are vaccines safe?

[mike]

Details of the fraud here.

Refuting tropes that Andrew Wakefield was wronged

The paper as it was did not warn readers that the children investigated were from a group of parents that went in believing in a connection between MMR and their children’s neurological (and potential gastrointestinal) problems and had a direct interest, as plaintiffs, in proving a connection, a non-random group who was also in touch with, and informed by, similar guiding actors–and it used parental observations as at least part of is sources.



Conclusion


Does Walker-Smith’s decision exonerate Andrew Wakefield? The decision, if read generously, can cast doubt on one set of findings against Wakefield–that he subjected some of the children to invasive tests that were not clinically indicated. It leaves untouched, however, the rest of the charges found proved against Wakefield, and in fact, reinforces several of the allegations–for example,that Wakefield conducted research without ethics committee approval, that Wakefield included misrepresentations in the paper, and that Wakefield did not disclose conflicts of interests. It’s anything but an exoneration, and the charges against Wakefield, as the GMC concluded, amount to serious ethical violations.

 

[pixelsmith]

I did check you can see the results above, ive even bolded the word Fraud every time it shows up, and it shows up often.
Nahh Ahh isn't a counter argument, its just silly noise.

No you didn't check anything. Did you or did you not read his "fraudulent" paper. Have you listened to his own words explaining what he found?
If not then you are a fool.

 

[pixelsmith]

Although the evidence is already abundant that no relationship exists in the general population between measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine receipt and autism spectrum disorder (ASD) risk,6 immunization rates remain low in certain populations and countries because of this inappropriate belief. Descriptions of autism contain histories of children who seemingly were suddenly affected by a catastrophic developmental event between 1 and 2 years of age—a time in proximity to a scheduled MMR immunization. It made sense knowing this temporal window to ask, “Could it be that, if all of the requisite genetic and other risks are present, MMR can lead to the development of autism?” If so, the population in which there might be such a signal would be families already affected by autism.

In this issue of JAMA, Jain and colleagues7 evaluated 2 questions in their large insurance claims database: does the incidence of ASD differ in younger siblings of affected children who are immunized with MMR vs those who are not? And, for the population as a whole, does the incidence of ASD vary as a function of MMR immunization status? The answer to both questions is no.

In the report by Jain et al,7 of 95 727 children with older siblings who were included in the study, 1929 had an older sibling with ASD and 994 children had ASD diagnosed. The relative risk of ASD at age 2 years was 0.76 (95% CI, 0.49-1.18) for children with older siblings with ASD and 0.91 (95% CI, 0.67-1.20) for children with older siblings without ASD.

Some parents of children with ASD may have chosen to delay immunization in subsequent children until they were certain any risk had passed. Such behavior, which arguably could enrich the immunization rate in the nonautism subgroup relative to the group that may have been showing early atypical development, might create the impression that MMR vaccine is actually reducing risk for ASD. Indeed, Jain et al7 report relative risks of less than 1.0. Even so, short of arguing that MMR vaccine actually reduces the risk of ASD in those who were immunized by age 2 years, the only conclusion that can be drawn from the study is that there is no signal to suggest a relationship between MMR and the development of autism in children with or without a sibling who has autism.

Promising Forecast for Autism Spectrum Disorders

Dude, the CDC found a MMR/ autism link. They covered it up. What is wrong with you?

 

[mike]

No you didn't check anything. Did you or did you not read his "fraudulent" paper. Have you listened to his own words explaining what he found?
If not then you are a fool.

I did read his paper, you are wrong yet again.

I did listen to "his own words" saw them come out of his own mouth in his Today show interview he said.

"There are millions of children out there suffering, and the fact [is] that the vaccines cause autism.”

Wakefield said that to Matt Lauer, i saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears. He also said,

“Nonetheless the evidence is undeniably in favour of a specific vaccine induced pathology.” in the document detailed below.

