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Ed Dames remote views Fossett's crash site
- Thread starter Brian Now
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Ok, I know, I know, I'll get slammed for even talking about an incident that happened on C2C, but a guy called in and told GN he needed to call Dames out for not ever getting anything right. It was hilarious. The guy kept it up, repeatedly saying that he's listened to a bunch of old shows and the guy never gets anything right.
Aaron LeClair
Paranormal Maven
MotorCity said:
What did Ed, or the host have to say to that?
I have a pal who has learned remote viewing from Lyn Buchanan. He's rather gifted with accuracy within the 80% range, but adherence to the protocols is stressed and maintained.
I've often thought that because there are people who are somewhat successful at it, it would behoove governments. or whomever wishes to keep it under wraps, to plant a disiniformation specialist (read *utter fool*) into the limelight as a way of debunking the art. Viola! Major Dames.
Of course he could just be a wanker all on his own.
I've often thought that because there are people who are somewhat successful at it, it would behoove governments. or whomever wishes to keep it under wraps, to plant a disiniformation specialist (read *utter fool*) into the limelight as a way of debunking the art. Viola! Major Dames.
Of course he could just be a wanker all on his own.
Tony2013
Skilled Investigator
ondafritz said:
My sentiments exactly. Is there anyone on this board who knows how to remote view, or who has seriously studied the phenomenon? Seems like what we have is a lot of people with a passing interest or background.
Has anyone here ever thought about looking into it? Honestly, my interest is seriously piqued, and I'm giving a lot of thought to study it and learning how to remote view myself. Seems like the only way to get any true answers to anything is just to figure things out on your own. I'm tired of second-hand information and opinions.
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Tommy Allison
Guest
Remote Viewing is a lie. Period.
Yes, It is a lie. Your friend with the 80 percent accuracy, how is it tested? I would wager that he wouldn't take on James Randi.
Remote Viewing is a joke, a lie, a farce. If you see ANYONE in the paranormal field with credentials in Military Intelligence, know that they are all liars, and are very skilled at lying, because that is their stock and trade.
I can name 3 off the top of my head who have this credential, who are indeed full of shit.
On a good day, I can hit 90 percent on the Psi testing websites that are all computer driven. On a bad day, big fat zero. I would wager your friend has a lot more zero days than he does those 80 percent days.
Aaron C. Donahue is a fake, and a fraud. You want to see a litany of frauds? Watch the new show called America's Psychic Challenge. Every single person on that show is a fake, PERIOD.
The people who are truly psychic don't have any kind of ability that can be trained, nor is it consistent. Everyone has that flash of intuition, or inspiration from time to time, and that is it.
I could write a book on how to imagine crap, sell it to you in a program, and then slap a big fat price of $1500.00 and it would work just as well as the crap you could buy from the frauds at psitech, or any one of those other so called remote viewing schools.
Watch the Penn and Teller episode of Bullshit where they do remote viewing. It's hilarious.
Yes, It is a lie. Your friend with the 80 percent accuracy, how is it tested? I would wager that he wouldn't take on James Randi.
Remote Viewing is a joke, a lie, a farce. If you see ANYONE in the paranormal field with credentials in Military Intelligence, know that they are all liars, and are very skilled at lying, because that is their stock and trade.
I can name 3 off the top of my head who have this credential, who are indeed full of shit.
On a good day, I can hit 90 percent on the Psi testing websites that are all computer driven. On a bad day, big fat zero. I would wager your friend has a lot more zero days than he does those 80 percent days.
Aaron C. Donahue is a fake, and a fraud. You want to see a litany of frauds? Watch the new show called America's Psychic Challenge. Every single person on that show is a fake, PERIOD.
The people who are truly psychic don't have any kind of ability that can be trained, nor is it consistent. Everyone has that flash of intuition, or inspiration from time to time, and that is it.
