Dear Diary - Fauci et al

[Tyger]

Lots of news items have reported faulty science over the centuries.

Being a scientist does not prevent that person from also harbouring criminal behaviour.

For health purposes, I feel we should be just as skeptical of "the science" as any other field.

@Squirrel Agree 100%. The famous one is the story of germ theory. I did ask 'computer assist' to give me a quick summary and what it gave me was the following:

"Ignaz Semmelweis faced significant pushback from the medical community when he advocated for handwashing to prevent puerperal fever, as his ideas conflicted with established beliefs and he could not provide a scientific explanation for his findings. His recommendations were largely ignored until the germ theory of disease was later confirmed by Louis Pasteur, which validated Semmelweis's observations."

Some would argue that Semmelweis's observations were pretty darn good proof that something was afoot. The failure of the 'expert class' - especially in medicine - is notorious for egregious errors of judgement. 'Computer assist' putting in the caveat "he could not provide a scientific explanation for his findings" is misleading because back then clear observation of cause and effect was 'science' enough. Those doctors were catastrophically wrong to ignore him. They knew women did better in childbirth with a midwife - plenty to observe as a proof.

What I always find curious is the contradiction - 'trust the science' - when science by definition is questioning. Science starts and ends with questions. In fact - 'trust the science' means 'trust the questions' - and if Fauci really was 'the science' as he purported himself to be, he would have been answering all our questions, not shutting those questions down with an authoritarian gesture.

 

[Burnt State]

@Burnt State You are clearly listening to the wrong news outlets. Mainstream by any chance? Canadian news? Even US news?

Are you aware that Hillary Clinton said the 2016 election she lost was a fraud, was stolen? How she figured Trump did the stealing is beyond me. She was pounding the pavement with that for years - with no evidence to back up the claim. Yet no one made an issue of her outcries. Why?

But the 2020 election smelt rotten from the get-go - with clear evidence of election shenanigans, yet Trump was a sore-loser?

Trump did not 'contribute to violence against public servants and threaten the general safety of the public' - just listen to his full speech. Have you read about what we now know - we knew it then but it was quashed by a very corrupt committee - about the FBI operatives in the crowd, the doors being opened, 'rioters' being led in and directed where to go ... all on tape, all recorded. What part Pelosi played in the whole show. Wild stuff. Corrupt stuff - but never given air time. I won't even go into the 'terror' that was inflicted on US citizens by the congressional committee. They most definitely deserved pardons - they had suffered enough for whatever infractions they had committed - their whole lives had been destroyed for the sake of a psyop. Thankfully they were given cash - it was the least we could do to make up for the kangaroo court they were put through.


Not your cup of tea. The display of manliness was more my cup of tea than Biden parading 'Transgender Queer Queens' on the White House Lawn in front of children - or giving over the whole White House Christmas Decorations to LGBTQ+ dancers. Not my world. The wrestling matches speak to far more Americans than what Biden brought.



'Progressive'? Far from it - all that progressive 'woke' stuff was a subvert Marxist 'capture' - when the schools got closed with the covid business and parents started seeing what curriculum teachers were delivering - there was an uproar. We've been pushing against it all ever since. Trump is our deliverance from insanity back to sanity. We now know how corrupt the US has been in spreading the 'progressive' agenda via USAID. Naught to do with American values.

We've never 'balanced the needs of so many different peoples'. If you think that, you misunderstand the American system. People have always been expected to come up to American standards, not the reverse. We are not a socialist country though there is now a considerable part of the population that strongly believes we give our taxes to the government to give hand-outs to people. The country has been corrupted since the 1960s and the advent of the welfare state (Great Society).

As previously stated you live in a very different reality than I do. You subscribe to series of different conspiracies across a very wide spectrum. I, on the other hand, do not believe in any of them. And because a conspiracy has no real agreed upon facts associated with them, just the constructed ones that the purveyors of these conspiracies offer, what is there to debate? I don't take my news or critical information from the QAnon Shaman. I prefer real facts.

Might as well believe in Chemtrails and that the global elites are in cahoots with aliens to spread disease through sky pollution to help depopulate the earth.

 

[Burnt State]

So many red flags - take the shot and need a booster in 1 to 3 months? And then again ... and then again .... hmmm

That was your clue that real science was busy at work. Viruses mutate all the time, as COVID did, and so the only way to combat it is through a series or boosters that are responding to the dramatic changes in the virus.

This was a landmark event. We were lucky that it did not target the young, as viruses can, as that would have been entirely devastating for the planet. We were lucky as a society that its death toll was mostly on the immunocompromised aka the elderly. (Not diminishing that loss of life as it was tragic that family could not visit their relatives dying from COVID but it was a lower death toll)

There were no on the shelf remedies or medically effective treatments other than the vaccine, certainly not using Lysol as the president suggested.