(Wakefield A. Introduction to the rationale, aims and potential therapeutic implications of the investigation of children with Disintegrative disorder (regressive autism; Heller’s disease and intestinal symptomatology.” (Document issued by Wakefield and mailed to doctors and parents who approached the Royal Free , dated 3 February 1997.))

And he is wrong, simple as that.

Im backing those facts with links that can be fact checked. all you have is Na ahh he didnt.

Its like trying to argue with a 3 year old that Santa isnt real.

Santa isnt real, and Wakefield is a proven fraud. End of story

 

[pixelsmith]

I did read his paper, you are wrong yet again.

I did listen to "his own words" saw them come out of his own mouth in his Today show interview he said.

"There are millions of children out there suffering, and the fact [is] that the vaccines cause autism.”

Wakefield said that to Matt Lauer, i saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears. He also said,

“Nonetheless the evidence is undeniably in favour of a specific vaccine induced pathology.” in the document detailed below.

(Wakefield A. Introduction to the rationale, aims and potential therapeutic implications of the investigation of children with Disintegrative disorder (regressive autism; Heller’s disease and intestinal symptomatology.” (Document issued by Wakefield and mailed to doctors and parents who approached the Royal Free , dated 3 February 1997.))

And he is wrong, simple as that.

Im backing those facts with links that can be fact checked. all you have is Na ahh he didnt.

Its like trying to argue with a 3 year old that Santa isnt real.

Santa isnt real, and Wakefield is a proven fraud. End of story

Yes he does think there is an MMR autism connection but that isn't what his paper stated.

Now why don't you believe the CDC that there is a casual connection?

 

[mike]

Worse, this fear was based on the worst science imaginable. First, no scientist not associated with Andrew Wakefield has ever been able to replicate his work. Second, as was exposed by U.K. reporter Brian Deer, not only was Wakefield paid big bucks by trial lawyers seeking to sue vaccine manufacturers for “vaccine injury” to do his studies on autistic children, a conflict of interest he never revealed and that had to be exposed through Deer’s investigations, but months before he published his Lancet paper Wakefield had applied for a patent on a an allegedly safer single measles vaccine that could succeed best if the safety of the MMR were called into doubt. Even after all of this came to light, leading to Wakefield’s correctly being dragged in front of the General Medical Council for charges of scientific misconduct.

Wakefield promoted his results to the media as though he had definitely found a link between the MMR vaccine and a syndrome consisting of regressive autism and inflammatory bowel disease.

If the latest information is true, however, Wakefield is guilty of more than shoddy science and unreported conflicts of interest. He is guilty of scientific fraud and falsifying the medical reports of these children.

In other words, one of two things happened, neither of which is flattering to Wakefield. Either he took the history from parents, for whom confirmation bias could easily have led to remembering incorrectly that their child’s behavioral changes were noted shortly after the MMR rather than before it or months later, in which case Wakefield was incompetent for not having examined the medical records. Alternatively, Wakefield did examine the medical records and lied about them in the Lancet paper. Take your pick.

Quite frankly, such conduct beggars the imagination. It’s about as unethical as it gets. But it’s all of a piece with Andrew Wakefield’s behavior. After all, as I pointed out before, he was in the pocket of a lawyer named Richard Barr seeking to sue vaccine manufacturers for “vaccine-induced” autism before he undertook his research. Not only that, but Barr was affiliated with the antivaccine group Jabs, and Wakefield apparently concocted his new “syndrome” after at least some consultation with Barr. But perhaps the most unethical, at least from a human research standpoint, was that the patients recruited to his study were not anything resembling a random or neutral sample. As pointed out by Brian Deer, the parents of these children heard through word of mouth about Wakefield. Add to that the fact that Wakefield subjected these children to unnecessary invasive medical procedures, and then incompetently analyzed the specimens obtained from them for measles virus to produce a virtually preordained result, even if it took scientific fraud to do it, and you see what I mean. Given such a level of ideological blindness that seems to think his cause so just that good science and ethics are optional in pursuit of it, a lack of concern over blatant conflicts of interest, and an appallingly inflated opinion of himself that he is seems to believe that he is actually a persecuted Galileo, is it any surprise that Wakefield may have stooped so far as to falsify research results in his campaign?

