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[Randall]

I hate immigrants also not legal ones but illegal ones.

That's rather dark. How did you get that way?

 

[Richard Hawkins]

That's rather dark. How did you get that way?

Because Randall illegal immigrants that come to the UK and Ireland are usually from countries that want to form an Islamic state. They are also put into hotels get three meals a Day and a weekly allowance. That is more than I or most of my fellow pensioners get and the majority of us have worked all our lives and paid into the system. In Northern Ireland they are also if their immigration status is approved are prioritised over people who were born here for social housing.

 

[Burnt State]

Well I will echo @Tyger 's statement about treating people with respect . In the context of a forum I'd rather talk Bigfoot than argue sex, politics or religion; because, I live in a different reality when it comes to Trump or any right wing ideology. I'm a straight white male, married to a Chinese family and born to the first ever refugees from WWII Europe. I know from my family histories what it means to be a displaced person and flee tyranny. My immigrant grandparents and wife's immigrant family worked their asses off to provide for the generations that followed. As a consequence I do think that people displaced by the horrors of war need extra care and grace from countries who have the capacity to do so.

Unlike them I do not believe in God. But I believe all who walk this planet are divine beings in all their infinite diversities from age to sex and gender, race, class and geographical location. I also think all life forms on this planet and the planet itself is a living being equally worthy of respect, as is any other divine being.

And so long as you are not imposing your beliefs on me or indoctrinating my children or restricting.the freedoms of others, especially freedom of speech and expression of identity, then we will get along fine. I think all religious fundamentalism and extremism is as kooky as extremist political beliefs. But I suppose that's a sliding scale for some.

My historical research tells me that neighbourhoods, cities, nations and corporations are more productive, more profitable, more educated, healthier, happier and less violent when all our diversities are mixed together and live and work that way - especially classes. You want to get rid of methadone addiction and violent crime in your neighbourhood then love your neighbour, no matter where they come from or who they are, and house them no matter the cost. Look to Finland for the model here. Even conservative mayors there adopt a homes first strategy to deal with addiction and crime on an economic scale.

My pragmatic practicality tells me that society spends way less money on housing and feeding people than picking up dead bodies off the street or dealing with all the costs of violent crime.

Do what thou wilt. Love is the whole of the law.

I'm not going to talk about any of this anymore. Post what you will. I'll stick to Bigfoot and UFO's and ignore the rest. Peace.

 

[Richard Hawkins]

Well I will echo @Tyger 's statement about treating people with respect . In the context of a forum I'd rather talk Bigfoot than argue sex, politics or religion; because, I live in a different reality when it comes to Trump or any right wing ideology. I'm a straight white male, married to a Chinese family and born to the first ever refugees from WWII Europe. I know from my family histories what it means to be a displaced person and flee tyranny. My immigrant grandparents and wife's immigrant family worked their asses off to provide for the generations that followed. As a consequence I do think that people displaced by the horrors of war need extra care and grace from countries who have the capacity to do so.

Unlike them I do not believe in God. But I believe all who walk this planet are divine beings in all their infinite diversities from age to sex and gender, race, class and geographical location. I also think all life forms on this planet and the planet itself is a living being equally worthy of respect, as is any other divine being.

And so long as you are not imposing your beliefs on me or indoctrinating my children or restricting.the freedoms of others, especially freedom of speech and expression of identity, then we will get along fine. I think all religious fundamentalism and extremism is as kooky as extremist political beliefs. But I suppose that's a sliding scale for some.

My historical research tells me that neighbourhoods, cities, nations and corporations are more productive, more profitable, more educated, healthier, happier and less violent when all our diversities are mixed together and live and work that way - especially classes. You want to get rid of methadone addiction and violent crime in your neighbourhood then love your neighbour, no matter where they come from or who they are, and house them no matter the cost. Look to Finland for the model here. Even conservative mayors there adopt a homes first strategy to deal with addiction and crime on an economic scale.

My pragmatic practicality tells me that society spends way less money on housing and feeding people than picking up dead bodies off the street or dealing with all the costs of violent crime.

Do what thou wilt. Love is the whole of the law.

I'm not going to talk about any of this anymore. Post what you will. I'll stick to Bigfoot and UFO's and ignore the rest. Peace.

Look I will also obtain from this subject but let me make it clear I have Muslim.Hindu and Seik friends who came here in the 60s and 70s and integrated into our society and who all agree.

 

[Richard Hawkins]

Look I will also obtain from this subject but let me make it clear I have Muslim.Hindu and Seik friends who came here in the 60s and 70s and integrated into our society and who all agree.

One other thing burnt state I was raised by a socialist which is why I did not grow up to be a loyalist bigot and married a Catholic.i call it as I genuinely see it

 

[Randall]

Because Randall illegal immigrants that come to the UK and Ireland are usually from countries that want to form an Islamic state. They are also put into hotels get three meals a Day and a weekly allowance. That is more than I or most of my fellow pensioners get and the majority of us have worked all our lives and paid into the system. In Northern Ireland they are also if their immigration status is approved are prioritised over people who were born here for social housing.

At least that is describing a particular issue with respect to a specific place rather than "all immigrants", and I can certainly understand the frustration with the situation you describe. The politics in the UK right now would make me want to emigrate — probably here. If that wasn't possible, I'd be doing what I could to oppose the policies I didn't agree with. However, I've never actually hated anyone or anything in my life, and can't imagine what that must be like.

 

[Randall]

MIT Physics Professor Assassinated ?

 

[Richard Hawkins]

At least that is describing a particular issue with respect to a specific place rather than "all immigrants", and I can certainly understand the frustration with the situation you describe. The politics in the UK right now would make me want to emigrate — probably here. If that wasn't possible, I'd be doing what I could to oppose the policies I didn't agree with. However, I've never actually hated anyone or anything in my life, and can't imagine what that must be like.

Randall I used the word hate loosely and probably do not articulate what I am saying properly. Let me explain further because as you say hate is an extreme word. I would say closer to dislike. I as someone who has worked for fifty three years and who paid tax and national insurance get a state pension of £230 pound per week. I have had to wait 27 years to get social housing. However an illegal immigrant arriving on my shores today will be put up in a four or three star hotel get with immediate effect and allowance of £159 per week per person and be fed three meals today. That is my anger.Oh by the way my American wife of 21 years who has a half visa gets fuck all

 

[Richard Hawkins]

Randall I used the word hate loosely and probably do not articulate what I am saying properly. Let me explain further because as you say hate is an extreme word. I would say closer to dislike. I as someone who has worked for fifty three years and who paid tax and national insurance get a state pension of £230 pound per week. I have had to wait 27 years to get social housing. However an illegal immigrant arriving on my shores today will be put up in a four or three star hotel get with immediate effect and allowance of £159 per week per person and be fed three meals today. That is my anger.Oh by the way my American wife of 21 years who has a half visa gets fuck all

Plus out of my £230 pension I have to pay £50 per week social housing rent.