Walter Starcke: What am I missing?

[Brian Now]

I am open to a lot of what he says, but this is standard New Age stuff both in podcasts and the "metaphysical" section of the bookstore...btw I think his folk etymology of that word was cute, but incorrect. I guess I'm already so saturated with this stuff that it can't impact me like it does other listeners. But I'm glad the Paracast is trying something different.

A few things though..

• Infinity minus something can't be, so this proves we go on past death?

• No nations go to war with other nations these days? Think of spring 2003.

• It bugs me when elderly Americans talk about how caring or kinder people were back in their day. They're right probably, but those statements should always be qualified with the phrase "as long as you were white". A person of color might have a very different viewpoint of life back then.

• Why is it that people who say they don't believe in god at all, always seem to go back to a god's scriptures to pull quotes from? Is it just a way to get people to relate to what they're saying, or is this just valuing religion when it's convenient, shunning it when it's not?

I didn't know this thing had a bullet point feature till just now!

 

[Bixyboo]

When hubby and I left scn, we stepped to things like New Thought (read some of The Science of Mind book and realized that scn took some things from it, imo). And read other books...Wayne Dyer, Abraham Hicks, watched The Secret, read and enjoyed the Conversations With God series, etc..etc.. all these helped us. I even returned to reading about the life of Edgar Cayce with particular interest in his medical suggestions, etc (like I was getting into when a teenager)

While I didn't agree with every single thing Walter was saying, he did say some things that struck me and indeed, helped.

Bixyboo

 

[Catie]

I usually don't hang out on the message boards here, but after this show I had to stop by and say thank you for having this guest. It is always nice when the show veers off into a tangent and get into things that it normally doesn't get to examine. While what Starcke talks about is nothing new to me, I like the fact that he was eloquent and articulate. It is a pleasure to listen to someone like that. I consider this interview a great review of the spiritual concepts that I've read about before in other writings and interviews.

 

[AnnetteMarie]

Bernard Haisch's interview had very little, if anything, to do with the subject of UFOlogy, yet it was one of the most interesting and intriguing interviews I have heard anywhere.

I truly love the process of speculation, 'what ifs' and so forth. Lots of times we get so bogged down in looking for facts we forget to wonder and imagine.

I also love truth. Sometimes a 'wondering' path leads us to truth a lot faster than logic.

 

[aNorthernSoul]

I also really enjoyed this interview. I too decided to research as many "religions" and core belief systems to see what could be pulled from all of them and what could be thrown away in order to create a unique value system for myself. It's interesting how similar our views wound up being. I think a major difference is while he seems to feel we are all inherently good, I believe the opposite, I suppose... I find we struggle to maintain and live up to our ideal. This is why I am not so quick to get behind socialism or globalization. I also don't believe our reality is solely our own to create. I think our reality is ours to manipulate based on what we create and how we react to those things imposed on us. All in all though, it was a terrific interview. With his age and experience, he seems to practice and maintain our similar views much better than I. He really served as a pleasant kick in the butt to myself to narrow my path a bit and apply more discipline where I have been slacking as of late.

Thanks for bringing this about for me, Gene and Dave!

 

[aNorthernSoul]

• Why is it that people who say they don't believe in god at all, always seem to go back to a god's scriptures to pull quotes from? Is it just a way to get people to relate to what they're saying, or is this just valuing religion when it's convenient, shunning it when it's not?

While the scriptures may have been presented as the word of god, one doesn't need to believe in a god to see that there is wisdom in some of the philosophies therein.

 

[Brian Now]

While the scriptures may have been presented as the word of god, one doesn't need to believe in a god to see that there is wisdom in some of the philosophies therein.

The people I'm talking about like to pull the dogmatic portions out and retool them. It's fine to agree that we need to love our fellow man, but it's another thing to lift out the "you shall have dominion..." part and reinterpret it. If you don't believe in a god, then leave that god's words alone.
I sound like I'm defending mainstream religion or something, but I don't actually believe in god myself, I tend to think more like Starcke in that regard.

