Göbekli Tepe

[mike]

True enough back on topic .. It was just I failed to see the relevance of bringing Christian dogma into the subject as you can well understand.

If you look at his posts since joining, its clear hes not really here to participate in the discussions, just to spam us with his dogma.

I hear these guys are looking for new members......

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140216/NEWS21/140216004?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1

We can only hope

 

[stonehart]

I just watched this on the TV a couple of weeks ago and I'm fairly certain that the documentary implied that the people of Gobeki Tepe were practicing a proto-Christian faith. And I ain't no Christian, and in no way do I support any pro-Christian statements made by others, so don't throw me to the lions.

No the site is way to early for that to be true, even the religions that form the roots of Christianity did not exist when this place was abandoned.

 

[stonehart]

If you look at his posts since joining, its clear hes not really here to participate in the discussions, just to spam us with his dogma.

I hear these guys are looking for new members......

http://www.tennessean.com/article/20140216/NEWS21/140216004?gcheck=1&nclick_check=1

We can only hope

HAHAHAHA I had a good chuckle at that

 

[pduchesne]

I think the researchers are floating the hypothesis that this was the beginning of the concept of religion, and therefor the prototype for all faiths. They probably did the scene in the Christian church for western audiences and cut that out for the Islamic countries, which shows how unimportant the link really is.
I suppose that even hunter gatherers have a vested interest in predicting the seasons, so the idea of the shadow calendar is interesting. I know that's what I thought when I first saw its resemblance to Stonehenge.

 

[mike]

True enough back on topic .. It was just I failed to see the relevance of bringing Christian dogma into the subject as you can well understand.

Anyway yes a calendar is a good explanation as it makes sense.. as an aside is there any reason why such a place could not be duel purpose? Modern humans tend to compartmentalize things/places but neolithic man was not so clear cut.

I think its reasonably likely the two would be combined.
A lot of the speculation suggests the timing coincides with agriculture.
Shadow calendars work very well in telling you when to plant a crop, esp when you consider there was no other way of keeping track of the date.
It would seem magical to those using the device (years and years after it was built) that these shadows would consistantly provide you with the data you need to do it right (plant seeds)
To the people of the time it might indeed seem as if these shadows were messages from the gods, thats the gods attention must be on this spot in order for the device to work

this book

Seed of Knowledge, Stone of Plenty: Understanding the Lost Technology of the Ancient Megalith-Builders: John Burke, Kaj Halberg: 9781571781840: Amazon.com: Books

Draws perhaps a long bow in regards to some aspects, (electrical stuff) but the basic premise that these sites are associated with seeds is imo valid.

The authors claim to have measured some interesting electrical properties
associated with European henges, North American Indian mounds and Meso-
American pyramids and temples, as well as some interesting constructions
made out of magnetite in northeastern North America. According to the
authors, the electrical properties of these sites serve to enhance
agricultural production considerably. Furthermore they claim that all of
the sites were built during a period of famine, and immediately after
they were built, there was a period of plenty for the society that built
them.
As for the reason for digging long ditches, certain soils carry
electrical current better than other, and currents do naturally flow and
subside through these soils daily as the earth turns and the magnetic
field of the earth reacts with the incoming flow of charged particles
from the sun. Also, these currents only go a few feet deep into the
earth. The ditches are dug in order to direct and concentrate the current
to increase the charge at a given point.

Lest one think that the authors are totally off their rocker, they
mention a modern company that has patented a charge device that treats
seed in the same way that these monument sites do and results in much
higher and earlier germination rates, faster maturity, more stress
resistance, and higher yields. Furthermore, Mayan farmers to this day
still use some of the old sites to "bless" their corn before planting..​

Again, i'm just speculating. But as a gardener myself i know that a calendar of some sort is a valuable tool when it comes to agriculture.

 

[stonehart]

I think the researchers are floating the hypothesis that this was the beginning of the concept of religion, and therefor the prototype for all faiths. They probably did the scene in the Christian church for western audiences and cut that out for the Islamic countries, which shows how unimportant the link really is.
I suppose that even hunter gatherers have a vested interest in predicting the seasons, so the idea of the shadow calendar is interesting. I know that's what I thought when I first saw its resemblance to Stonehenge.

