.

We no more matter than your list of credentials. They are clearly important to you, but not us. Your just another guy on the internet with some kooky ideas with nothing other then your self promoted and repeated self importance to give them any weight.

And in that they have none imo.

I have a badge number so......

Funny stuff.

 

[SRL+]

This genre is riddled with intellectual porn, just not what I conveyed to Walter, who I like.

 

[Walter Bosley]

LMFAO Look how worked up you guys are!

 

[SRL+]

What are you talking about, three posts and I'm in a frenzy? ... lol

 

[mike]

LMFAO Look how worked up you guys are!

More classic transference.

Sorry Walt more pseudo facts on your part.

No one else here needs to post a long list of Alphabet agency fluff to validate themselves or their views. Thats just you.

 

[mike]

What are you talking about, three posts and I'm in a frenzy? ... lol

YOU, settle down, dont make me judge you

Walt has a pattern, he likes to overstate his credentials, and his effect on others. Its all in his mind though. Its not real.

 

[SRL+]

Seriously, there are important aspects of Walter’s time here. One is that he felt as being played by his superiors while working for the military.

 

[mike]

Meanwhile back at Mikes house

 

[SRL+]

You're sick man..., really sick. Whats your address?