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Guest Suggestion Mel Fabregas

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luckypet369

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Hey guys,

I don't know how many of you listened to the Veritas Show but I would surely like to have Mel Fabregas on the show so that David can ask him some questions about the credibility of some of his guests

I have never heard of him before he started the show and he's been on the air for a while now and has had some good guests such as Timothy Good and Richard Dolan but other than that don't know much about his background and connections to the UFO/Paranormal field

So,how about it?
 
Not really any point IMO.

There was a thread here a while back with Mel participating too. He just has a different idea of who is credible in the UFO field. Not to mention he seems to think Bassett and the disclosure/exopolitics stuff is all a very good thing.

It would just be inviting an awkward and uncomfortable interview, with no real obvious benefits.

Thats my assessment of the situation anyway.
 
An "interview" with Mel would not be very productive, as he knows little about any of these topics, and is really just another "host". I've listened to just a tiny bit of his show, and I think it's painful. But thanks for the suggestion!

dB
 
luckypet369 said:
Hey guys,

I don't know how many of you listened to the Veritas Show but I would surely like to have Mel Fabregas on the show so that David can ask him some questions about the credibility of some of his guests

I have never heard of him before he started the show and he's been on the air for a while now and has had some good guests such as Timothy Good and Richard Dolan but other than that don't know much about his background and connections to the UFO/Paranormal field

So,how about it?
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Hello luckypet,

Why is it that some of you continue asking who I am when you can simply ask me or just visit my Web site and read about me or listen to my story there. This is another forum, another show, and another style. We are different. You don't have to have a PhD in Ufology to ask the right questions.

Now, if you believe that in eight months (last time I spent some time here before I was almost escorted out) is not that long. Look at the guests that I've interviewed so far: http://www.veritasshow.com/halloffame.html

If you consider Stanton Friedman, Richard Dolan, Timothy Good, Colin Andrews, David Sereda, Grant Cameron, Edgar Mitchell, James Fox, G. Edward Griffin as lightweights in the field, then, I don't know what measuring system you utilize. Actually, Catherine Austin Fitts, G. Edward Griffin and Ralph Epperson have nothing to do with the paranormal world. But again, The Paracast is a paranormal show. I'm not. I discuss everything that is relevant.

Not every interview will be a home run, I admit, but I suspect that this thread will end the same way as the last thread: CLOSED.

In my forum, if I'm going to talk about another host or guest, I give them the opportunity to join in and respond. I went the subscription route, not because I wanted to, but because I had to. So far, so good. People in 132 countries downloading the show.

If that is not a sign that enough people are listening, I don't know what else you would like me to say. You want to know more about me? All you need to do is ask. If you wanted to learn about John McCain, would you ask Obama's camp? If you wanted to learn more about Obama, would you ask McCain's camp? I would do my own objective and unbiased research. Try it sometime. I'm sure you'll be surprised with your findings.

Cheers,

Mel
 
Gareth said:
Not really any point IMO.

There was a thread here a while back with Mel participating too. He just has a different idea of who is credible in the UFO field. Not to mention he seems to think Bassett and the disclosure/exopolitics stuff is all a very good thing.

It would just be inviting an awkward and uncomfortable interview, with no real obvious benefits.

Thats my assessment of the situation anyway.
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Hello Gareth,

You're very smart. It would be uncomfortable and awkward, indeed. No benefits to this camp or mine. It's funny. I get a number of e-mails every week from people saying: My favorite shows are Veritas and The Paracast. There couldn't be two more different shows out there, so I'm surprised that we even share a listener.

Yes, I remember that original thread when I had just started the show. I'm still relatively new, but I'm proud to say the show didn't die as many thought it would.