Antivaccine hero Andrew Wakefield: Scientific fraud?fraud/

 

[pixelsmith]

When I was a kid the autism rate was 1 in 15,000. Today depending on what part of the USA you are from it is between 1 and 25 and 1 in 60.
Autism is simply a vaccine injury. Period.
It's idiots like you that are harming children.


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[mike]

A number of large population studies have found no evidence to support a causal association between MMR and autism. A study of more than 500,000 Danish children[17] found no increased risk of ASDs among those who had received the MMR compared with those who had not been vaccinated, and even though autism rates increased during the study period, this increase occurred well after the introduction of the MMR vaccine.

Similarly, Fombonne and colleagues[18] study in 2006 of more than 27,000 Canadian children noted that rates of Pervasive Developmental Disorders (PDDs) increased over time, while take-up of the MMR vaccination decreased which ruled out a causal association between ASD and the MMR. Another study[19] also found that even when the MMR was discontinued in a region of Japan, autism rates continued to rise, suggesting that the MMR vaccine was unlikely to be the main cause of autism. Similarly, a more recent study of Japanese children[20] did not find convincing evidence that MMR vaccination was associated with an increased risk of ASD

The Real Reasons Autism Rates Are Up in the U.S.

What causes autism?

Autism tends to run in families, so experts think it may be something that you inherit. Scientists are trying to find out exactly which genes may be responsible for passing down autism in families.

Other studies are looking at whether autism can be caused by other medical problems or by something in your child's surroundings.

False claims in the news have made some parents concerned about a link between autism and vaccines. But studies have found no link between vaccines and autism.

 

[mike]

Autism is simply a vaccine injury. Period.

The evidence doesn't match that conclusion

One unique study from Finland addressed this issue 74. Researchers analysed common symptoms in 581 pairs of twins after one twin received the MMR vaccine and the other was given a dummy vaccine (a placebo). Between one and six days after the injection, the number of adverse events in the twin who received the MMR vaccine was almost identical to those in the twin who received placebo 74 (see Figure 4.1). Between seven and 12 days after the injection, the vaccinated group had a measurable increase in symptoms that are known to be associated with administration of the attenuated measles vaccine, such as fever, irritability and rash. On the other hand, no difference between the two groups could be detected over that period in the frequency of coughand cold-like symptoms—which occur commonly with or without vaccination. Moreover, even some of the symptoms known to occur after MMR vaccine were also seen in the group who received placebo, but at a lower rate.

In summary, this valuable study showed that many common symptoms that occur after a vaccine is given are not caused by the vaccine, but occur by chance at that time

Another study[19] also found that even when the MMR was discontinued in a region of Japan, autism rates continued to rise,

A study of more than 500,000 Danish children[17] found no increased risk of ASDs among those who had received the MMR compared with those who had not been vaccinated, and even though autism rates increased during the study period

More than 27,000 Canadian children noted that rates of Pervasive Developmental Disorders (PDDs) increased over time, while take-up of the MMR vaccination decreased which ruled out a causal association between ASD and the MMR

To put this in another way.

Lets say you have a large flock of chickens.
Some start getting sick, you think it might be the feed.
So you split the flock and you feed half of them with the feed you are using, and the other half with feed from down the road where no chickens have fallen ill.
But chickens in both flocks still get sick and die.

The logical conclusion would be it must be something else and not the feed that's the cause.
That's exactly what the larger study's found. Autism rates were the same in kids who were and who WERE NOT vaccinated.

You say Wakefields paper did not report/find any link. That was 12 children and he wanted to find a link. Yet his paper doesn't report one.
Subsequent study's of thousands of kids find no link.

The logic and science is solid, your grip on reality...... Not so much.

