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Sure, the ads help capitalize the forums and show - I'm perfectly ok with that.

There are just certain ones that are more objectionable than others. No, I'm not talking about prostate health or dating: I'm talking about the Mac software. It's just dirty and it has no place in polite society (like walking into a room and speaking French for no reason).

And those Mac packets... Filthy. Chatty. They bump into proper packets and clog up the network.


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it is obvious that you are trolling here but i will bite anyway.
i would not even try to run my business on a pc OR using Xubuntu 9.04. IMO, windows sucks and i have no time to figure out Xubuntu 9.04. altho if i needed to utilize a pc application i could easily install windows on my mac and it would work just fine. it is great to have options.
 
I miss dBase III and Lotus 123 version 1A. Shit, I miss Applesoft BASIC and CP/M, too. The closest I can get to that really old stuff is....Linux!
 
Erm.... slightly offtopic here, but having been a salve to microsoft all my life (except for my first pc, and Apple 2), and hearing David and Gene bang on about how good Apple's are I have been tempted to buy a Mac.

However I have many things I want to learn about them before I buy like:
  • how easy are they to upgrade hardware on etc
  • can I use normal software on them
and so forth. Now being a Computing graduate you would think I might know these answers but I can honestly say I have never even thought about a mac until recently, let alone used one.... its never crossed my mind.

Where would be a good and reliable place for me to find such information?

Thanks!
 
Hoffmeister said:
Erm.... slightly offtopic here, but having been a salve to microsoft all my life (except for my first pc, and Apple 2), and hearing David and Gene bang on about how good Apple's are I have been tempted to buy a Mac.

However I have many things I want to learn about them before I buy like:
  • how easy are they to upgrade hardware on etc
  • can I use normal software on them
and so forth. Now being a Computing graduate you would think I might know these answers but I can honestly say I have never even thought about a mac until recently, let alone used one.... its never crossed my mind.

Where would be a good and reliable place for me to find such information?

Thanks!
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it is very easy to upgrade hardware.

normal software? not sure what you mean. i have 30 grand worth of what i consider normal software.

there are many places to find out about Macs. start here: Apple - Get a Mac - Why you'll love a Mac
 
I don't agree that it's easy to upgrade hardware on a Mac, unless you have a Mac Pro. I have an iMac and all I can upgrade easily is the RAM. However, I bought an iMac with that in mind.
I was a PC guy until 2003 and then I got an iBook. I never had a computer that made creating my music so simple. I love my iMac. I had to help someone set up a PC the other day and I figured that an HP would be pretty simple to set up... I was very wrong.

So, how's 'bout them UFOs, eh?
 
Angel of Ioren said:
I don't agree that it's easy to upgrade hardware on a Mac, unless you have a Mac Pro. I have an iMac and all I can upgrade easily is the RAM. However, I bought an iMac with that in mind.
I was a PC guy until 2003 and then I got an iBook. I never had a computer that made creating my music so simple. I love my iMac. I had to help someone set up a PC the other day and I figured that an HP would be pretty simple to set up... I was very wrong.

So, how's 'bout them UFOs, eh?
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Apple goes by the theory that most people rarely upgrade their computers, beyond RAM. They make that easy on most models, except for the entry-level Mac mini, which starts at $599. For that, you need a putty knife or a similar implement. Wait, I'm totally serious!

Otherwise, it's an easy process. In addition, upgrading the hard drives on Mac notebooks has become fairly trivial as well, because that's a quick way to boost performance.

As you observe, simple setups can befuddle Windows users, whereas they are mostly seamless on the Mac. Indeed, Apple provides drivers for thousands of popular printers, so it's a rare model indeed -- mostly a multifunction device -- where you have to install anything. This surprised a friend, who bought a Mac mini and a MacBook recently. When I visited his home, I showed him how his Canon printer was already recognized by the Mac mini. Since his MacBook would network wirelessly, we set up printer sharing on the Mac mini, a 15-second process if that, and then we were able to print not just from his MacBook, but from my 17-inch MacBook Pro when it accessed his wireless network. He was overjoyed!
 