Very best wishes,

Mel
 
David Biedny said:
An "interview" with Mel would not be very productive, as he knows little about any of these topics, and is really just another "host". I've listened to just a tiny bit of his show, and I think it's painful. But thanks for the suggestion!

dB
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Hello David,

Indeed, it would not be very productive. Actually, it would not be productive at all, since there is nothing that I can bring to your audience. You see, asking questions is what I do. I'm more interested in learning from my guests than my audience learning from me or claiming to be an expert on X, Y, Z. I'm not interesting in shining the light on me.

People who tune in to my show tune in to listen to my guests, not to me. And let's get something clear. Veritas is not a paranormal show. Yes, among all the topics, the paranormal is simply one of them.

I'm sorry you feel that listening to me is painful. However, I'm glad the feeling is mutual. Not only is it painful to listen to you sometimes, it is excruciating. And of course, since it's our choice to listen or not, I chose not to continue enduring the pain of how you treat your guests sometimes.

That's how much our styles differ. When I invite people over to my house, I don't ridicule or embarrass them. I may disagree with them, but I will do it in a respectful manner. That's where you and I are very different. My goal is to let my guest share their point of view. If I don't agree with them, I will say it. But I will do it in a way where the guest will come back. You can challenge and disagree without losing respect and decorum. With all due respect, I have heard your style and I'm glad mine is different.

I just did a show with Kevin Smith. Actually, he asked to come to my show. It was such a pleasure to have someone who shares my style and objectives. Here's how I would envision a stop at the Paracast. You would ask me what the heck I know about paranormal. You would ask my what my areas of expertise are. You would belittle and demean me from beginning to end. If our show would be so predictable, why bother?

Now, I could tell you how I would interview you. But that's a different story.

Oh, and don't worry about people from your audience coming over to check my show out. I'm sure they won't bother and will use discernment. Besides, they are the ones discussing Veritas here (whether good or bad). Hey, it's a compliment.

Cheers,

Mel Fabregas
The Veritas Show

P.S. Let's see how long this thread stays open! :D
 
MelFabregas said:
Not only is it painful to listen to you sometimes, it is excruciating. And of course, since it's our choice to listen or not, I chose not to continue enduring the pain of how you treat your guests sometimes.
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I had the pleasure of guesting on The Paracast some months ago. Both hosts were courteous and respectful, and it was a great experience. The only individuals I've heard being given a hard time on The Paracast are fraudsters, peddlers of BS, and those who make ridiculous claims, expecting Gene and David to accept those claims without question. As your show does not focus exclusively on the paranormal, maybe you don't feel the frustration that so many of us feel with the fraudsters, liars and attention seekers clogging up the field with their nonsense.

Guests have a choice when invited on the show. They can listen to a few episodes if unfamiliar with The Paracast, and then decide whether or not they wish to submit their claims to the tough scrutiny they will receive. It's as easy to say no as it is to say yes. If they know they're on shaky ground, they should expect a tough time if they try to defend the indefensible. Anyway, that's my opinion, for better or worse.
 
Gene and David have had Jacques Vallee and Jerry Clark. ' Nuff said.
 
They had some Kimball bloke too, but hell do anything. So not much of a claim there.
 
Gareth said:
They had some Kimball bloke too, but hell do anything. So not much of a claim there.
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Yes, I am indeed a media whore. Heck, I've even been on C2C twice, and (ugh) Jeff Rense once, before I knew who he was. The three programs that I never have any problem signing on for are the Paracast, Greg Bishop's Radio Misterioso, and Tim Binnall's BoA, all of which are first rate, in different ways. Also Errol Bruce-Knapp's Strange Days... Indeed, but that seems to be on hiatus these days.

As for the rest, I don't listen to them, nor do I particularly care to. Not to say they aren't any good, but I get what I need from the aforementioned shows, which pretty much have any guest worth listening to covered.
 
MelFabregas said:
There couldn't be two more different shows out there, so I'm surprised that we even share a listener.
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You got that right.

Like I said, you're a host, not willing to apply critical thinking to anything you do on your show. You could just as easily be doing media about dogs, or soap, or sandwiches. You ask questions, indeed, weak and pandering questions that reveal little of any use to those of us sincerely seeking to cut the noise away and reveal signal. You have no vested interest in these topics, outside of selling subscriptions.