 

[pixelsmith]

Worse, this fear was based on the worst science imaginable. First, no scientist not associated with Andrew Wakefield has ever been able to replicate his work. Second, as was exposed by U.K. reporter Brian Deer, not only was Wakefield paid big bucks by trial lawyers seeking to sue vaccine manufacturers for “vaccine injury” to do his studies on autistic children, a conflict of interest he never revealed and that had to be exposed through Deer’s investigations, but months before he published his Lancet paper Wakefield had applied for a patent on a an allegedly safer single measles vaccine that could succeed best if the safety of the MMR were called into doubt. Even after all of this came to light, leading to Wakefield’s correctly being dragged in front of the General Medical Council for charges of scientific misconduct.

Wakefield promoted his results to the media as though he had definitely found a link between the MMR vaccine and a syndrome consisting of regressive autism and inflammatory bowel disease.

If the latest information is true, however, Wakefield is guilty of more than shoddy science and unreported conflicts of interest. He is guilty of scientific fraud and falsifying the medical reports of these children.

In other words, one of two things happened, neither of which is flattering to Wakefield. Either he took the history from parents, for whom confirmation bias could easily have led to remembering incorrectly that their child’s behavioral changes were noted shortly after the MMR rather than before it or months later, in which case Wakefield was incompetent for not having examined the medical records. Alternatively, Wakefield did examine the medical records and lied about them in the Lancet paper. Take your pick.

Quite frankly, such conduct beggars the imagination. It’s about as unethical as it gets. But it’s all of a piece with Andrew Wakefield’s behavior. After all, as I pointed out before, he was in the pocket of a lawyer named Richard Barr seeking to sue vaccine manufacturers for “vaccine-induced” autism before he undertook his research. Not only that, but Barr was affiliated with the antivaccine group Jabs, and Wakefield apparently concocted his new “syndrome” after at least some consultation with Barr. But perhaps the most unethical, at least from a human research standpoint, was that the patients recruited to his study were not anything resembling a random or neutral sample. As pointed out by Brian Deer, the parents of these children heard through word of mouth about Wakefield. Add to that the fact that Wakefield subjected these children to unnecessary invasive medical procedures, and then incompetently analyzed the specimens obtained from them for measles virus to produce a virtually preordained result, even if it took scientific fraud to do it, and you see what I mean. Given such a level of ideological blindness that seems to think his cause so just that good science and ethics are optional in pursuit of it, a lack of concern over blatant conflicts of interest, and an appallingly inflated opinion of himself that he is seems to believe that he is actually a persecuted Galileo, is it any surprise that Wakefield may have stooped so far as to falsify research results in his campaign?

Antivaccine hero Andrew Wakefield: Scientific fraud?fraud/

Here is a partial list of peer reviewed studies duplicating Wakefields paper
https://olis.leg.state.or.us/liz/2015R1/Downloads/CommitteeMeetingDocument/46589


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[pixelsmith]

New Published Study Verifies Andrew Wakefield’s Research on Autism – Again

Two landmark events – a government concession in the US Vaccine Court, and a groundbreaking scientific paper – confirm that physician, scientist, and Autism Media Channel [AMC] Director, Dr. Andrew Wakefield, and the parents were right all along.

In a recently published December 13, 2012 vaccine court ruling, hundreds of thousands of dollars were awarded to Ryan Mojabi, whose parents described how “MMR vaccinations,” caused a “severe and debilitating injury to his brain, diagnosed as Autism Spectrum Disorder (‘ASD’).”

Later the same month, the government suffered a second major defeat when young Emily Moller from Houston won compensation following vaccine-related brain injury that, once again, involved MMR and resulted in autism. The cases follow similar successful petitions in the Italian and US courts (including Hannah Poling [ii], Bailey Banks [iii], Misty Hyatt [iv], Kienan Freeman [v], Valentino Bocca [vi], and Julia Grimes [vii]) in which the governments conceded or the court ruled that vaccines had caused brain injury. In turn, this injury led to an ASD diagnosis. MMR vaccine was the common denominator in these cases.

