I suppose that if you were the one whos house was being haunted then you might feel differently. If you were the one who had these entities after you then you might look at this in a different light.If you had seen the girl then maybe you would see this whole thing differently. It is extremely condescending to come here and say that if it didn't happen to you or you can't prove it then it doesn't exist or unless it happens to you it doesn't exist. What would constitute proof in your eyes? If a ghost pinches you on the ass you will say it was the bedcovers.....seriously...man, what works for you?
You're putting words in my mouth here, I never said this didn't happen to the guy, clearly he saw something he can't explain, I can't explain it either, but neither can you. All anyone can do is guess and I never said anything about your guesses, just your garbage theory about demons waiting around for us to clear our minds so they can jump in and take control. It's nonsense dude. Pure and simple. It's your bias against any religion that isn't Christianity or Mormonism or whatever you believe in. Maybe I would feel differently if something like that had happened to me, but it never has so what does that matter? I call em like I see em and as far as this guy's story goes I make no call, because I don't know enough. If a ghost pinched me on the ass I would be forced to believe in ghosts, is that good enough for you? I'll wait for that to happen.
I am probably in agreement with you believe it or not when it comes to being skeptical about some of the claims made about ghosts/demons/stories about NDE. But there are spiritual forces out there both good and bad. Just because you haven't yet seen them doesn't mean that they are not there.Really the last thing anyone wants is a haunting or an attachment from a demonic entity. I would hate for you to find out about it that way.
Oh I'm sure you are skeptical about certain stories, especially NDE's that don't agree with your absolute certainty about what awaits us in the afterlife. I'm sorry man, I don't believe in spiritual forces besides those invented in the minds of human beings, period. I doubt I ever will.
In the post you mentioned me saying I hate when that happens, in that example the woman said they had pictures and video BUT they were now missing or stolen or erased....yeah right. If you told me you had video of a ghost but it came up missing guess what? I would say the same thing.If you say you have proof but the proof suddenly disappears I smell a rat every time.
I'm with you on this one, I find it very convenient when investigators claim they had undeniable proof in their hands and then it mysteriously disappeared. It's nonsense.
UFOs are the comfort zone of the paranormal. The investigators think that they can neatly put it all into a scientific box but I beg to differ. Investigators in UFOs may get their hands dirty in the spiritual world at times,unless they totally ignore some of the aerial phenomina that occurs. Scientifically probable yes. The study of UFOs is at the base level things in the sky that we don't know what they are, heck that's WIDE berth.The possible classification of all of those things is huge as you well know.Going into an investigation for a murder and rejecting some of the evidence is ignorant.But that's what some are doing with UFOs.
You see, this is where you lose me. What in the world are you even talking about? What does the spiritual have to do with things in the sky that may or may not be alien spacecraft? Angel chariots? Demon saucers? I have no idea what you're even talking about and further more I've yet to see any kind of evidence for UFO's that couldn't be explained as either a potential alien craft or misidentified earthly phenomena. Your analogy is total nonsense, in a murder investigation nobody goes in thinking "this might have been done by supernatural forces that can't be explained" so why should anyone do that with UFO's when everything that has been observed likely has a scientific basis either now or in the possible technology of the future?
You say you have no interest in the spiritual part of the paranormal and you don't have conclusive proof, yet we have unexplained video of something. We have people who have taken on a different persona who have played with witchcraft,these people have asked something to come to them and it did. The story the exorcist is based on is factual and documented. How much proof do you want? The thousands of investigators who go looking for something and find something. You must agree it is something even if you don't know what it is.
Once again you're jumping to conclusions, what unexplained video are you talking about? Every single ghost video that I've ever seen has been explained away as hoaxes or video artifacts and I've seen a literal shit ton of video. Your point about the exorcist goes back to what I said in the first place, the human brain is a very fallible organ. Not only that but we also have cases where it's been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that people weren't possessed, they were just mentally ill, so you do the math. What's more likely, the existence of supernatural realms that can't be proven and have no real explanation OR mental illness and outright hoaxes? Somebodies story doesn't constitute what I'm looking for which is undeniable, physical proof. If there really was this vast spiritual realm and these things to quote you "happen all the time" surely proof wouldn't be that hard to find, yet we still have none, just a lot of stories.
Concerning opening yourself up to eastern religions . You only rely on your own experiences for this like millions of other people you never had it happen to you therefore you think the idea is absurd. I was very careful on numerous times to state that in most cases yoga and martial arts never get beyond a certain point. There are lots of different persuasions of martial arts. Some of those can indeed open the wrong doors.Satan worship is usually what opens the door. This hasn't happened to you because you haven't pursued it and I sincerely hope you don't. Opening up oneself to whatever is there can indeed be a calling card to it. Think about it for a minute. What does an enemy do to break down prisoners in war. They try to break the will through sleep deprivation food rationing and torture. They want to empty you first so that they can fill you up with their ideas. They want to break you physically,emotionally and spiritually. This is the same thing that cults do, they wear down gullible weak people...go a small step further now and look at what some of these religions do. They want to empty you. Nothing is better to them than some lum nuts sitting there opening it all up ....here I am come and get me.Better yet get high before you go into it. You'll be almost like a mannequinn. It does happen. You go looking for it, you invite it in and then people wonder how it happened. They say things like, "GOSH I have no idea what happened, I grabbed that donkey by the tail and pulled it and he kicked me!" Watch a bonifide voodoo dance sometime after several hours at around three in the morning and tell me what you see.
Once again you show your religious bias, what in the hell (pardon the pun) does satanism have to do with the martial arts? I've never met any satanic martial artists and I doubt you have either, this is typical fundie paranoia that every evil in this world is caused by some mythical devil and people aren't evil, just influenced by demons or whatever. It's crap. Just like the clearing your mind thing is total crap in my opinion and frankly I'm tired of addressing it, you have your opinion and I have mine, when you say something I don't agree with I'll make my opinion known, that's how internet forums work ffs. On another note and I'm sure this will shock you but back in the day I have done that very thing you talk about in this paragraph, I've gotten high and done martial arts and I've gotten high and meditated. Clearly, I should be teeming with demons and yet, I'm not. Further proof that it's total crap and people that believe this kind of thing are people that believe black cats crossing their path is bad luck or whatever. I don't believe in voodoo anymore than I believe in demons or Christianity so I doubt watching a voodoo dance would impress me at all.
If you would stop talking down to me you might really start to see something. I learned long ago that providing proof to people like you usually results in nothing because you don't know proof when you see it,or you conveniently decide not to see it.
If you would stop bringing your religious bias into every single thing you post about on this forum I'd probably have a lot less to say to you. I've asked you for proof on a number of occasions and you've provided nothing of the sort, and I'll continue to ask for proof and make my opinions known as long as you're here so if you don't like it I suggest you move along or you develop a thicker skin. I don't have anything against you personally, but I do think some of your opinions are ridiculous and it's my right to say so if I feel that way, you can counter all you want or you can ignore me, this is how the internet works, everyone doesn't always agree with each other. My only real problem with you is your certainty that you know things that nobody really knows for sure. Faith does not equal proof, period. We could both be way off on our interpretations of this world, the difference is I admit that. Can you?
