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Hubble Finds Mystery Object

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Astroboy said:
Hubble spots a object that appears and disappears in the middle of nowhere. Described as being like the flash of Star Wars Star Destroyer going into warp. Scientist have no clue to what it is.

Hubble: Hubble Finds Unidentified Object in Space, Scientists Puzzled

SkyandTelescope.com - News from Sky Telescope - Hubble Finds a Mystery Object
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It is the federation of light. There ships are on there way, run run,:D I hope it is true:p , the world needs a good kicking or a bolt of shock. It is highly unlikely to happen,Pity do. sometimes i love to get of this planet before we blow everything up.P.s I think now is the best time for ye aliens to come, or do i have to come looking for ye, it is a fine mess that ye have left us,only messing by the way:eek:
 
Well.. we will never know for sure, thanks to that nasty little issue of galactic scale vs velocity of light/information. Whatever that thing was, it happened between 130 (at the very least) and 11 billions years ago.

Space is the ultimate buzz kill, unless we figure out a way to work around lightspeed (not likely for a long long long time IMO).
 
Its The Borg, or another big bang starting another universe.

I think maybe, just maybe we really don't know jack-shit about the universe.
 
DamnDirtyApe said:
Well.. we will never know for sure, thanks to that nasty little issue of galactic scale vs velocity of light/information. Whatever that thing was, it happened between 130 (at the very least) and 11 billions years ago.

Space is the ultimate buzz kill, unless we figure out a way to work around lightspeed (not likely for a long long long time IMO).
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Yeah whenever I 'remember' about that little factoid I find myself just in absolute awe at the size of the universe.

It is so big that it is beyond the human brain to grasp. It really is. I mean, we can grasp it intellectually but I dont think we can really visualise the reality of the situation.
 
Aaron LeClair said:
Ok, how can the universe be 78 billion light years across, but only around 12 billion years old? This is in regards to Mike's vid he posted.
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they reckon its about 93 billion light years wide

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universe

as contemplating ones navel will reveal size and age are two different things

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im only guessing at this bit, but the mention of the big bang gave me an idea for a simple explaination.

say i took a small firecracker and put it on the floor with a camera on it and set it off, on replay in slow motion and at 4 seconds i could see the extent of the space the explosion has occupied, now i do this again using a grenade at 4 seconds the area occupied by the blast is much higher in volume because of the extra energy in the blast, im guessing its something along those lines
 
Aaron LeClair said:
Ok, how can the universe be 78 billion light years across, but only around 12 billion years old? This is in regards to Mike's vid he posted.
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Hmmm. Well, this is in the Wikipedia entry that Mike shared.

"...The universe has not been the same at all times in its history; for example, the relative populations of quasars and galaxies have changed and space itself appears to have expanded. This expansion accounts for how Earth-bound scientists can observe the light from a galaxy 30 billion light years away, even if that light has traveled for only 13 billion years; the very space between them has expanded."
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It's from Wikipedia, so buyer beware.
 
it is an interesting discrepancy.

for me ive never held with the speed of light being as fast as you can go idea.

it makes sense to me that the force of the big bang was so strong it was able to put matter at locations away from the source "faster" than the speed of light.

if this is true then the speed of light is about as significant as the top speed of a car, its just the upper limit of that particular form.

to my mind the fastest i can go (in this universe at this time) is much faster than the speed of light.

its 93 billion light years across so say i fix a point A on one side and a Point B 93 billion light years away on the other side.

if i went from A to B instantaniously thats no speed at all, but a nano fraction of a nano second short of instantanious is to my mind the fastest i can go. of course if the universe were 2093 billion lights years wide i could go "faster", but at this level the speed of light is left behind with the snails as an example of fast.

again no expert, just my guess, but id say at the moment of the bang, a lot of matter wound up where it was much faster than the speed of light
 
mike said:
it is an interesting discrepancy.

for me ive never held with the speed of light being as fast as you can go idea.


to my mind the fastest i can go (in this universe at this time) is much faster than the speed of light.
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That's not possible becuase you are made of matter. As your velocity of increases towards the speed of light, the energy required grows exponentially towards infinity. It would take an infinite amount of energy to move a single atom to light speed.

Because of space-time dialation, there is just no way around that limitation. Even something that works in the everyday world does not apply at relativistic speeds. For example you cannot just add 2 velocities of fast moving objects together to exceed lightspeed (like a bullet firing ahead from a fast moving train)

Light (or information if you prefer) is a set value as far as we know and does not change, at least not in this age of the universe. It's been speculated that the natural laws might have varied at the birth of the universe, but have now coalesced and stabilized. Of course that's only a theory. There is no other "form" of anything other than energy and matter. Well, in strange way there is nothing but energy, and matter is sort of "frozen" energy. Matter and energy are interchnageable as e=mc2 so famously shows.

Postulated things like wormhoes and such do not involve matter actually traveling faster than light through the space-time medium, they warp the medium to such a degree that it seems like the speed of light would have been violated had the object traveled along the curve of spacetime.
 
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