Nice point.

I think its reasonably likely the two would be combined.
A lot of the speculation suggests the timing coincides with agriculture.
Shadow calendars work very well in telling you when to plant a crop, esp when you consider there was no other way of keeping track of the date.
It would seem magical to those using the device (years and years after it was built) that these shadows would consistantly provide you with the data you need to do it right (plant seeds)
To the people of the time it might indeed seem as if these shadows were messages from the gods, thats the gods attention must be on this spot in order for the device to work

this book

Seed of Knowledge, Stone of Plenty: Understanding the Lost Technology of the Ancient Megalith-Builders: John Burke, Kaj Halberg: 9781571781840: Amazon.com: Books

Draws perhaps a long bow in regards to some aspects, (electrical stuff) but the basic premise that these sites are associated with seeds is imo valid.



Again, i'm just speculating. But as a gardener myself i know that a calendar of some sort is a valuable tool when it comes to agriculture.

hahaha Mike astute as ever and as a keen gardener myself it makes a hell of a lot of sense.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Still think what's under the ocean is more the key rather than what up in the stars.

 

[manxman]

its not even remotely possible that 'alien bases' are in our oceans, without our militaries knowing about it, craft coming and going at will, not an iota of a reality, sorry.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

Who said alien ?

 

[pduchesne]

Still think what's under the ocean is more the key rather than what up in the stars.

I'd agree with this. The people who taught the GT people to carve stone probably lived in cities that are currently under about 80 feet of water.

 

[sabbaths]

"They’re on the Moon watching us!"

The Truth Of The Moon

Solstice Precessional Alignment (Galactic) - 1980, 1998, 2012, 2016
Galactic Alignment - 12/21/2012 - Solar Cycle 24 in 2012
(24 Lunar Months = 708 Days (29.5 x 24))
....................
2012 - 1980 = 32 Years (Sun)
708 Days - 32 Days = 676 Days (Moon)
.....................
12/21/2012 to 10/27/2014 = 676 Days Total

Baktun 0 - 8/11/3113mo B.C. to 11/12/2719we B.C. 144,002 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 1 - 11/13/2719th B.C. to 2/15/2324sa B.C. 144,004 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 2 - 2/16/2324su B.C. to 5/20/1930tu B.C. 144,002 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 3 - 5/21/1930we B.C. to 8/22/1536fr B.C. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 4 - 8/23/1536sa B.C. to 11/25/1142mo B.C. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 5 - 11/26/1142tu B.C. to 2/27/747th B.C. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 6 - 2/28/747fr B.C. to 6/2/353su B.C. 144,004 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 7 - 6/3/353mo B.C. to 9/4/41we A.D. 143637 Days (393.5 yrs)
Baktun 8 - 9/5/41th A.D. to 12/8/435sa A.D. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 9 - 12/9/435su A.D. to 3/12/830tu A.D. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 10 - 3/13/830we A.D. to 6/14/1224fr A.D. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 11 - 6/15/1224sa A.D. to 9/17/1618mo A.D. 143993 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 12 - 9/18/1618tu A.D. to 12/20/2012th A.D. 144,000 Days (394.5 yrs)
---------------------- 1871660 Days -------------------
Baktun 13 - 12/21/2012 A.D. to 12/25/2013 = 370 Days
Baktun 14 - 12/26/2013 A.D. to 5/27/2014 = 153 Days
Baktun 15 - 5/28/2014 A.D. to 10/27/2014 = 153 Days
----------------------- 676 Days ------------------------

Gobekli Tepe, common design patterns are identified with the Mayan Calendar astrological associations, of the cosmological alignment that follows the translation of the universe, and the propagation of "Nibiru", the basis of ascension. The "Divine Uterus" that gives birth to man.

 

[Han]

There is one image on the central stone in the center of the Gobekli Tepe complex. That is of a Lizard, now in many cultures it is customary to say that: "Lizards are walking Snakes".