I could write a book on how to imagine crap, sell it to you in a program, and then slap a big fat price of $1500.00 and it would work just as well as the crap you could buy from the frauds at psitech, or any one of those other so called remote viewing schools.
Watch the Penn and Teller episode of Bullshit where they do remote viewing. It's hilarious.
Tony2013
Skilled Investigator
Obviously something called "America's Psychic Challenge" is going to be fake. Christ, just look at the name.
And I have never heard of any of the people you list. Probably for a reason.
So I suppose you've investigated every instance of remote viewing, looked into the history, interviewed everyone involved, and come to this conclusion based on irrefutable evidence?
And I have never heard of any of the people you list. Probably for a reason.
So I suppose you've investigated every instance of remote viewing, looked into the history, interviewed everyone involved, and come to this conclusion based on irrefutable evidence?
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Tommy Allison
Guest
I've been involved in it. That's how I know it's crap.
Tommy Allison said:
You raise many potential questions, my friend.
Care to elaborate?
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Tommy Allison
Guest
Sure.
I was one of the many duped masses who bought Dhames little psychic program. Spent some cash on it, joined a group back in my home town, and after about 5 months came to the conclusion that I'd been duped, and had surrounded myself with idiots.
I can tell you all definitively, you'd be better off buying the book called "The Idiots Guide To Being Psychic." It's a REAL book, and oddly enough is probably better written and more informed.
Remote Viewing is not a science, nor is it full of discplines or absolutes. It's bunk. It's imaginary thinking, and cherry picking the things you get right.
I have had many instances of deja vu, fortuitous chance, and even some glimmers of intuition, and NONE OF IT, and I mean NONE OF IT, is psychic ability. I know there are people who believe in it, but I'm no longer one of them.
I could do as well, if not better than the remote viewers who claimed to be trained by ANY of the aforementioned teachers and frauds. In fact, I'm willing to be tested by ANYONE, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, and defy them to prove me wrong.
Do you know why? Because it's fakery, and when you're an artist and writer who deals in the imaginary, you have a leg up on those who don't.
I was one of the many duped masses who bought Dhames little psychic program. Spent some cash on it, joined a group back in my home town, and after about 5 months came to the conclusion that I'd been duped, and had surrounded myself with idiots.
I can tell you all definitively, you'd be better off buying the book called "The Idiots Guide To Being Psychic." It's a REAL book, and oddly enough is probably better written and more informed.
Remote Viewing is not a science, nor is it full of discplines or absolutes. It's bunk. It's imaginary thinking, and cherry picking the things you get right.
I have had many instances of deja vu, fortuitous chance, and even some glimmers of intuition, and NONE OF IT, and I mean NONE OF IT, is psychic ability. I know there are people who believe in it, but I'm no longer one of them.
I could do as well, if not better than the remote viewers who claimed to be trained by ANY of the aforementioned teachers and frauds. In fact, I'm willing to be tested by ANYONE, ANYTIME, ANYWHERE, and defy them to prove me wrong.
Do you know why? Because it's fakery, and when you're an artist and writer who deals in the imaginary, you have a leg up on those who don't.
Okay, Tommy. You bought into Dames. That was your first mistake. LOL
By your own admission, anyone can tap into some sort of intuition some of the time. Stands to reason that some people can tap into it more of the time and probably some a lot of the time.
You've left a trail of debunking all over this board. Ho hum. Guess boards where everyone agrees with you aren't as much fun.
By your own admission, anyone can tap into some sort of intuition some of the time. Stands to reason that some people can tap into it more of the time and probably some a lot of the time.
You've left a trail of debunking all over this board. Ho hum. Guess boards where everyone agrees with you aren't as much fun.
Tony2013
Skilled Investigator
Poi said:
Exactly.
