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DamnDirtyApe said:...It's conceivable that ETs are simply so advanced and alien to our understanding that they will NEVER treat us as peers to be "welcomed into the brotherhood of the galaxy blah blah blah" ...
DamnDirtyApe said:...Same thing with us having access to their technology. Although from time to time I'm sure chimps in the wild do come across an old tire or tent left behind by people. ...
truthseeker said:I find Steve to be a bit overly optimistic about goverment disclosure. I applaud his effort and what he's doing, but I highly doubt that our goverment, democrats or republicans, would touch this subject with a 10-foot pole. I hope that I'm wrong, but I've seen this sort of optimism before, which pretty much ammounted to nothing.
Gene Steinberg said:This time he seemed somewhat more reasonable, but his optimism isn't something I share. We have over 50 years of attempts to bring about disclosure, starting with the late Major Donald E. Keyhoe in the 1950s. It all came to naught.
On the other hand, I did deliver a theory in this week's issue of The Paracast Newsletter, where I felt disclosure might already been happening, but the process is so gradual you won't really notice it until the end game is invoked, whatever that is.
Gene Steinberg said:This time he seemed somewhat more reasonable, but his optimism isn't something I share. We have over 50 years of attempts to bring about disclosure, starting with the late Major Donald E. Keyhoe in the 1950s. It all came to naught.
schticknz said:I really wanted Steven Bassett to be taken to task over such naivete and his total belief in the ET hypothesis. It didn't happen this time, maybe next time?? 8)
CapnG said:Regarding contact and our place in the universe, I have never understood this automatic assumption that aliens must be thousands of years ahead of us in terms of evolution or technology. It just doesn't wash. Look at where we are now in our history and compare it to 200 years ago, then 100, then 50, 20, 10 and now. See the trend? I assume we're all familiar with the concept of technological singularity by now. Try and picture humanity in 50 years. I actually CAN'T DO IT. I have no freaking clue what life on this earth will be like by then. At this point, I wouldn't rule out anything up to and including star travel. But will we be that much different as a species, that much better? Not likely. Why then should aliens be so much better than us?
DamnDirtyApe said:A) If plain vanilla ET's have been here since the earliest days of mankind then they are, by definition, much much farther along than us. If they have engineered us, then difference becomes enormous. As in they were advanced enough to come here 100K years ago or whatever and fiddle with proto-humans.
DamnDirtyApe said:B) Statistically I think it's more likely they would be millions or years apart from each other. Anything's possible, but if I had to take a wild guess (which we all do at the end of the day), I just dont see us as anywhere near one another along the scale.
DamnDirtyApe said:Supposedly we'd all have flying cars
DamnDirtyApe said:androids
DamnDirtyApe said:be living in giant floating cities by now.
DamnDirtyApe said:Certain technological advances are likely many magnitudes of difficulty beyond artifical intelligence and nano-bots.
DamnDirtyApe said:Mastering the human genome and building android bodies is childsplay compared to FTL travel.
DamnDirtyApe said:It's pointless to speculate on their nature, but something like benevolence and compassion for lower life forms is all we can hope for.
CapnG said:Well that's the problem isn't it; we can't see the scale to know where we are on it. To turn my point around though, say we'd cracked the FTL problem and suddenly we could be anywhere, so if we were to go into space and discover a society at a point we recognize as being roughly 50 years behind us how far ahead would they assume we are?
CapnG said:I've often felt that sci-fi is pretty backward. We have almost everything that has been considered "futuristic" by hollywood over the years RIGHT NOW. FTL will probably be the last "great" innovation for quite some time. On the other hand someone could figure it out tomorrow... [
The Hawk said:It will take very little to set off the average Christian fundamentalist into believing these are demons we should terrorize.
I find Steve to be a bit overly optimistic about goverment disclosure.