 

[itsthenoise]

Really enjoyed this show, very interesting.

Excellent questions.

and cheered me up quite a bit in these tough times.

 

[boulders and sticks]

I listened to the show today and enjoyed the change. I found Mr Starcke a very interesting guest. I have read the book the secret. ( I lied, i listened to it on tape) There were some aspects of it i found to be of interest, but i was dissapointed with the focus on the material world. I felt it missed the point. The aquistion of more and more stuff will never lead to happiness. Be it relationships,money,Cars,Houses and yes, Aliens. The continual need for more has done so much harm in this world. Lead by the overeactive, out of control ego's of Human beings, with the need to be right. (Steven Greer)

Also I don't think that taking parts of the Bible to make a point is wrong in any way. It was written by Man, not God, not some outside energy, it was written with good Intent. Over the many, many, years these words were twisted by ego's for the benefit of the few. I have been reading some of the eastern approaches and found them to ring so very true for me. We all have a choice each day of our lives to excercise compassion for our fellow man. I know from my own experience in the past years that it can take a very traumatic event, to open a kind of portal, to a different way of thinking. A kind of shock to the system. The thirst for a little peace from the torment that our minds/egos can inflict is very desirable to me. The anger that i once felt only managed to harm one person.... Me.
Thank you Mr Starcke.
Thank You Gene and David.

 

[Blacknight]

You know the best part of this? You can always turn off the show if you find him predictable, or boring, or trite. 8)

dB

I was quite skeptical well before the show aired. 10 minutes in my skepticism was confirmed, in capital letters. Fortunately. I always feel free to exercise the alternative David noted was available and I tuned out after 15 minutes. I've had my monthly quota of gibberish listening to the crap around the healthcare debacle.

 

[Dave Murphy]

Wonderful interview. A very wise man.

 

[cottonzway]

cottonzway with an NWO rant in 3...2...1...

I'll get there, Capn, just let me explain myself first.

Very interesting interview. I have to say first off that I am STUNNED that this man is nearing 90-years old! He looks in his 60's and sounds totally coherent. Whatever my views on his his views are aside, it is simply amazing that he looks and sounds in the condition he is in at his age.

While I don't agree with pretty much of what the fellow has to say in terms of his projection of where society goes, he has lived a very interesting life. I found the interview useful and interesting.

Instead of waisting time fawning, I'll get to my point other then saying I'm amazed at how he has beat father time and lead an interesting life.

David asked him a specific question about GLOBALIZATION in the context of ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT and Mr. Starcke didn't answer it with any detail except for a snicker and "that's how they feel" comment. That is not good enough. That shows a lack of understanding of globalization in the actual context of people who support the concept support it. It shows a mindset of "wishful thinking" because he would like PEACE in the world. I mean, who wouldn't? Neo-Cons I guess.

I watched his video on globalization that was dated on 11-08 and listened to his comments that were of recent. What I took from that are his particular comments about Obama. I could seriously understand prior to the election with the ghoulish Bush administration in office the hopeful comments abotu Obama. I can't rationalize them now though. It shows a lack of understanding politics and polices. I could not be honest with myself and say those kind of things about Obama. I don't care what your politics are, it's simply dishonest to make those comments about Obama in August of 2009. I'm sorry, I'm not some bitter Republican or racist, it's just being honest about the continued foreign policy we have that the BA had, the economic decisions, the "czars", the lies about lobbyists being hired (hired the top lobbyist for RAYTHEON!, come on!), and lie after lie that the media and White House tries to make seem Right-Wing or suggest in a more absurd angle is "racist" to not to support Socialism when a man like myself just wants to represent our own actual laws.

Good guest, good man, but not informed on the areas I just spoke about.