Go ahead and idolize the likes of Sereda (delusional clown) or Bassett or, for fuck's sake, Kevin Smith. Jeez, I won't be surprised when you have a show featuring that world-famous researcher Kalvin K. Korff. He wrote a book about your favorite UFO hoaxer, Billy Meier. You two will get along famously.

Now, I banned you here before for promoting your sandbox on these forums, but I'll be nice this time. For now. Summer mellows me out.

Oh, and this: Fabregas, as much as I know you love promoting your show, I'm going to have to ask you to stop pasting the URL from your show into each post of yours, you've not asked for permission to do this, we don't normally allow it. And, on another note, here's an actual question: Do you agree with Bassett's contention that credibility is not an important factor for choosing participants for a UFO conference/internet radio show?

dB
 
David Biedny said:
You got that right.

Like I said, you're a host, not willing to apply critical thinking to anything you do on your show. You could just as easily be doing media about dogs, or soap, or sandwiches. You ask questions, indeed, weak and pandering questions that reveal little of any use to those of us sincerely seeking to cut the noise away and reveal signal. You have no vested interest in these topics, outside of selling subscriptions.

Go ahead and idolize the likes of Sereda (delusional clown) or Bassett or, for fuck's sake, Kevin Smith. Jeez, I won't be surprised when you have a show featuring that world-famous researcher Kalvin K. Korff. He wrote a book about your favorite UFO hoaxer, Billy Meier. You two will get along famously.

Now, I banned you here before for promoting your sandbox on these forums, but I'll be nice this time. For now. Summer mellows me out.

Oh, and this: Fabregas, as much as I know you love promoting your show, I'm going to have to ask you to stop pasting the URL from your show into each post of yours, you've not asked for permission to do this, we don't normally allow it. And, on another note, here's an actual question: Do you agree with Bassett's contention that credibility is not an important factor for choosing participants for a UFO conference/internet radio show?

dB
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David,

That is my signature. If you joined my forum, I wouldn't have a problem with that. Obviously, you do. I came here to reply, as some of my listeners listen to you as well. I am responding politely. Now, if you feel your all mighty banning powers are necessary again, feel free to do so if you wish.

It seems that every time I visit your forum, it's because someone is asking a question that only the source can answer properly without getting into a bashing contest.

By the way, out of curiosity, if my show were as trivial as you claim it to be, ask yourself why your listeners continue to discuss it here. Whether good or bad, the discussion is a compliment to me.

Now, I could do the same on my website, but I choose not to express any derogatory remarks about other hosts. Again, you and I have a different style.

Cheers,

Mel

P.S. BTW, I don't idolize any of my guests. Most guests of Veritas come in after I have received a number of requests from the audience. I am one more member of the audience asking the questions. I don't have to be an expert to ask the right questions. The spotlight is on the guest, not on me. We differ there.
 
Mel,

You didn't address my question: do you think credibility is an issue with folks who participate in UFO conferences/radio shows? When you have people on your show, does their personal credibility have any bearing on how you question them?

dB
 
David Biedny said:
Mel,

You didn't address my question: do you think credibility is an issue with folks who participate in UFO conferences/radio shows? When you have people on your show, does their personal credibility have any bearing on how you question them?

dB
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I believe credibility is certainly important. The truth is like the needle in the haystack or the diamond surrounded by coal. I don't use the word BELIEVE. Things exist or they don't. Every guest has something that can help us connect the dots. Have I had a shows where I feel disappointed? Who doesn't? It's part of what I consider my learning curve. I'd like to listen to your first 20 shows to see how your learning curve was.

I don't think researchers like Timothy Good grant interviews to the first person that comes along. Actually, I know you dismiss Whitley Strieber, but he hardly grants interviews to anyone. I had the chance to interview them both and truly enjoyed it.

