THE PARACAST NEWSLETTER
September 23, 2012
The Paracast Explores the Mysteries of Mars and the Moon with Mike Bara
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Please Visit Our Online Store: You asked, and we answered. We are now taking orders for The Official Paracast T-Shirt and an expanded collection of other specially customized merchandise. To get your T-Shirt now featuring our brand new logo, just pay a visit to our online store at The Official Paracast Store to select your size and place your order. We also offer a complete lineup of other premium merchandise for your family, your friends and your business contacts.
About The Paracast: The Paracast covers a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions across the planet.
Set Up: The Paracast is a paranormal radio show that takes you on a journey to a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions. The Paracast seeks to shed light on the mysteries and complexities of our Universe and the secrets that surround us in our everyday lives.
Join long-time paranormal researcher Gene Steinberg, co-host and acclaimed field investigator Christopher O'Brien, and a panel of special guest experts and experiencers, as they explore the realms of the known and unknown. Listen each week to the great stories of the history of the paranormal field in the 20th and 21st centuries.
This Week's Episode: Gene and Chris present author/researcher Mike Bara, whose latest book, "Ancient Aliens on the Moon," was recently released by Adventures Unlimited Press. We'll also cover Mars mysteries. According to his bio, Mike is a New York Times Bestselling author and lecturer who began his writing career after spending more than 25 years as an engineering consultant for major aerospace companies, where he was a card-carrying member of the Military/Industrial complex.
Christopher O'Brien's Site: Our Strange Planet
Mike Bara's Site: Mike Bara
Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: The Paracast Community Forums. We recently completed a major update that makes our community easier to navigate, and social network friendly.
You Can’t Keep a Good UFO Story Down
By Gene Steinberg
All right, folks, I think I’ve given the people who favor the existence of an Aztec, NM UFO crash a fair hearing. I’ve also read Scott and Susanne Ramsey’s book covering years of research, “The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Heart Canyon,” and I tried to be fair and balanced on the subject. Although I had some personal concerns about the scope of their evidence, I was willing to put the affair in the gray basket; neither proven or disproven.
My review of the book in this newsletter concluded that believers will continue to believe, but skeptics will remain skeptical. When one of the Aztec critics, Kevin D. Randle, wrote a scathing criticism of the book on his blog, I hoped the Ramseys would be quick to issue a response. I even invited them to join Chris and I on The Paracast to debate Randle. Perhaps they could address Randle’s concerns and change some minds.
Unfortunately, they didn’t respond to my email or phone call. Nothing. The book remains on sale, but no rebuttal appears on the site the Ramseys set up for the title’s promotion. It hasn’t even been offered for sale at Amazon, which is a trivial process, even for a self-publisher. Curious, inasmuch as the book recounts what appears to be their life’s work, the result of spending what they claim is over half a million dollars to get to the bottom of the mystery.
Maybe they are working on that response, and I look forward to reading it. But this may be just another UFO legend that fails to pass muster. Certainly if their evidence is as compelling as they believe it to be, they’d make quick work of the objections of Randle and other non-believers. But they haven’t, at least so far.
But that won’t stop yet another researcher some time in the future from dredging up the work of Frank Scully, William Steinman, and Scott and Susanne Ramsey, and making new claims that the Aztec, NM crash legend has substance. At this point, it’s a difficult sell. Maybe there is more evidence out there, yet undiscovered, that would prove a flying saucer really crashed in Aztec back in 1948, but it doesn’t appear as if such evidence is going to be any more compelling than what’s already out there, and that material is mighty flimsy.
Then there are the reports of possible UFO crashes at Kingman, AZ. Well, maybe not in Kingman itself, but in the Arizona desert some distance away. Unfortunately, when you look into this case, you end up with something that’s less than the sum of the parts.
Take, for example, the interviews with an alleged witness, someone who went by the name Fritz Werner, but he later turned out to be a World War II veteran by the name of Arthur G. Stansel, Jr. Now it seems that Stansel’s stories about a crashed object at Kingman seemed to become more extravagant as he consumed more and more martinis. Without actual written documentation confirming that a sighting or series of sightings ever took place in that location, it’s hard to take this story seriously.
In recent years, Harry Drew, who describes himself as a “former Director of Museums of History, Anthropology and Archaeology, a Cultural Resource Specialist [and] newspaper columnist,” has been engaged in his own investigation of possible UFO incidents at Kingman. But in his interview on The Paracast, he seemed to rely fairly heavily on Stansel’s questionable claims.
Drew presented an elaborate tale involving a crash landing and subsequent crashes at Kingman, claiming that the wreckage was carted off to such places as the military installation that later become known as Area 51.
