I am working a case in which the witness reports many strange sightings, but he states that the first of these was a black triangle near Moose Lake, MN in 2002. Search of the MUFON database came up blank. Any leads?
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It's possible, even likely, that 'they' are not fully organic species but cyborgs or even robots. The farther such entities have developed themselves from their original biological designers and producers, the less likely it is that they would retain a subconscious mind or even know what human subconsciousness contains and that our subconscious memories are accessible.Finally the occupant told Schirmer that he was not to remember
the inside of the ship. He concluded :
YOU WILL NOT SPEAK WISELY ABOUT THIS
NIGHT. WE WILL RETURN TO SEE YOU TWO
And at one point, in a hauntingly beautiful moment, one
of the men took Schirmer to the large window of the ship,
pointed to the deserted landscape around them and said
gravely : 'Watchman, some day you will see the Universe !'
If the 'occupants' are so advanced, and do not want Schirmer
to speak wisely of that night, why could he remember
so much of it under hypnosis ? Have they not anticipated
this method of disclosure ? Or could it be that some parts
of the human mind are inaccessible to them ? Could it be
that their power is more limited than their actions seem to
imply ? Could it be that someone, or something, is playing
a fantastic trick on us ?
I actually wanted to read this work of Vallee's to get a better idea of what some posters here mean by linking ufos and the paranormal to the extent they do. Previously (and still to a great extent) I've thought that the connection of the ufos and the paranormal was primarily derived from the frequently reported experiences of people encountering ufo occupants from whom they have telepathically received information in the form of meaningful statements. This was even true of the children in the Zimbabwe case. I'd figured that the sudden disappearances of ufos could be explained by advanced technology rather than 'the paranormal'. My general feeling is that all things referred to these days as representations of 'the paranormal' do not necessarily have a common origin, and that ufos are different enough from the variety of psi experiences and aptitudes studied by psychical researchers since the late 19th century that we should not conflate ufos with 'the paranormal', which is over-used as an umbrella term and should be replaced with more closely defined and examined types of experiences we might generally refer to as 'uncanny'.i did constance, and had a good read of it for an hour or so, it gave me an understanding of why you and others here think UFO'S and the paranormal are linked manifestations, . . .
I too have finally changed my mind about Geller's significance after reading this book by Vallee. Tart and Puthoff have also written in various places that they witnessed remarkable demonstrations of PK by Geller. His psychic abilities also appear to be profound. As for his having faked it at times, we know that even some of the astonishingly powerful mediums studied by the SPR and other researchers in the late 19th c.- early 20th c. period resorted to fakery at times. In general, psychic researchers have long recognized that the 'signal' is not always clear and sometimes not there at all for skillful mediums, remote viewers, etc. This should not be surprising, in my opinion, given that we don't know what physical complexities are involved in the transmission or the retrieval of information from nonlocal sources.[/QUOTE]i came away with a different opinion of Uri Geller aswell, basically i always thought he was abit of a tosser, but he bent a fork back infront of vallee in a restaurant, and twisted the shank, just by rubbing it, whilst sat at the same table, with his hands only 2/3 feet away from vallees eyes, right infront of him, a proper heavy duty restaurant fork, vallee said try as hard as he could, he could not bend his without using the edge of the table to bend the head back, and it was impossible for a man to put the twist into the thick handle part, by strength alone for any man, valley says he just stroked it, and it twisted, i dont for one minute think vallee imagined it, as he was the instigator, i dont see how the fork was anything other than a restaurant fork, the same type vallee himself tried to bend and twist by brute force.
he says that was the momment he knew he had something special and started to take him seriously, he also believed Gellers gift's were spasmodic, hence why he had to cheat some time's, because for Geller it was all about the money.