You say you spent five months learning to remote view and at the end found out you'd been had. Perhaps your teacher wasn't the real thing? Granted, that probably would have been my reaction as well, just to dismiss it all as bunk, but I sense a real hostility here. You aren't even open to the idea that some people may genuinely have this ability, particularily those with a history of clairvoyant abilities. You also say sometimes you exhibit signs of clairvoyance... ever thought about really developing them? Like many people, you're probably capable of more than you think.
That's a very good idea. Wish I could say I'd had clairvoyant experiences. It may be that your bad experience with Dames has stopped your natural talent from blooming, Tommy.
Remote Viewing classes from the best of SRI are terribly expensive. Stephen Schwartz has DVDs that are much less expensive and can be done at home at one's pace. Might be worth a try.
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Tommy Allison
Guest
I exhibit no signs of ANY kind of clairvoyance that is any different than anyone else.
Let me make this abundantly clear.
NOBODY is any more or less psychic than anyone else. Whomever claims to be, and has believers is just a better liar than most.
Nobody has stopped me from being any more or less psychic than anyone else, and I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that there are no psychics on this board, or in real life who are any more psychic than I am. I'm willing to take the pepsi challenge to that effect.
David Biedny, and Gene Steinberg can have me tested against the so called best psychics in the field, and I promise I will do as good, or if not better than they can, and not by virtue of any ability. In fact, I bet I could out perform the above mentioned practitioner on any given day of the week.
Not because I'm psychic mind you, I have never claimed to be. Just as one of you twisted my words around, Everyone has those moments where they have what they call a psychic moment. It has nothing to do with being psychic at all. Luck is what it's called.
You guys should watch Darren Brown on that Mind Control show. He does a great job at debunking this sort of thing. I wish he'd do a remote viewing deal to prove just how fake it is.
Let me make this abundantly clear.
NOBODY is any more or less psychic than anyone else. Whomever claims to be, and has believers is just a better liar than most.
Nobody has stopped me from being any more or less psychic than anyone else, and I am willing to bet dollars to donuts that there are no psychics on this board, or in real life who are any more psychic than I am. I'm willing to take the pepsi challenge to that effect.
David Biedny, and Gene Steinberg can have me tested against the so called best psychics in the field, and I promise I will do as good, or if not better than they can, and not by virtue of any ability. In fact, I bet I could out perform the above mentioned practitioner on any given day of the week.
Not because I'm psychic mind you, I have never claimed to be. Just as one of you twisted my words around, Everyone has those moments where they have what they call a psychic moment. It has nothing to do with being psychic at all. Luck is what it's called.
You guys should watch Darren Brown on that Mind Control show. He does a great job at debunking this sort of thing. I wish he'd do a remote viewing deal to prove just how fake it is.
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Tommy Allison
Guest
Poi said:
"I have had many instances of deja vu, fortuitous chance, and even some glimmers of intuition, and NONE OF IT, and I mean NONE OF IT, is psychic ability."
These are my exact words from my post. You are a liar. In no way did I say that I have ANY psychic ability. Do NOT twist my words around and make up things I didn't say.
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Tommy Allison
Guest
Tony2013 said:
I'm hostile to people who lie about what they can and can't do to make money from people who are too ignorant to know what the truth is. Remote Viewing was a joke, and still is a joke. If people could actually remote view, you'd have already found Osama Bin Laden. You could find anything, if the remote viewing thing were actually real. It's not.
People think that remote viewers can find things with their minds. They couldn't find their own buttholes with a funnel. Why? Because it's all LIES. It's like every self-help book you could ever buy, or like every fad diet book you own. It's nothing more than lies packaged up for you to consume.
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Tommy Allison
Guest
ondafritz said:
Because Channeling isn't technical enough sounding for the government to spend money on it. They did fund it, and realized it was a joke. The Russians did it too, and they did it only to see what America would spend money on.
Channeling is what that fraud James Van Praagh does, so does John Edwards, and Sylvia "The Felon" Browne.
I could write a book about how I see the dead, and have more people throwing money at me than I could shake a stick at, because people WANT to believe that these things exist.