Fortean researcher Nick Redfern, one of our friendly Paracast guest co-hosts, is suggesting there may have actually been a crash at Kingman in 1953 all right, but it involved a test aircraft that carried a chimpanzee. The very mundane episode was extrapolated over the years to morph into the landing of a spaceship piloted by a tiny alien.
I remain skeptical that investigations into the Kingman episode or episodes will ever provide compelling evidence of a genuine UFO event. The problem is that the documentation, such as it is, can be largely traced to a couple of interviews published in the 1970s, one coming from noted UFO writer Ray Fowler. There hasn’t been much follow up, and it’s not that there are witnesses to be found to confirm the story. Certainly it’s recent enough for some of the elderly residents in and around Kingman to deliver some remembrances that might provide some meaningful clues. So where are those clues?
At least with Roswell, there is surely enough evidence to indicate that something actually occurred. You can debate whether it was a test balloon, a test aircraft, or a spaceship. That’s one big step beyond what you can verify with Aztec and Kingman, beyond, as I said, the possibility that a test aircraft did crash near the latter.
I suppose it’s possible that Drew will be able to unearth some meaningful information beyond what he continues to report in his public lectures, private tours, and on that recent episode of The Paracast. But the supposed key witness, Stansel, died in 2006. He left scant documentation from the period beyond a couple of notations on a personal calendar that contained little of substance beyond a cryptic sentence, “Got picked up at Indian Springs AFB at 4:30 p.m. for a job I can’t talk about.”
That’s hardly enough to prove he was involved in anything related to the recovery of a crashed UFO, or even a job to clean out the base latrines.
But even if Drew fails to deliver the goods, no doubt some other enterprising UFO researcher will dig through the meager details yet again some years from now, and what is old will be new again. The same may be said about Aztec and other cases that appear less than compelling. It’s all about that vicious circle in the UFO field that never takes us anywhere.
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September 23, 2012
The Paracast Explores the Mysteries of Mars and the Moon with Mike Bara
Special Announcement: The Paracast is heard Sundays from 2:00 AM until 5:00 AM Central Time on the GCN Radio Network and affiliates around the USA, and online across the globe via download and on-demand streaming.
Please Send a Donation to The Paracast: Although ads help cover a small part of our expenses, the income they produce is never enough to pay your humble hosts decent wages. Also, we do not receive any revenue from the ads placed on the show by our network or local stations. So we hope you're able to help fill the gap, if you can, to help us cover increasing server costs and other expenses -- or perhaps provide a little extra cash for lunch and utility bills. No contribution is too small (or too large
. We have a Donate link on our home page, below the logo and audio player. There's also a Donate link on our forums, at the bottom of the sidebar on the right. Or just send your PayPal donation direct to sales (at) theparacast (dot) com.Attention U.S. Listeners: Help Us Bring The Paracast to Your City! In the summer of 2010, The Paracast joined the GCN radio network. This represented a huge step in bringing our show to a larger, mainstream audience. But we need your help to add additional affiliates to our growing network. Please ask one of your local talk stations if they are interested in carrying The Paracast. Feel free to contact us directly with the names of programming people we might be able to contact on your behalf. We can't do this alone, and if you succeed in convincing your local station to carry the show, we'll reward you with one of our special T-shirts, and other goodies. With your help, The Paracast can grow into one of the most popular paranormal shows on the planet!
Please Visit Our Online Store: You asked, and we answered. We are now taking orders for The Official Paracast T-Shirt and an expanded collection of other specially customized merchandise. To get your T-Shirt now featuring our brand new logo, just pay a visit to our online store at The Official Paracast Store to select your size and place your order. We also offer a complete lineup of other premium merchandise for your family, your friends and your business contacts.
About The Paracast: The Paracast covers a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions across the planet.
Set Up: The Paracast is a paranormal radio show that takes you on a journey to a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions. The Paracast seeks to shed light on the mysteries and complexities of our Universe and the secrets that surround us in our everyday lives.
Join long-time paranormal researcher Gene Steinberg, co-host and acclaimed field investigator Christopher O'Brien, and a panel of special guest experts and experiencers, as they explore the realms of the known and unknown. Listen each week to the great stories of the history of the paranormal field in the 20th and 21st centuries.
This Week's Episode: Gene and Chris present author/researcher Mike Bara, whose latest book, "Ancient Aliens on the Moon," was recently released by Adventures Unlimited Press. We'll also cover Mars mysteries. According to his bio, Mike is a New York Times Bestselling author and lecturer who began his writing career after spending more than 25 years as an engineering consultant for major aerospace companies, where he was a card-carrying member of the Military/Industrial complex.
Christopher O'Brien's Site: Our Strange Planet
Mike Bara's Site: Mike Bara
Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: The Paracast Community Forums. We recently completed a major update that makes our community easier to navigate, and social network friendly.
