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Close the Billy Meier Thread?

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TerraX

Guest
Btw, I predict/prophecise that we will see some prophecies from Billy Meier on this topic where the aliens warn him that bad Korff is sticking his head out again. Stay tuned.
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
TerraX said:
Hi Gene. I started a seperate topic on that but if you want to keep it here I have no problem with it and you can delete the other thread.

Done. I figure we have enough threads on this subject already.
 

Aspie

Skilled Investigator
I emailed Dr. Jensen, one of unmentionables tree professors to see if he actually had made references to one of the pictures. I sent him this pic too

http://www.theyfly.com/newsflash5/images/wcufo_se.jpg

I was surprised to receive a reply back from him:



Thank you for doing this fact checking. Here is the direct quote that I provided to the person who made the initial inquiry of me (neither Mr. Horn nor Mr. Meier).



Initial Query:

?The aim is to get the best possible estimate of the height of the section of the tree that eclipses the UFO, as that then gives a minimum size to the height of the UFO.?



My response:

?Overall, this tree is certainly younger than those in the background, but beyond that, it's hard to tell. It's also hard to tell much about species--it's most likely to be a fir, Douglas-fir, or spruce, but I can't say much beyond that. Douglas-fir is not native to Europe, but it's commonly planted there.



The portion of the tree above the potential UFO appears to me to be in the range of 6-10 feet. Although it's pretty fuzzy, there appear to be 5 or 6 whorls of branches with an average growth (and this is just an educated guess) of 1-2 feet between whorls.?



As you can see, I did not verify that the photo is real, or that the object near its top (the potential UFO) is real?both of these judgments are beyond my expertise. I assumed that the tree is real although the photo is fuzzy enough that even this is difficult to verify with any confidence.



-- Ed Jensen
 

Mannyp4

Skilled Investigator
Wow kalkorff.com sound serious on this, usually M.H. post long writings in PAR forum when things like this shows up, now he did not, instead he just wrote a brief comment. (is he finally scare about scamming people with the meier hoax?)

What are you guys thoughts about?:

"Captain Kal Korff to lead Prosecution Team for Consumer Fraud Against Michael Horn and the Billy Meier ?UFO? Cult"

My is: "About time" or " What took them so long"
 
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TerraX

Guest
It's surprising that Korff would suddenly do a thing like this although I suspect he was keeping an eye out on things behind the scenes. How far this will transpire with the lawsuits I don't know. Yet I do find it satisfactory, this is what foulmouthed Horn with his shady tactics actually deserves. Take a look at the Jensen commentary in Aspie's post. Jensen didn't 100% verify the tree is large, he left that open. Horn naturally takes a positive quote and presents it as a complete endorsement, ripping it totally out of context. That's the kind of person you're dealing with here.
 

Mannyp4

Skilled Investigator
Sales are slow because of the holidays, M.H. goes to revive the hoax in all online forums again.:

New Video about Flying Saucers from Billy Meier, page 1
posted on 13-12-2006 at 07:38 PM

http://www.bvalphaserver.com/ftopict-59636-meier.html
Posted: Sat Dec 16, 2006 5:20 am Post subject: The End of the Meier Hoaxers...the Skeptics!

Forum Home
Posted: Sun Dec 17, 2006 10:34 pm

They are sites with long threads that like here make dust out of M.H. , so why he keeps opening or reviving the threads after he said many times that he will not coming back? Simple, Sales are slow

Note: who is he trying to fool by saying "Ritzmann couldn't duplicate one
photo of his model UFO next to one of his own miniature trees to
prove his point forced him to surrender and effectively withdraw his
claims of hoax, much the same way James Randi has."

Neither J.R. or Randi withdraw the claims of meier being a hoax, does he thinks no-one will go and find out? How can he purely lie that way and some people (assuming it's not himself using other nicks) defend him?

M.H. = Master of deceive and misquoting people. any of his "supporters" care to defend that? didn't think so!
 

jritzmann

Skilled Investigator
Mannyp4 said:
How can he purely lie that way and some people (assuming it's not himself using other nicks) defend him?

Because he counts on people taking his word on alot of stuff without really checking.

But we're losing touch with simple facts. For all the evidence he claims there is, there is none. No negatives, original photos from negatives or slides, no metal (although he recently admitted there WAS metal in Meier's posession that he denied for a long time...of course Meier wont let it be seen by any 3rd party metallurgist...LOL...go figure), no films, no nothing.

The way I look at it is anyone who believes this stuff has bigger issues to deal with then the likes of Horn.
 

Mannyp4

Skilled Investigator
This was posted by M.H. in his fantasy land:
"Regarding some numbskull who should have followed his own advice and
checked the facts before posting"

If someone is a numbskull it's you, everyone knows that even the people that follows you. I do check facts before posting that is why I don't fall for you misquoting tactics. They said they don't call it a hoax but they never said it is not a hoax either in the way you want to make look like, yet they call the photos hoaxes right? what does that tell you? grow up old man! lol go and collect the 1 million dollars with your evidence and shows us we are wrong. can you?

Can you stop mention J.R. already? even when you are in a discussion with other people like Korff you need to talk about J.R.? you don't have anything else to talk about? (J.R. must be your new god, without him you have nothing to talk about it seems) you are so ridiculous, you know that wcufo photo you are using was just posted to shows how it was going to be, it was not really finished yet. I dare you to use a misquoting and prove otherwise. Also you dare to talk about "copyright violator" ? when you posted J.R. photos in your site and in the presentation what where you doing? so doesn't that make you a "copyright violator"? you are pathetic!