There is always going to be a segment of the population who do not believe in diseases and do not agree with social mandates to prevent the transmission of these diseases. Across history we have had a number of communicable disease outbreaks and the use of social mandates, like not congregating in small places with lots of people singing and sharing the air together like in churches, restaurants, bars, schools has helped greatly to stop the spread of communicable disease.

Some people see this as a loss of their freedoms, and rebel against it, invent conspiracies etc. But as many saw in South Carolina, Utah, Florida, and Texas etc. they had the right to spike the disease and spread COVID and measles all they wanted. And they did exactly that because they host clusters of people who don't believe in vaccination.

If children were the ones being affected and dying from the disease the way that Polio ravaged America in the mid century the public outcry would have been in the exact opposite direction, as it was in the 40's and 50's. Back then people saw their kids being dramatically affected and they demanded society be shut down and voluntarily kept their kids at home and stopped gathering to save lives.

Again, this is science, not some made up bunk.

 

[Squirrel]

@Squirrel

Before I reply, I say again I can't "prove," meaning I can't provide a link or citation to some official person or entity acknowledging what I say "has been reported" is actually true.

In a matter as serious as health, and talking about RADICALLY NEW TECHNOLOGY (i.e. gene-modifying medicine which hasn't even undergone the ordinary ten year test protocol) ... when serious accusations are made by doctors, including pharmaceutical executives, IT IS REALLY REALLY SMART TO PAY ATTENTION AND IDEALLY GET SOME OFFICIAL BODY TO INVESTIGATE AND REPORT BACK PUBLICLY.

As to exactly which programs I received each report from, I'm in my 80s and my memory isn't the greatest and I didn't keep a list. Furthermore, I don't have the strength to debate how reliable each program is, and battle with critics over every misdeed the hosts and guests may have committed.

Generally, I listen to news-oriented Internet radio. These shows start out by playing clips from mainstream media, which are then researched, analyzed and commented on by hosts and guests. A fair number of the guests have senior standing in various government and civilian bodies, typically retired so they can speak freely.

Some are recognized as former executives in pharmaceuticals, doctors, lawyers, judges, military officers, financiers, some in foreign countries ... in other words, people whose information might be worth at least one good listen.

I came across that there was no mandate for migrants or undocumented migrants to receive COVID-19 vaccines. Strange that one.

Yes I heard that news item a number of times too.

It is not necessarily strange if you consider the many reports (not proven, again, but very serious and deserving of official investigation) ... that the top powers that be intend to carry out "The Great Replacement." If that is true, then they would definitely want their imported replacements to avoid such damage from vaccines as shown in the photo I posted of medical secretary Jummai Nache.

Everyone has their own opinion as to the likelihood of that scenario of course.

Found no validation about vaccine factory workers - though would migrants or undocumented migrants be involved in that area? I did see the caveat mentioned several times: US factories. So does that mean that non-US factory workers were not required to get vaccinated?

The comments were not just factories but research labs as well. I didn't hear anything about vaccine plants outside the U.S.

I've never heard about VIP exemptions but I can guess it might well be so. I do know as fact that in Germany there were doctors that would give a saline shot (no vax at all as you mentioned) and sign the required paperwork in the affirmative.

Again, these are news items, often supported by people who are doctors or scientists, a few of which I looked up and appear to be genuinely credentialled.

To me, that's enough to stop taking the med in question and look for investigations of the negative claims. You can't "un-take" a vaccine, they say (though some remedies have been reported like Ivermectin and Hydroxychloroquine. N-Acetyl-L-Cystiene too.)

I heard reports of significant successes with those two medications in other countries where they were sold over the counter.

More uses continue to be reported for Ivermectin and now Fenbendazole, both used (not the only use) for de-worming horses. That arena is worth watching for those concerned with their health.

I am NOT A DOCTOR and am NOT ATTEMPTING TO GIVE MEDICAL ADVICE. Just saying worth keeping a watch on these news stories.

Reading up on all this I was reminded of how disruptive the mandate was in the US. There were nurses and doctors and teachers and fire fighters and so many others who lost their livelihoods because they would not comply. (Not to mention small businesses that had to close with the lockdowns - the loss of wealth - what a mess those Fauci lockdowns were - should never have happened).

If the "Great Replacement" is real, all that disruption fits in quite neatly.

-- Squirrel

 

[Tyger]

As previously stated you live in a very different reality than I do. You subscribe to series of different conspiracies across a very wide spectrum. I, on the other hand, do not believe in any of them.

I'd be interested in you describing in detail what it is exactly you think I believe that is a conspiracy theory.

Hillary Clinton saying the 2016 election she lost was a fraud, was stolen by Trump is a conspiracy theory? I am reporting what I heard for years from Hilary about her loss in 2016. No conspiracy, except maybe from her end.

Regarding January 6th you are stuck on the initial reporting of that event - we have far more knowledge of what went on that afternoon, and even in real time it was heavily biased reporting. Have you watched the videos? We can actually see the FBI operatives instructing the 'rioters' what to do and where to go. None of the FBI operatives were ever brought to account. Conspiracy? Something strange was afoot that day, and whatever conspiracy was afoot it was from the left.

