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Well, I've never thought about it, but probably not. Which could mean that a lot of rather unspectacular but nonetheless possibly "paranormal" activity might end up being discarded without anyone noticing.Let me ask you this: Do you think *anyone* watches the footage of security cameras unless something happens, and they check to see if the cams show anything?
Most likely, yes.Which could mean that a lot of rather unspectacular but nonetheless possibly "paranormal" activity might end up being discarded without anyone noticing.
You'd be surprised how often this is the case and the ghosthunting shows don't even care (they are all fake). As long as you have a place with previously reported haunting activity that is classically spooky enough, they'll set up shop there to act, badly, that they are actually doing something.Well, or its the theatre managment trying to lure some ghosthunting show in.
Opinions were asked, I provided mine.Just because I think it might be genuine, that doesn't mean that there aren't a lot of hoaxers around.
But it could have been anything. Having it be a 'ghost' is too complicated. I do think Occam's Razor applies. There are just too many possible simple physical explanations for that chair having moved in that way. I can come up with 3 or 4 off the top of my head. (One is a hoax - there are ways to have that chair move).Hey Tyger
You are such a good researcher. I did not bother. Thanks.
Now I can come up with a new theory: if there was a psychic show just before, the room would be filled with energy. And a ghost just decided to show off by moving the chair. It was a trickster having fun.
What could this possibly be based on? What "energy" are they talking about, and why doesn't it occur in other living things?I live in a country in which spirits are a part of everyday life thanks to the pseudo-science turned into religion, the spiritism.
One thing they say that is probably true is: in order for paranormal stuff to happen a living human being has to be present, because only living human beings have the energy to interact with the physical world.
Poltergeist is an example of it.
You need the person causing it.
Don't take it seriously. I am just being nice to the ghost probability.But it could have been anything. Having it be a 'ghost' is too complicated. I do think Occam's Razor applies. There are just too many possible simple physical explanations for that chair having moved in that way. I can come up with 3 or 4 off the top of my head. (One is a hoax - there are ways to have that chair move).
To really make a determination I would have to see the physical location, look at the chairs and the room, observe it over an extended period of time and really look at the 'original' video.
Here we have an issue of mechanism: you are positing a 'ghost', a room 'filled with energy'. What does that mean?
This was a genuine question. I was attempting to see if you had a mechanism in mind - in other words, had you thought it through in any way, or was working with a 'working model'. Not thinking it through is fine btw - at least, in my neck of the woods. I do have a 'working model' that would address this.Here we have an issue of mechanism: you are positing a 'ghost', a room 'filled with energy'. What does that mean?
Exactly so. Probably what comes to everyone's mind. That assumes there are 'perpetrators'. Someone questioned why anyone would be looking at security video from 4:00 a.m. Hoaxers would be, of course.bit of fishing line tied to chair leg, fed out under the door, and a moth flying about, bingo you have a ghost.
Point #1 I agree with - except when it is apparently captured objectively by 'machines'.Don't take it seriously. I am just being nice to the ghost probability.
I live by the 50/50 probability:
1. it is all between our ears
2. we are all spirits living an earthly experience
I keep my mind open for other possibilities as well. LOL
The energy I was talking about is the ectoplasma thing the spiritists talk about. They don't even explain it properly. Therefore it is laughable.
I am wondering if this word 'ectoplasma' in this context can be the same as 'life force' or 'etheric'. The 'etheric' realm is that realm from which we draw forth the 'stuff ' to make our 'life body' (etheric body) according to esoteric lore. It is the life force/etheric that animates our bodies. Without the etheric life force our bodies do not cohere. At death we release the physical body at once back to the mineral world; we release the etheric body back into the etheric over the course of 3 days after death. The astral release is more complicated and lengthy a process. However, using this 'working model' there are realms that have vital elements that can be/could be 'conjured'.Supposedly, this energy let us be alive in this planet.
I'm following you and I don't find what you say crazy at all.It is the ectoplasma freed by mediums that would respond to materializations, such as done by Sai Baba, for example. Ghosts need the ectoplasma to do physical stuff. In one of my crazy theories, if we were in a matrix, this energy would make up the physical world. Anyway, it is all supposition.
This does not compute - using my 'working model'. But I have not worked with the concept of 'ectoplasm'. Must look it up.Back to the theater room. There was a medium plus all the people doing whatever (they do not say on the sites). Maybe a lot of ectoplasma was released and the ghost was able to do its trick.
I think you just described the scientific method. Pseudo-science - as a phrase - gets batted around a lot. It's a highly suspect description for a whole raft of reasons. Rather than cop-in to that dismissive mode, respect your theorizing more.As you can see, I don't take life too seriously. I don't even dwell on any theory, or defend it. However I love to make theories that fit the results. As Bananas says, a behavior that belongs to pseudo-scientists.
Sounds reasonable to me.You should hear my theory on reptilians... it starts with human beings finding a scapegoat to blame all our nasty behaviours. LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Perhaps - but your ideas should be respected. You have a place at the table. No reason to apologize.Think of me as a trickster poster, but well intentioned. There are no sacred cows for me.
Is it a classical hoax? How? How is it being hoaxed? Serious question.editing after reading it: trickster and well intentioned seem paradoxical. I have to come up with something else. I like to nudge the things in other directions in order to open possibilities to other explanations. You guys can help.
BTW - the video for me is a classical hoax. I was just bringing another point of view, in the what if spirit (pun intended).