A lizard is a lizard and snake is a snake, just because a culture or civilization is ancient does not mean they could not identify animals.
I think the walking snake you are referring to originates with cultures that observed "Mamba" snakes (Dendroaspis) especially the Black Mamba (Dendroaspis polylepis) which is known to "walk".
Mambas are also referred to as "Tree Asps". and were of religious significance to many peoples, which is understandable because of the toxicity of their bite.

 

[Han]

"They’re on the Moon watching us!"

The Truth Of The Moon

Solstice Precessional Alignment (Galactic) - 1980, 1998, 2012, 2016
Galactic Alignment - 12/21/2012 - Solar Cycle 24 in 2012
(24 Lunar Months = 708 Days (29.5 x 24))
....................
2012 - 1980 = 32 Years (Sun)
708 Days - 32 Days = 676 Days (Moon)
.....................
12/21/2012 to 10/27/2014 = 676 Days Total

Baktun 0 - 8/11/3113mo B.C. to 11/12/2719we B.C. 144,002 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 1 - 11/13/2719th B.C. to 2/15/2324sa B.C. 144,004 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 2 - 2/16/2324su B.C. to 5/20/1930tu B.C. 144,002 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 3 - 5/21/1930we B.C. to 8/22/1536fr B.C. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 4 - 8/23/1536sa B.C. to 11/25/1142mo B.C. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 5 - 11/26/1142tu B.C. to 2/27/747th B.C. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 6 - 2/28/747fr B.C. to 6/2/353su B.C. 144,004 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 7 - 6/3/353mo B.C. to 9/4/41we A.D. 143637 Days (393.5 yrs)
Baktun 8 - 9/5/41th A.D. to 12/8/435sa A.D. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 9 - 12/9/435su A.D. to 3/12/830tu A.D. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 10 - 3/13/830we A.D. to 6/14/1224fr A.D. 144,003 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 11 - 6/15/1224sa A.D. to 9/17/1618mo A.D. 143993 Days (394.5 yrs)
Baktun 12 - 9/18/1618tu A.D. to 12/20/2012th A.D. 144,000 Days (394.5 yrs)
---------------------- 1871660 Days -------------------
Baktun 13 - 12/21/2012 A.D. to 12/25/2013 = 370 Days
Baktun 14 - 12/26/2013 A.D. to 5/27/2014 = 153 Days
Baktun 15 - 5/28/2014 A.D. to 10/27/2014 = 153 Days
----------------------- 676 Days ------------------------

Gobekli Tepe, common design patterns are identified with the Mayan Calendar astrological associations, of the cosmological alignment that follows the translation of the universe, and the propagation of "Nibiru", the basis of ascension. The "Divine Uterus" that gives birth to man.

I have a very limited understanding of astrology, but I am puzzled as to why designs at "Gobekli Tepe" would correspond with the "mayan" calender when they are from different "hemispheres".

 

[trainedobserver]

I have a very limited understanding of astrology, but I am puzzled as to why designs at "Gobekli Tepe" would correspond with the "mayan" calender when they are from different "hemispheres".

Good point, but I thought that they had puzzled out that these types of structures were all planting and harvesting type calendars long ago. None of these structures have anything about them that suggests advanced technology of any sort. Rocks folks. They built the things with rocks and dirt. Artisans yes, technologists ...no.

 

[sabbaths]

I have a very limited understanding of astrology, but I am puzzled as to why designs at "Gobekli Tepe" would correspond with the "mayan" calender when they are from different "hemispheres".

GOOD BYE
Nostradamus Lost Plate 70

Antichrist = Your King!

Lunar 29.5 Day Cycle x 153 Days (5 Months) = 4513.5 Years

3113 B.C. Mayan Calendar Creation Date
1400 B.C. Exodus
=
The Resurrection of the Antichrist for .5 Months

3 = Mayan Calendar, Gobekli Tepe, Stonehenge = March 20, the 3rd Month Purification of the "Tribe of Dan". Equinoctial = Jewish Calendar, First Month.

