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Randall

J. Randall Murphy
Staff member
Well Epoch Times is one of the lesser right-wing fringe sites. There are others with almost reasonable respect for facts.
From what I can tell, the story is factual. The lawyers are going to use the examples they cite. Whether those examples are substantial is another matter, and ET doesn't go into that, so it's not really misreporting. I commented on one of their YouTube videos that although they claim to be unbiased, they're not, and they need to separate that bias from their news reporting, otherwise people are going to see through it.

You and I both see through it, so we can look at the stories and say to ourselves, "So that's what the other side is thinking. Interesting. I wonder how that will go." There was a scene in the movie Finding Forrester that explains it well:

So now the saga continues ...

Trump Mulling Whether to Launch Own Social Media Platform, Says Jason Miller​



See what I mean :p Perfect !
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
False equivalence. The right-wing fringe is far more capable and guilty of selective omission and outright lies and sometimes hate speech. Check Politifact, a non-partisan fact-checker, to see.
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
Staff member
False equivalence. The right-wing fringe is far more capable ...
You mean more capable than the far left-wing fringe? Either way the ET isn't "far-right". It's been deemed so by those who want to discredit it. But it looks to me to just a have a moderate prevailing right-wing bias. That's no big deal. But in case you didn't know, YouTube recently defunded their advertising revenue, apparently without citing a specific reason ( last time I checked ), but allegedly for violating their TOS in some way or another that is linked to their coverage of the election fraud claims.
... and guilty of selective omission and outright lies and sometimes hate speech.
The "far-right" certainly doesn't hold a monopoly on any of that. ANTIFA is far-left and there's more wherever they came from:
Check Politifact, a non-partisan fact-checker, to see.
Sure. That's seems like a pretty good source for most stuff.
 
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Constance

Paranormal Adept
You mean more capable than the far left-wing fringe? Either way the ET isn't "far-right". It's been deemed so by those who want to discredit it. But it looks to me to just a have a moderate prevailing right-wing bias. That's no big deal. But in case you didn't know, YouTube recently defunded their advertising revenue, apparently without citing a specific reason ( last time I checked ), but allegedly for violating their TOS in some way or another that is linked to their coverage of the election fraud claims.

The "far-right" certainly doesn't hold a monopoly on any of that. ANTIFA is far-left and there's more wherever they came from:

You should read the wikipedia page on Antifa for a more detailed and rational understanding of that movement vis a vis the racist and increasingly fascistic right wing in this country:

Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia
 
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Randall

J. Randall Murphy
Staff member
You should read the wikipedia page on Antifa for a more detailed and rational understanding of that movement vis a vis the racist and increasingly fascistic right wing in this country:

Antifa (United States) - Wikipedia
Thanks for the link. I'll do that. I've read a bunch of other stuff and some videos. Not sure if you caught the one I posted about the ex-AntiFa activist or the author who has written a book about the movement ( for lack of a better term ). I'd never even heard of it until @marduk brought it up one day. In the meantime is there some point you were hoping to make in suggesting that I read it? If so I'll attempt to focus on the content relevant to it.
 

Constance

Paranormal Adept
Thanks for the link. I'll do that. I've read a bunch of other stuff and some videos. Not sure if you caught the one I posted about the ex-AntiFa activist or the author who has written a book about the movement ( for lack of a better term ). I'd never even heard of it until @marduk brought it up one day. In the meantime is there some point you were hoping to make in suggesting that I read it? If so I'll attempt to focus on the content relevant to it.
The article is lengthy and informative all the way through, so I'd suggest reading all of it for full comprehension.
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
Staff member
The article is lengthy and informative all the way through, so I'd suggest reading all of it for full comprehension.
I did. Interesting how there have ( allegedly ) been some right-wing groups pulling stunts and blaming it on AntiFa.

"There have been multiple efforts to discredit antifa groups via hoaxes on social media,​
many of them false flag attacks originating from alt-right and 4chan users posing as antifa​
backers on Twitter."​
And in response: Fox News Commentators Claim Antifa Were Posing As MAGA Supporters

One thing I'm not in agreement with is that anarchists should be lumped-in with AntiFa in such a generalized way. I don't believe the general characterization of anarchism in Wikipedia does the subject justice. Conflating "political anarchism" with Philosophical Anarchism is like conflating Nazism with Conservatism.
Did you get a chance to watch either of the videos I posted?


 
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Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
Speaking of Trump, here's what qualifies as his defense in the impeachment trial:


I laughed out loud when I read some of those statements from Castor, and it takes a lot to make me do that.
 

Randall

J. Randall Murphy
Staff member
As I said, we live in two different realities.
Has nobody down there attempted to conceive of a solution? The clip isn't the best Seth has done, but some of the content, even though liberally biased, still makes me shake my head in amazement. Is the polarization driven by the polarization in the media? Is there no voice of reason?
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
The mainstream or corporate media largely tries to do a good job within the constraints of needing to build ratings and get advertising dollars. I come from the mainstream media, although my experience is years back. While editorial policies may differ, they want to present the news as accurately as possible. The big problem is an over-emphasis on fairness that often lets downright lies get through from politicians and others with axes to grind.

Fox News, and to a larger extent Newsmax and others are pushing a conservative agenda facts be damned. In terms of balance, CNN is actually closer despite having prime time opinion commentators with a liberal bent. Same for the traditional outlets, such as the Washington Post and New York Times. MSNBC is often regarded as a liberal brand, but it's morning prime time host is a former conservative member of the U.S. Congress, and one of its midday anchors is the former Communications Director for a Republican President.
 

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