"And feel free to point out the obvious, that MINIATURE TREE
CULTIVATOR, PHOTOGRAPHER, MODEL MAKER Jeff Ritzmann couldn't
duplicate ONE"

http://theparacast.com/forums/showthread.php?t=16&page=51
there are the duplicated photos.

Can you admit now that you just are a BS lier?
he duplicated more than one!! if he did not duplicate them, what was it that you were comparing meiers faked photos to? lol lier!

Have you ever read your own post? if you haven't please do so and see the anger,hate,fustraction,darkness,hell that you present in all forums with your childless behavior, yet you said your mission is to help others with a message of love and peace? Have you actually read the messages from the Plejarens? because the message didn't work with you. with your name calling you look like satan trying to convince people he is working for god.

would you buy a dvd about a message of love and peace from you?

What is the matter? picking in everyone now that you can't handle the big fishes.
 

RST

Paranormal Novice
Hi all. New poster here. I've listened to both of the Michael Horn interviews and read a good portion of the closed thread. I was unable to view the photo's posted on page 20 of the locked thread though (files don't open). Is there another place I can view the photo's and analyses by David? I've invested several hours on the drama now..I sure hope I get to see David's smoking gun! LOL
 

KorMan

Skilled Investigator
Another "newbie" is here. I've been following the contactee "scene" since the 50s, and have at one time or another privately communicated or corresponded with a fair number of the oldies—Adamski, Fry, van Tassel, Bethurum, Green, etc.—and finding this forum via Google gave this old, retired saucerphile a new venue.

Re Meier, his shtick reminds one more of a carnival side show than a serious contact narrative. His photos are obviously fraudulent, as even cursory analysis will testify. At the very least he needs to Photoshop them and conceal the hokum.

One also wonders why, with the bucks that he has harvested from his disciples, he didn't buy a decent camera with a non-stuck lens. Let FIGU get him a top-end Nikon or Canon digital job. I'd like a good shot of Semjase and/or Asket in a bikini (insert lusty smilie here).

I'll have to drift over to that thread and tweak the faithful. <img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v349/DocDoom777/evilgrin.gif" />
 

Mannyp4

Skilled Investigator
I was bored so I decided to check something up.
Does this look like someone that believe in something to be real or does it look like propaganda or sent by someone to do it as a job?

One day in the live of "Newinitiation" Mon Jan 08, 2007

1. Guest?? Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: Billy Meier's prophecies and predictions

http://www.sqlspace.com/billy-meier...528.html?sid=75a8424acfc75668b9367e5050b0f377

2. newinitiation Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 8:37 am Post subject: Shockingly Billy Meier's prophetic information comes true

Reality Uncovered Forums • View topic - Shockingly Billy Meier's prophetic information comes true

3. newinitiation Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: Billy Meier's genuine prophecies shockingly real

http://www.book-of-thoth.com/ftopict-10308.html

4. newinitiation Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 12:10 pm Billy Meier's prophetic information

http://www.psychics.co.uk/psychic-f...p?t=2950&sid=a17c3cf92d3f56683d92fb69dfdfb430

5. newinitiation Posted: Mon Jan 08, 2007 6:18 pm Post subject: Billy Meier's prophecies come true once again

http://www.bvalphaserver.com/ftopict-60093-meier.html

Probably there are a lot more (I didn't include the same thread done with different nicks that are all over the net) but this 5 will make the point.

Of course all those threads always follow with links. (we all know to where)

Jesus dude, lol how much are you getting pay?

Terrax, I hope you get a good laught at this :)
 

KorMan

Skilled Investigator
I hereby predict that in the year 2012, there will be 366 days because of a Plejaran/Ashtar conspiracy to make February longer so that the ascension can be delayed ... again.

I further predict that it will be discovered that the M person actually has two arms, but keeps one hidden from public view in order to arouse sympathy and to lend credibility to the argument that a one-armed man couldn't do all that stuff.

I also predict that Asket will be found to be with child after our midnight dalliance last month.
evilgrin.gif
 
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TerraX

Guest
Mannyp4 said:
One day in the live of "Newinitiation" Mon Jan 08, 2007 Jesus dude, lol how much are you getting pay? Terrax, I hope you get a good laught at this :)
That guy reminds me of StarGate SG-1 season 9 where the Ori are introduced. The Ori have mindless converted priests doing the propaganda work for them and their favored quote is "Hallowed are the Ori". Seems like we have a something similar here on earth but more like "Meier is the Prophet".
 

Mannyp4

Skilled Investigator
"Hallowed are the Ori" lol I also watch StarGate SG-1, but I got to admit that MH and the cult gang produce more sci fiction than the show.

All those post done in one single day!!!! Even though is mostly cut and paste The Ori doesn't have that kind of energy. lol
 

Gene Steinberg

Forum Super Hero
Staff member
Mannyp4 said:
"Hallowed are the Ori" lol I also watch StarGate SG-1, but I got to admit that MH and the cult gang produce more sci fiction than the show.

All those post done in one single day!!!! Even though is mostly cut and paste The Ori doesn't have that kind of energy. lol

Ah yes, Stargate SG-1 is in its final leg of its journey this spring, alas :(

I wonder how the Ori will be dispatched, or will they just take the enemy over to Stargate Atlantis when the Wraith arc concludes. If it concludes, of course.
 

aaron

Skilled Investigator
Gene Steinberg said:
Ah yes, Stargate SG-1 is in its final leg of its journey this spring, alas :(

I wonder how the Ori will be dispatched, or will they just take the enemy over to Stargate Atlantis when the Wraith arc concludes. If it concludes, of course.
I think that they are planning to wrap up the Ori storyline in one of two direct to DVD movies that they have planned. You can find more details about the movies at Gateworld

On Atlantis they already have the replicators and the Wraith. I think their hands are full for the moment.
 

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