Has anyone here heard of SLEEPER? (Lou Baldin). He's the author of In League with a UFO and A Day with an Extraterrestrial. He hasn't granted an interview to anyone and everyone who knew him told me "Don't even bother. He won't talk to you." It only took one request and he's on. Now, I could immediately react and call him a hoax, or I could try to interview him. Let's see what he says.

It is our job to discern and draw our own conclusions. Unless we walk in their shoes, we can't dismiss them 100%.

Cheers,

Mel
 
Oh, and let me repeat this. Veritas not only discusses paranormal topics; we also discuss current world events. Is G. Edward Griffin (author from The Creature Jekyll Island) not a worthy guest? Oh, but I'm sure that's topical that wouldn't be discussed here, or would it?

Catherine Austin Fitts to discuss the economic meltdown? Ralph Epperson to discuss the Constitution, the Fed, vaccines, the New World Order, etc. You see, all these issues are interconnected. Gerald Celente? I could go on an on.

Oh, to those of you who may not be familiar with G. Edward Griffin, do yourself a favor and watch him in action with this former Russian mind control expert:


Veritas discusses topics that matter, not just the paranormal.

Cheers,

Mel
 
MelFabregas said:
I believe credibility is certainly important. The truth is like the needle in the haystack or the diamond surrounded by coal. I don't use the word BELIEVE.
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;)

dB

P.S. Whitley does interviews all over the place, he's an attention hound. He originally contacted US to come on the show, and then demurred. And as to the issue of having on good guests, I think we've done pretty well - Dr. Richard Haines doesn't do interviews with ANYONE, and came on the the show and had a fascinating chat with us. Jerome Clark is another great example, he rarely shows up anywhere besides The Paracast, and is considered one of the most important historians in the UFO field. Dr. Bernard Haisch, another person who rarely grants interviews, did an excellent episode with us. Don Ecker is one of our most valued guests, and a good friend of the show, you can't hear him anywhere else. We adore Klaus Dona, and The Paracast is one of the only shows he's been on in recent years. I could go on and on, hell, we broke an exclusive story of two new military UFO witnesses this year thanks to our associate Robert Hastings, one of the best researchers in the field.

I'm especially proud of this:

Blindfolds & cigarettes | HeraldTribune.com | Sarasota Florida | Southwest Florida's Information Leader

So before you go and continue trying to paint us as some sort of inconsiderate rabble-rousers, do your homework. The people we've given a hard time to more than deserved it, and in most cases, did just fine hanging themselves without our help. And you still essentially haven't answered my question about credibility, not that I expected you to. And yeah, we mostly tend to stay away from politics and conspiracy material on this show, I have another sandbox devoted to that stuff. The scope of the paranormal is more than enough for The Paracast - truth in advertising, as far as the name goes.

Ciao.

dB
 
David,

I responded about credibility above. You haven't responded to me as to why you're always on the defensive. Every time I've responded to you, the response I get is always derogatory or condescending.

I'm not criticizing your choice of guests. I'm just stating that I am proud of the guests I've had on. So please, answer my question as to why every message that comes from you about me has to always be derogatory.

Let's agree to disagree in that our styles are very different. I search for knowledge in a very different fashion than you do. You claim to be an expert on X, Y, Z, and I don't. People learn by asking questions.

As a very polite member of this forum who just contacted me said, "There is room for all types of approach to this subject, and like all endeavors in this country, the market place, level of excitement and audience will determine if a show makes it or not. I have never listened to your program but will in the future, if just to hear how you approach this topic."

I thank him for that!

Adiós,

Mel
 
MelFabregas said:
You claim to be an expert on X, Y, Z, and I don't. People learn by asking questions.
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The only areas I am recognized as expert in, are digital imaging and visual effects. I don't make the claim, I can stand on the facts.

They're two different things, claims and facts. Critical thinking is the key to differentiating between them, and understanding the difference.

Sayonara,

dB
 
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