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pls provide feed back on this case as well as posting what you concider the best case of an acual alien visitation.
STS 80 both segments of that UFO footage, i have never seen , read or heard a half adequate explanation for those UFOs, and is the only footage ive ever seen that unsettles me.
I spent tens of hours over weeks and weeks researching sts75 tether footage, j knew it wasnt ice crystals like oberg was trying to convince me it was, in the end he begrudgingly admits it was more likely a micro-meteor strike of a tile.
Jim was trying to flog the idea that a waste water dump had stayed with the shuttle from 6 hours earlier, then when shown several different nasa studies that showed how wrong he was, he went for several other sources for the ice, again i shot him down one by one due to the type of experiments, and new extra piping and switcher valves being installed for flights 73 and 75, he had no idea about any of the technical stuff like that, give him his due thought, once proven categorically wrong, he does eventually acknowledge it, and thanks you for the proper research as he called it, and eventually admitted occams razor made one of the 109 micro meteorite strikes on that mission far more likely than ice could ever have been, for the out of focus debris, UFOs around the tether effect, literally striking and propelling the debris shower upwards, and then gravity taking its toll, accounting for all the parabolic arcing you see in the footage.
I fancied myself against hm to be honest after i read his prosaic explanation,
See the tether was 50 miles higher than the shuttle and an average for the footage of 100 nautical miles away, so it didnt add up to me, jim said the ice crystals rose up into the shadow of the shuttle yada yada, and the footage was shot through them as they dropped away behind the shuttle,
A perfectly reasonable explanation to a lay person like me, from a houston flight control professional, but something wasnt right, i knew it wasnt right but couldnt put my finger on it,but when i realised what was wrong, i knew he was lying, not mistaken, plain lying, as with his experience, he knew full well he was lying.
I dont even mean the ice survival issue.
Any shuttle debris drops away down an infront of the shuttle in low earth orbit, it cannot do anything else, gravity still pulls it back down, however its still orbiting at 17.5k mph same as the shuttle, in a decreasing orbit, getting lower and further infront of the shuttle every hour, and anybody involved in flight control would know that basic fact.
The fact that he went into denial about the basic schoolboy physics of it, was why i knew he was being deliberately deceitful, and has coloured my view of both staunch skeptics and woo peddlers alike, most will lie and deceive, too the same extremes, god alone only knows why.
He assumed no-one would twig-on, and naturally assume that debris would indeed just fall away behind the shuttle without giving it a second thought.
Whereas you now know it is the exact opposite that happens in LEO.
Theres different degrees of wrong, so most times people are not completely wrong, just mistaken, in jims case i had someone who was constantly reminding me of his qualifications, 100 percent wrong on the LEO Physics, and defending it, until constantly confronted with NASAs own documentation, and could deny the fact no more.
Take a look at the sts 80 footage, this in theory this is not as complicated as sts 75, as you dont need a copy of the execute package, but i have never been able to fathom it.