 

[Han]

This ranks in the top two worst depictions of stone heng I have ever seen, what period of its use is it supposed to represent? and who drew it? what or who's evidence is it based on?

P.S I thought the end of the world was supposed to happen back in the year 2k or was that a miscalculation? (please ignore this comment if I have misunderstood what you are trying to say)

 

[manxman]

i think its a case of BSC.

 

[Han]

i think its a case of BSC.

Bronze swimming Certificate? no that can't be right.

maybe:

AcronymDefinition
BSCBinary Synchronous Communication
BSCBritish Society of Cinematographers
BSCBiomedical Sciences Corps
BSCBasic
BSCBachelor of Science
BSCBird Studies Canada
BSCBalanced Scorecard
BSCBridgewater State College
BSCBarcelona Sporting Club (Guayaquil, Ecuador)
BSCBirmingham-Southern College
BSCBismarck State College
BSCBase Station Controller
BSCBlue Shield of California
BSCBuilding Systems Councils
BSCBuffalo State College (Buffalo, NY)
BSCBritish Safety Council
BSCBoard of Scientific Counselors
BSCBuilding Standards Commission (California)
BSCBiological Safety Cabinet
BSCBoston Scientific Corporation
BSCBest Supportive Care (cancer treatment)
BSCBalanced Scorecard Collaborative
BSCBone Student Center (Illinois State University)
BSCBreakthrough Series Collaborative
BSCBear Stearns Companies Inc. (stock symbol)
BSCBuilding Science Corporation
BSCBluefield State College
BSCBusiness Service Center (General Services Administration)
BSCBiostatistics Center
BSCBroadcasting Standards Commission (UK)
BScBachelor of Sciences (UK)
BSCBarrington Stage Company
BSCBiosafety Cabinets
BSCBinary Symmetric Channel
BSCBusiness Service Console (Concord)
BSCBiological Species Concept (evolutionary history)
BSCBerliner Sport Club (Germany)
BSCBabysitter's Club
BSCBetter Sleep Council
BSCBoston Sports Club(s)
BSCBritish Society of Criminology
BSCBritish Security Coordination (UK)
BSCBuilding Service Contractor
BSCBasari (SIL code, Senegal)
BSCBright Star Catalog
BSCByzantine Studies Conference
BSCBunker Surcharge
BSCBechtel SAIC Company
BSCBus State Controller
BSCBanco Santa Cruz
BSCBronze Swimming Certificate (UK TV series Red Dwarf)
BSCBinary Symmetric Channels
BSCBoyan Script (File Name Extension)
BSCBureau of Study Counsel (Harvard University)
BSCBanking Services Corporation (Pakistan)
BSCBehavioral Specialist Consultant
BSCBusiness Success Center
BSCBoundary Scan Cell
BSCBusiness Student Council
BSCBase Site Controller (Clearnet)
BSCBattle Simulation Center
BSCBlackwater Security Consulting
BSCBiological Survey of Canada
BSCBusiness Steering Committee (GBDe)
BSCBritish Standard Cycle (screw thread)
BSCBibliographic Standards Committee
BSCBiological Stain Commission (Rochester, NY)
BSCBird Strike Committee
BSCBinary Synchronous Control
BSCBordereau de Suivi des Cargaisons (French: Cargo Tracking Slip)
BScBaccalaureus Scientiae (Latin: Bachelor of Science, Codices and Manuscripts)
BSCBiofeedback Society of California
BSCBird Safari Camp
BSCBethlehem Steel Company
BSCBattleStats.com
BSCBisynchronous Communication
BSCBritish School of Chicago
BSCBusiness Service Club
BSCBlagnac Sporting Club (Blagnac, France)
BSCBaltic Shipping Company (Saint-Petersburg, Russia)
BSCBembridge Sailing Club
BSCBaffle Step Correction
BSCBasic Scattering Code