The fact that I disaprove of Biden inviting Trans Queer Queens onto the White House Lawn to dance in front of children is a conspiracy theory?

My stating that I think you misunderstand what America is about re 'different peoples' is not conspiracy, it's just the way it is. We are a 'melting pot' because newcomers merge with American values, not because we take care of them in any unique way. We just accept people. We have an older community of Muslim Americans scattered throughout the country that have perfectly assimilated - they share and respect American values. They voted for Trump in 2024. We expect assimilation. That's not a conspiracy.

What about any of that do you disagree with? You are okay with the trans movement? If you are then we do disagree. You are okay with the kangaroo court the Jan 6th committee engaged? Then we disagree. My statement about Hilary Clinton is factual, from personal experience. My clarifications about American values stands, In the recent past we could always disagree without turning on one's heel "in high dudgeon." Times have changed, like the everyday use of foul language. It's a strange strange time we are in.

Not really that long ago - 60 years - Ronald Reagan ages well ...

Truer words: Comment @17:00 "......timeless and with universal application."
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[Randall]

I'm just wondering when and if there will truly be a stupidity/ignorance vaccine? Seemingly, there's an epidemic of stupidity/ignorance traveling about.

If they come out with one — it will look like this:

 

[SRL+]

As this forum’s provocateur, I’d expect anything less.

 

[Tyger]

SENIOR ADVISOR TO FAUCI JUST PLEADED GUILTY TO CHARGES BROUGHT BY USA DEPT OF JUSTICE...

Breaking news
Yet another day of doing the work studiously avoided by the NZ legacy media.
Just popping in to let you know that yesterday (Aug 18 2026) David Morens (a former senior advisor in the NIAID Office of the Director, 2006–2022, often described as a close adviser to Anthony Fauci)....

PLEAD GUILTY TO CRIMINAL CHARGES BROUGHT BY THE AMERICAN DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
to:
ONE COUNT OF CONSPIRACY TO COMMITT OFFENSES AND DEFRAUD THE UNITED STATES
He admitted to participating in a scheme (with at least one other person) to HIDE FEDERAL RECORDS related to COVID-19 origins discussions and a terminated NIH bat-coronavirus research grant (linked to work involving the Wuhan Institute of Virology / EcoHealth Alliance) in order to evade Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) requests and the Federal Records

He faces a maximum of 5 years in prison (plus potential fine up to $250,000 and supervised release); sentencing is scheduled for November 12, 2026.

This could well backtrack all the way to Fauci himself.

Previously, Morens claimed in his own emails that he could route sensitive information to Fauci via Fauci’s private Gmail account or by handing documents over in person, describing this as a “secret back channel” and saying Fauci was “too smart” to allow colleagues to send him material that could cause trouble if FOIA’d.

He also speculated that Fauci had deleted related emails himself. These were Morens’ statements; no direct instructions from Fauci appear in the records, and Fauci has denied any such involvement or use of personal email for official business.

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[Tyger]

"What happens when public statements don't always line up over time?

"This video compiles years of interviews, hearings, and public appearances involving Dr. Anthony Fauci, highlighting how his messaging on topics like masks, social distancing, vaccines, and the origins of COVID-19 changed throughout the pandemic.

"For many people, these shifts raised difficult questions. Were the changes simply the result of evolving science, or were important conversations left unanswered?

"Now ask yourself...If the people we trusted most changed their message over and over, what else deserves a second look?

"This isn't about telling you what to believe. It's about asking whether you've seen the full picture.

"Watch the video. Compare it with what you remember. Then ask yourself one simple question:
Were you given the whole story ... or only the version you were meant to hear?"

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[Tyger]

USA DIRECTOR OF FBI JUST ANNOUNCED - FAUCI ASSOCIATE PLEADS GUILTY TO CONSPIRACY

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After an FBI investigation with our DOJ partners, DR FAUCI'S ASSOCIATE David Morens, just pleaded guilty to conspiracy in a scheme to avoid FOIA requests and the Federal Records Act connected to COVID-19 research grants.

The FBI uncovered that Morens, Co-Conspirator 1, Co-Conspirator 2, and others conspired during the COVID-19 pandemic to defraud the United States after the National Institutes of Health terminated Co-Conspirator 1’s grant.

NIH terminated the grant, “Understanding the Risk of Bat Coronavirus Emergence,” based on allegations that COVID-19 emerged from the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) in Wuhan, China.

Mr. Morens and his co-conspirators then agreed in writing to intentionally HIDE THEIR COMMUNICATIONS FROM PUBLIC VIEW view by corresponding through Morens’s personal Gmail account rather than his official NIH email account.

This FBI investigation remains ongoing. No one is above the law.

FBI Director - Kash Patel

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