There was no convincing my father in law to get a Mac, although he does do my taxes and my provincial government's website REQUIRES IE 6 or higher to be allowed access. I still don't understand how that makes any sense, but this is a province that has a budget for a language police.

I must say though, that he did get a lot of stuff for what he paid. 8gigs of RAM and a terabyte HD for under $1000. Too bad it doesn't run OS X - I'll take that over 6gigs of RAM that I'll never use.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
There was no convincing my father in law to get a Mac, although he does do my taxes and my provincial government's website REQUIRES IE 6 or higher to be allowed access. I still don't understand how that makes any sense, but this is a province that has a budget for a language police.

I must say though, that he did get a lot of stuff for what he paid. 8gigs of RAM and a terabyte HD for under $1000. Too bad it doesn't run OS X - I'll take that over 6gigs of RAM that I'll never use.
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It's easy to install Windows on any current Mac using Boot Camp. That a computer has a big hard drive and lots of RAM doesn't mean a thing if the rest of the features are sub-par, as they usually are for cheap Windows boxes.
 
Gene Steinberg said:
It's easy to install Windows on any current Mac using Boot Camp. That a computer has a big hard drive and lots of RAM doesn't mean a thing if the rest of the features are sub-par, as they usually are for cheap Windows boxes.
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Gene, if I had a dime for every time I told him that I wouldn't be at work surfing the paracast forums.
I get into debates with hardcore PC users about why I prefer Macs, but they look at me as though I'm insane. I use a PC at work and Windows is good enough, but I really prefer OS X at home. That's all there is to it. Maybe Windows 7 will make me switch, but I doubt it.
 
Angel of Ioren said:
There was no convincing my father in law to get a Mac, although he does do my taxes and my provincial government's website REQUIRES IE 6 or higher to be allowed access. I still don't understand how that makes any sense, but this is a province that has a budget for a language police.
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That's from so called web designers that use non standard crap that MS comes up with. That's not what the web is all about, but MS needs a way to keep some leverage. Stuff a non standard web browser down people's throats, and then make people write code for it.

Now my father-in-law was an average PC user. He had a few Dells and an HP. I've been using Macs since about 1991. My wife was a PC user when we got married, but now she's your typical PC bashing Mac user! So after her dad figured that I worked with computers for a living (in the print/prepress field), he kept calling me to help solve his many PC problems. So his daughter talked him into getting a Mac, and he got a G5 iMac, and then a 17" MacBook pro! After a week or so of helping him get his bearings, I never hear from him anymore. Even his Lexmark all-in-one that he had to re-install the drivers every time he wanted to use it on the PC, worked flawlessly from day one.

He liked the MacBook pro so much that he gave the iMac to his mom!

I've run Windows, Linux and even BeOS on my Macs, and used to use SGI and Sun systems at work. Mac OS X is every bit as powerful as any of the Unix based OS's and a lot easier to use. I have buddies that always tell me how good Linux is, and wonder why I don't use it. Well you can't run Photoshop or Illustrator on Linux so...

My Mac is an old G4/Digital Audio from about 2000. I've updated the processor, added RAM and larger hard drives, and it still purrs like a kitten.

Oh yeah, and Steve Jobs is way cooler than that sweaty Monkey Boy! :D
 
Oh yeah, and Steve Jobs is way cooler than that sweaty Monkey Boy!
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Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers, Developers...

LMAO...
 
Bill Gates lists Vista 'innovations' Apple's had for years


And the very funny David Pogue...

NYT: Did Microsoft rip-off Apple Mac OS X in Windows Vista?

 
Gates is FOS in that "innovation" video cited above, and Balmer is the genius that predicted that the iPhone would not appeal to bidness users. He loves the Zune.


Of course, they're both worth many billions of dollars, so it's not like they actually give a shit about Microsoft at this point. Would you, in their shoes?

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