BSCBoy Scouts of Canada
BSCBoating Safety Circular
BSCBinary Synchronous Coded
BSCBronzez sans Cruauté (French: Tan without Cruelty)
BSCBasic Spacing between Centers (integrated circuit package dimension)
BSCBelgian Stroke Council
BSCBureau des Substances Contrôlées
BSCBering Slope Current
BSCBlack Studies Centre (Canada)
BSCBaltimore Ski Club
BSCBlack Sea Consulting
BSCBuilding Safe Communities
BSCBainbridge Scuba Center
BSCBillet Sequence Code
BSCBrussels Scalex Club
BSCBlack Square Club
BSCblack station clock (US DoD)
BSCBasilan State College
BSCBroglio Space Centre (Kenya)
BSCBoston Sailing Center
BSCBrentwood Secondary College
BSCBlock Sum Check
BSCBrothers and Sisters of Charity
BSCBuilding Suppliers Corporation
BSCBaleine sous Caillou (French film production company)
BSCBallarat Secondary College (Ballarat, Australia)
BSCBenzylselenocyanate
BSCBorder Studies Curriculum
BSCBiomolecular Science Center
BSCBiophysical Society of China
BSCBengal Studies Conference
BSCBiathlon Sport Club
BSCBay State Council of Divers (est. 1969; Quincy, MA)
BSCBalma Sporting Club (Balma, France)
BSCBook Sales Catalogues
BSCBlind Students of California
BSCBeam Steering Controller (phased array radar)
BSCBit Synchronizer
BSCBrazilian Society of Cardiology
BSCBeam Splitter Chamber (LIGO)
BSCBusiness Services Council
BSCBrake Skid Controller (NASA)
BSCBed Side Commode (home health care)
BSCBabakin Space Center (Russia)
BSCBlackpool Service Crew
BSCBrazilian Stock Car
BSCBrunswick Soccer Club
BSCBiological Specialty Corporation
BSCBibliographic Society of Canada
BSCBarrie Sports Complex
BSCBattle Space Characterization
BScBachelor of Scepticism
BSCBackup Security Control
BSCBanbury Sailing Club (UK)
BSCBaby Shower Central (website)
BSCBomb Shape Components
BSCBig Shot Chronicles
BSCBroad Service Category
BSCBaseline Schedule Change
BSCBearer Sub-network Circuit(s)
BSCBritish Standard Channel
BSCBasic Storage Controller (mainframes)
BSCBadminton Sports Club
BSCBaffle Size Correction
BSCBewerber Service Center
BSCBroadcast Sub-Cube
BSCBanda Sociale Di Cavedine
BSCBinary-to-Symbol Converter/Conversion
BSCBrief Stop for Cargo/Lift/Delivery
BSCBrigade Support Center
BSCBullseye Support Center
BSCBureau du Superintendent des Faillites (Office of the Superintendent of Bankruptcy - Canada)
BSCBilling Server Client (Sprint)
BSCBusiness Software and Consulting
BSCBusiness Support Center Co. Ltd.
BSCBlack System Clock
BSCBest Slipcover Company
BSCBusiness Strategy Council
BSCBihar Science Conference
BSCBidarteko Surf Club (France)
BSCBubble Store Controller (AT&T)
BSCBelgian Scrap Club (scrapbooking club; Belgium)
BSCBusiness Systems and Consultants, Inc.
BSCBio Skincare
BSCBoundary Seeded Code
BSCBranscombe Supply Company (Connecticut)
BSCBahraini Stock Company (Bahrain)
BSCBusiness Systems Center
BSCBuilding Sustainable Cities
BSCBusiness Source Complete (resource)
BSCBuilding Science Consulting (various locations)
BSCBanco Santander Chile (Chilean bank)
BSCBuloke Shire Council (Australia)
BSCBalancing and Settlement Code (UK)
BSCBritish Society of Commerce (UK)
BSCBeeSoft Commander (software)
BSCBusiness Solutions Center (various organizations)


Ok now I get it thank you "Urban Dictionary: bsc"

 

[manxman]

BatShit Crazy

 

[mike]

BatShit Crazy

I knew what you meant