And today, scientists and physicians from Wake Forest University, New York, and Venezuela, reported findings that not only confirm the presence of intestinal disease in children with autism and intestinal symptoms, but also indicate that this disease may be novel. [viii] Using sophisticated laboratory methods Dr. Steve Walker and his colleagues endorsed Wakefield’s original findings by showing molecular changes in the children’s intestinal tissues that were highly distinctive and clearly abnormal.

From 1998 Dr. Wakefield discovered and reported intestinal disease in children with autism. [ix] Based upon the medical histories of the children he linked their disease and their autistic regression to the Measles, Mumps, Rubella (MMR vaccine). He has since been subjected to relentless personal and professional attacks in the media, and from governments, doctors and the pharmaceutical industry. In the wake of demonstrably false and highly damaging allegations of scientific fraud by British journalist Brian Deer and the British Medical Journal, Dr. Wakefield is pursuing defamation proceedings against them in Texas. [x]

While repeated studies from around the world confirmed Wakefield’s bowel disease in autistic children [xi] and his position that safety studies of the MMR are inadequate, [xii] Dr. Wakefield ’s career has been destroyed by false allegations. Despite this he continues to work tirelessly to help solve the autism catastrophe.

The incidence of autism has rocketed to a risk of around 1 in 25 for children born today. Mean while governments, absent any explanation and fearing loss of public trust, continue to deny the vaccine autism connection despite the concessions in vaccine court.

Speaking from his home in Austin, Texas, Dr. Wakefield said,

There can be very little doubt that vaccines can and do cause autism. In these children, the evidence for a n adverse reaction involving brain injury following the MMR that progresses to an autism diagnosis is compelling. It’s now a question of the body count. The parents’ story was right all along. Governments must stop playing with words while children continue to be damaged . My hope is that recognition of the intestinal disease in these children will lead to the relief of their suffering. This is long , long overdue .”
Dr. Andrew Wakefield is a best selling author, [xi] founder of the autism research non profit Strategic Autism Initiative (SAI)


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[pixelsmith]

The Lancet Acknowledges Dr. Andrew Wakefield Is Cleared

Lancet ombudsman Dr. Molyneux acknowledged that the UK General Medical Council’s findings of misconduct against Dr. Wakefield had been overturned.


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[pixelsmith]

We should discuss the mumps outbreak at Harvard that affected those who were vaccinated against mumps, probably multiple times.
Mike this hold true for measles as well.
The MMR vaccine is dangerous junk that has destroyed TRUE herd immunity.
You and millions of others have fallen for what will become the largest most detrimental and DNA altering scam in history.



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[pixelsmith]

Like to do math? Want to hear about the HPV safety study.
Want to hear about using poison as a placebo in a control group?
Think you know about HPV?
Here is all you need to know.

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[marduk]

Like to do math? Want to hear about the HPV safety study.
Want to hear about using poison as a placebo in a control group?
Think you know about HPV?
Here is all you need to know.

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Tell me how to calculate significance with respect to both correlation and causation.

 

[pixelsmith]

Tell me how to calculate significance with respect to both correlation and causation.

Use your brain. They are so desperate to sell vaccines they used aluminum as a placebo. If you think that is science then you are retarded.

 

[marduk]

Use your brain. They are so desperate to sell vaccines they used aluminum as a placebo. If you think that is science then you are retarded.

As expected.

 

[pixelsmith]

As expected.

Omg!
So do you trust the scientists doing the work at CDC or their bosses?

 

[marduk]

Omg!
So do you trust the scientists doing the work at CDC or their bosses?

I understand math, the scientific method, and the peer review process.

I do not understand what the benefit of making decisions based on emotion or simply wanting it to be true.

 

[pixelsmith]

After commuting perjury Dr. Julie Gerberding, former director of the CDC, was named president of Merck & Co Inc's vaccine division.
How nice, lie about the MMR and we give you a real good job.... or....you might be found floating in a river.


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