 

[David Biedny]

I'm pretty much right there with you, cotton. Anyone who's ever listened to Angry Human knows how I feel about Obama - while I detested Bush, and didn't think much about McCain and The Bimbo, I've not been much of a fan of Obama, and his policies, words and actions have played out largely how I feared they would. Folks need to understand that democracy is the last thing that's currently playing out in the U.S. I tend to refer to it as corporate feudalism. Thanks for that post.

dB

 

[dianadee13]

I too enjoyed the show. This guy is on the right lines and makes a refreshing change to hear other subject matter. I'd like to hear more from him.
Thanks to all

 

[Jeff Crowell]

I enjoyed the discussion with Mr. Starcke myself, for the most part, and agree that the base-line paranormal discussions shouldn't be the only thing done on the ParaCast. Dealing with the paranormal has to do with mind-set, world view, and philosophy so this guest was appropriate in my opinion.

My issues with Mr. Starcke and his words are that they're simply nothing new. From the New Age movement of the 80's to 90's, to the hippie/free love movement of the 60's and 70's, to the spiritualist movement of the mid to late 1800's, each generation has believed they were on the cusp of some sort of evolution whether it was spiritual, technical, or otherwise. I seriously believe this has to do with a level of arrogance ingrained within humanity. Most generations believe themselves to be better than others, or facing challenges no other generation has. Globalization is at the fore of this generation but what about times when the telephone, television, or radio were coming to pass. What about the boundaries broken by the automobile, the airplane, or the railroad? People looked at these inventions as ground-breaking and ushering in a time of humanity never-before seen just like we view computers, the Internet, and the cellphone. Basically they saw their time in the same light that we're seeing ours. I believe this is something that we need to be keenly aware of so that we, as a generation, can keep a sense of humility and grounded-ness. The challenges and innovations we are facing are nothing new. They are cyclical at best. True, our world is getting smaller but it's been shrinking for a very long time, I would venture to say hundreds of years. I could write for volumes on that regarding my own opinions but I'll leave it be and not bore you further. .

As far as President Obama; well I hate politics in general. He was a lesser of two evils during the election and when I was told how socialist he was when I sided for him I replied, "We either deal with the socialism of the Democrats or the fascism of the Republicans." Both suck, but hopefully President Obama can restore a semblance of balance. Then, come 2012, we'll elect his counter to try to swing the pendulum in the opposite direction and find that base-line once more....the base-line of equality between money, power, and quality of life for all Americans.

I know, I'm a dreamer but at least I dream big.

 

[Apocalypto]

Folks need to understand that democracy is the last thing that's currently playing out in the U.S. I tend to refer to it as corporate feudalism.

Ah, yes. Max Keiser has been talking about this for a while now. He's right. We've gone back 500 years. Democracy has show the cracks at its edges. Don't even dream about the concept of a Republic at his point.

 

[swatcher]

I'm pretty much right there with you, cotton. Anyone who's ever listened to Angry Human knows how I feel about Obama - while I detested Bush, and didn't think much about McCain and The Bimbo, I've not been much of a fan of Obama, and his policies, words and actions have played out largely how I feared they would. Folks need to understand that democracy is the last thing that's currently playing out in the U.S. I tend to refer to it as corporate feudalism. Thanks for that post.

dB

Unfortunately the US government has become a corporation in the '60s. The welfare of it's people is not the focus anymore. Multi-national corporations are making policy now. David, I couldn't agree more, unfortunately ...

Re the show: I don't get Mr. Starcke. I have no clue what's supposed to be special about the guy, apart from his good health as an almost 90-year-old. Live long and prosper ...

 

[Blacknight]

Unfortunately the US government has become a corporation in the '60s. The welfare of it's people is not the focus anymore. Multi-national corporations are making policy now. David, I couldn't agree more, unfortunately ...

