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Couldn't agree with you more... This field needs more people that are involved to simply say, I just don't know....One thing that can be said about Don: He has no qualms about saying "I don't know." This is probably a good thing.
Referencing Roswell...
One thing that just boggles the mind at this point after Mirage Men and Richard Doty 'on camera' is that Doty and other Air Force OSI agents had already launched a Roswell disinformation campaign injected into Moore and others. Doty said this started in the late 1970's . . . .
I don't understand how anyone can just ignore that solid information 'on camera' DIRECT from A MAJOR PLAYER in the start-up of Roswell Disinformation in the late 1970's.
Neither of the two main makers of that book and film have anything to do with the dirty work of disinformation. Just because the book author Pilkington "exposed" many crop circles to be Human made you have gotten perhaps "paranoid" he is somehow a disinformation agent. Both these people are "creative freaks" interested in mythology! They want to know why people believe in certain things.I don't understand how you can take Doty's word seriously. He's a known disinformation agent, as you yourself recognize. Disinformation agents are liars. What makes you believe that Doty is telling the truth now?
Btw, Mirage Men was written, and then produced as a film, by disinformation agents in the UK, with assistance from the CIA.
Neither of the two main makers of that book and film have anything to do with the dirty work of disinformation.
Just because the book author Pilkington "exposed" many crop circles to be Human made you have gotten perhaps "paranoid" he is somehow a disinformation agent. Both these people are "creative freaks" interested in mythology! They want to know why people believe in certain things.
Both those people have no military or secret agent or black ops backgrounds or close associations with such agencies. They're too young, not long out of their studies at university, and too weird to do that!
Regarding Doty: He did this back in 1979 (possibly before that too), so this is not something new!!! This was the agenda for Roswell back then. Friedman & Moore got sucked into the plan as "useful assets", and I wonder who else was tapped to do this too? Bennewitz and LMH were duped too.
If Doty is lying about Roswell, as you say, then A.F. OSI got everyone on-board in the '70's-80's with the lie that ET crashed at Roswell, dead ETs, one live ET, etc.
Soooo, that means the Air Force was using this ET crash as a cover for something else they're hiding!!!
They don't lie with the absolute truth they're trying to hide!!!
Understand, please, the incredible stupidity of doing that!
No! That is NOT how disinformation is done or will work...
They don't [faux] "lie" by using the absolute truth they're trying to hide!!! Understand, please, the incredible stupidity of doing that!
No! That is NOT how disinformation is done or will work...
How was it stupid if the result of it and the disinformational sequence to it have left the Roswell subject in total ambiguity in the minds of most people? Listening to these people is like trying to have a rational discussion at the Mad Hatter's Tea Party.
Constance, you would believe in ET-UFO Roswell no matter which way the disinformation would be presented to you!It is called "cognitive dissonance" - you can deceive someone into believing anything that they are already predisposed to believe.
Constance, you would believe in ET-UFO Roswell no matter which way the disinformation would be presented to you!
Constance, please rejoin the other thread, and listen to the Vallee interview that you said you would comment on too.Those are questions you would have asked yourself if you critically approached the theory you've swallowed on the basis of a few questionable sources.
Sure are a lot of folks involved in this disinformation campaign....dang....how'd they all keep a straight face???Referencing Roswell...
One thing that just boggles the mind at this point after Mirage Men and Richard Doty 'on camera' is that Doty and other Air Force OSI agents had already launched a Roswell disinformation campaign injected into Moore and others. Doty said this started in the late 1970's, so Air Force OSI was promoting the ET Roswell crash with dead ET's and a surviving ET that was "interviewed" -meaning alive!
I don't understand how anyone can just ignore that solid information 'on camera' DIRECT from A MAJOR PLAYER in the start-up of Roswell Disinformation in the late 1970's. Bizzare! How do we know that Moore and everyone else involved were not just hoodwinked by Air Force OSI propaganda? Greg Bishop has written a book about this too.
Doty's real life involvement and official OSI interference during that time was known to Moore, Bennewitz, Valdez, LMH, and many others too! WTF guys???
Constance, please rejoin the other thread, and listen to the Vallee interview that you said you would comment on too.
I do not consider Richard Doty, Robert Collins, Bill Moore, Chris Lambright, Greg and Gabe Valdez, Bennewitz, Greg Bishop, Redfern, and Pilkington to be "questionable sources" WHEN taken ALL into consideration in the FULL CONTEXT of that period. Stanton Friedman was in THE SHADOWS of Moore. S.F. somehow escaped being tagged with the disinformation campaign by A.F.O.S.I., but he was definitely duped by it anyway! Of course, UFO ET believers need someone to believe in. Stanton is the man. But he is drenched in the PSYOPS just as Bill Moore was too! [S.F. was more indirect.] Soooo, WHY does S.F. get a FREE RIDE but Moore doesn't???
According to another UFO Roswell researcher S.F. told him that Moore had asked him [S.F.] about using disinformation papers "together" to flush-out more witnesses to Roswell. S.F. denies this ever happened, but this UFO researcher says other people know of this too regarding S.F. This was said on a recent Paracast show, so I'm not BS'ing here. [Kevin Randle]
Please do return to the other thread and comment on Vallee's interview. I gave you the time marks too! Thanks. It's post #122 Link below:
New Jacques Vallee Interview: | Page 7 | The Paracast Community Forums
I'm amazed you can't understand the 3rd paragraph you quoted of mine. I told you the allegations were made by a respected UFO Roswell researcher! Look at the name at the bottom of that paragraph: Kevin Randle. Then, all you have to do is listen to his most recent Paracast to find out what I'm saying is true. Like I said, I'm not BS'ing. I don't make-up "disinformation" or propagate intentional lies. [It's remotely possible it might have been from another interview with Randle, but I think my memory is ok with this one.]You must be an idiot, stalker. There's nothing there but empty claims and hearsay, juvenile malice, and a total misunderstanding of what constitutes disinformation -- i.e., the intentional spreading of disinformation. Your third paragraph implicates no one but Moore and several gossips whose identity you protect (and what are they testifying to? That they've 'heard' that Moore approached SF with a dishonest scheme to 'flush out' more Roswell witnesses, which SF obviously declined.) Evidently SF also won't play the gossip game you're trying to build some lame case on. And he'd probably laugh off the games you're playing, but I find them irritating and nonsensical. Haven't you got any real work to do?
Just because you have a different point of view and you're convinced you're right, you should still be willing to share ideas and not just "attack" or "ignore". I have not done that to you.If it isn't, I'll put you on 'ignore' when I figure out how to do that.
Heidi, thanks for the NICAP list shown below. Considering most of those witnesses have nothing to do with directly seeing ET's or the alleged ET crash, then, yeah, it is easy to agree they could speak with a straight face. Big deal. That has 'nothing' to do with what may have really happened.Sure are a lot of folks involved in this disinformation campaign....dang....how'd they all keep a straight face???