You Can’t Keep a Good UFO Story Down
By Gene Steinberg
All right, folks, I think I’ve given the people who favor the existence of an Aztec, NM UFO crash a fair hearing. I’ve also read Scott and Susanne Ramsey’s book covering years of research, “The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Heart Canyon,” and I tried to be fair and balanced on the subject. Although I had some personal concerns about the scope of their evidence, I was willing to put the affair in the gray basket; neither proven or disproven.
My review of the book in this newsletter concluded that believers will continue to believe, but skeptics will remain skeptical. When one of the Aztec critics, Kevin D. Randle, wrote a scathing criticism of the book on his blog, I hoped the Ramseys would be quick to issue a response. I even invited them to join Chris and I on The Paracast to debate Randle. Perhaps they could address Randle’s concerns and change some minds.
Unfortunately, they didn’t respond to my email or phone call. Nothing. The book remains on sale, but no rebuttal appears on the site the Ramseys set up for the title’s promotion. It hasn’t even been offered for sale at Amazon, which is a trivial process, even for a self-publisher. Curious, inasmuch as the book recounts what appears to be their life’s work, the result of spending what they claim is over half a million dollars to get to the bottom of the mystery.
Maybe they are working on that response, and I look forward to reading it. But this may be just another UFO legend that fails to pass muster. Certainly if their evidence is as compelling as they believe it to be, they’d make quick work of the objections of Randle and other non-believers. But they haven’t, at least so far.
But that won’t stop yet another researcher some time in the future from dredging up the work of Frank Scully, William Steinman, and Scott and Susanne Ramsey, and making new claims that the Aztec, NM crash legend has substance. At this point, it’s a difficult sell. Maybe there is more evidence out there, yet undiscovered, that would prove a flying saucer really crashed in Aztec back in 1948, but it doesn’t appear as if such evidence is going to be any more compelling than what’s already out there, and that material is mighty flimsy.
Then there are the reports of possible UFO crashes at Kingman, AZ. Well, maybe not in Kingman itself, but in the Arizona desert some distance away. Unfortunately, when you look into this case, you end up with something that’s less than the sum of the parts.
Take, for example, the interviews with an alleged witness, someone who went by the name Fritz Werner, but he later turned out to be a World War II veteran by the name of Arthur G. Stansel, Jr. Now it seems that Stansel’s stories about a crashed object at Kingman seemed to become more extravagant as he consumed more and more martinis. Without actual written documentation confirming that a sighting or series of sightings ever took place in that location, it’s hard to take this story seriously.
In recent years, Harry Drew, who describes himself as a “former Director of Museums of History, Anthropology and Archaeology, a Cultural Resource Specialist [and] newspaper columnist,” has been engaged in his own investigation of possible UFO incidents at Kingman. But in his interview on The Paracast, he seemed to rely fairly heavily on Stansel’s questionable claims.
Drew presented an elaborate tale involving a crash landing and subsequent crashes at Kingman, claiming that the wreckage was carted off to such places as the military installation that later become known as Area 51.
Fortean researcher Nick Redfern, one of our friendly Paracast guest co-hosts, is suggesting there may have actually been a crash at Kingman in 1953 all right, but it involved a test aircraft that carried a chimpanzee. The very mundane episode was extrapolated over the years to morph into the landing of a spaceship piloted by a tiny alien.
I remain skeptical that investigations into the Kingman episode or episodes will ever provide compelling evidence of a genuine UFO event. The problem is that the documentation, such as it is, can be largely traced to a couple of interviews published in the 1970s, one coming from noted UFO writer Ray Fowler. There hasn’t been much follow up, and it’s not that there are witnesses to be found to confirm the story. Certainly it’s recent enough for some of the elderly residents in and around Kingman to deliver some remembrances that might provide some meaningful clues. So where are those clues?
At least with Roswell, there is surely enough evidence to indicate that something actually occurred. You can debate whether it was a test balloon, a test aircraft, or a spaceship. That’s one big step beyond what you can verify with Aztec and Kingman, beyond, as I said, the possibility that a test aircraft did crash near the latter.
I suppose it’s possible that Drew will be able to unearth some meaningful information beyond what he continues to report in his public lectures, private tours, and on that recent episode of The Paracast. But the supposed key witness, Stansel, died in 2006. He left scant documentation from the period beyond a couple of notations on a personal calendar that contained little of substance beyond a cryptic sentence, “Got picked up at Indian Springs AFB at 4:30 p.m. for a job I can’t talk about.”
That’s hardly enough to prove he was involved in anything related to the recovery of a crashed UFO, or even a job to clean out the base latrines.
But even if Drew fails to deliver the goods, no doubt some other enterprising UFO researcher will dig through the meager details yet again some years from now, and what is old will be new again. The same may be said about Aztec and other cases that appear less than compelling. It’s all about that vicious circle in the UFO field that never takes us anywhere.
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