Which multi-national corporations do you have in mind? Goldman, Citibank, GM? Corporations are limp-wristed entities run by numbers-obsessed frightened little accountants. And what do you mean that the welfare of its people is not the focus anymore. Our "entitlements" budget is enormous, and we've entrapped generations of Americans through that budget. The problem is that the government isn't OF THE PEOPLE. It doesn't serve us. It tries to control us. It's a self-perpetuating gaggle of mediocre thinkers, driven entirely by self-ambition and a pathological need for re-election. Everything from tax policy to campaign laws have one goal--social engineering and enriching the right classes of people. Let's not kid ourselves and get distracted by this "multi-nationals-run-the-government" nonsense. The government is run by career politicians and bureaucrats in the nation's biggest and most devious secret society...the federal government. And political parties are just the cotton candy we're fed to ensure we beleve we're making a meaningful choice. They've turned legitimate polticial debate and dialogue into a football game, with scores and fans and people personally and emotionally invested in their party rather than in the common good and the best interests of our Republic.

But I digress...

 

[swatcher]

Blacknight,

So who was the recipient of all that bailout money? Was it Joan six pack down the street who can't make the mortgage anymore, or maybe some corporation that has recently announced an enormous quarterly profit?

Goldman Sachs Posts Record Profit, Beating Estimates (Update4) - Bloomberg.com

Do you know a CEO who runs a multi-national corporation? Have you ever talked to one? Your assumption that those companies are run by "numbers-obsessed frightened little accountants" doesn't square with my experience and exposure. Their sense of power, entitlement and control only compares to the mindset of kings and queens ... We still live in a feudalistic society.

I don't disagree with you that the two political parties are essentially one and the same. It's just a smoke screen. But even politicians can't live off power alone. They need money to campaign and exercise their power. That's where the lobbyists and big corporations come in ...

 

[Blacknight]

Swatcher, we're all anonymous here. I would ask that you take me at my word when I tell you that I was an elected officer at one of the largest companies in America for the last 10 years of a 36 year career. I was also on the Board and executive committee of a very large health system and I now own a small, healthcare business as the first of what I hope will be many "retirement projects".

I know many senior corporate executives, and count many as friends. I know first hand and in great detail how Boards and senior management work. And I know that, with few exceptions, they are hard working, honest folks who take their responsibilities to shareholders and employees very seriously. I worked with and for a few that were not good executives or even nice people. In every case, those bad players were expunged and most often it was because the organization effectively closed ranks against them. The vast majority--i.e., the typical good executive--view their roles as being stewards, accountable to their owners. If you've ever read perhaps the best business book ever written, From Good to Great, by Prof. Collins, you would have a real understanding of what makes a successful CEO and a successful company. And political involvement and clout is nowhere to be found in his research.

The notion that the ever-changing world of corporate boardrooms and executive suites can maintain a powerful cabal that controls governments is just silly. The handful of CEOs and other executives who dabble in the political arena almost always pay a painful price for their hubris. Companies are, for all intents and purposes, owned almost entirely by institutional investors who focus on RETURNS, not politics. Surely corporations will contribute to try and sway legislation that will benefit their business, from tariffs to energy alternatives. But so do laywers, unions and retired people (all three of which groups contribute far more than any single industry).

As for Goldman Sachs, let me remind you that Goldman has already repaid its TARP loans (over the Obama Adminsitration's objections!!!), with dividends, and it repurchased its government warrants for another $1.1B. TAXPAYERS GOT AN ANNUALIZED RETURN OF 23% ON THE GOLDMAN INVESTMENT. If anyone got dragged over the coals it was Goldman not the government.

It's unfortunate that people choose to lay blame for our political morass at the feet of some vague corporate, or other, conspiracy. Our problems are driven entirely by the men and women in power, who ignore their oaths of office and respond to what best serves their own ambitions. The situation will never resolve as long as people focus on shadows on the wall. If Americans voted for statesmen, who came into office to faithfully represent a contituency for a short period, we'd be a better country and a stronger people. As long as we allow politicians to manipulate us into being "fans" rather than thinking, independent-minded voters and taxpayers we'll have more of the same.

And I continue to digress. Sorry!