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No, you are not hearing me. I never said there wasn't a heat event, I'm simply stating that Zamora said the flames from the exhaust did NOT splay out as if deflected by the ground, they knifed INTO the ground. Re-read your Stanford and pay attention to direct Zamora's quote.

No hole, no indication that any heat hit the ground, except the rocks w/ the vitrified crystals—one of rocks Ray was able to hang onto. He wants to get it tested w/ a mass spectrometer, (if I remember correctly) to see if anything can be determined, etc...

Instead of being deflected by the ground and spaying out like your garden variety rocket fuel flame, the flame on the Socorro object knifed directly into the ground. This description suggested to Stanford and Hynek that a highly advanced propulsion system that may operate on a sub-atomic level.

Uh, a flame that knifed into the ground and did not splay out like mundane jet engine flame? Doesn't sound very mundane to me!

And how do you know that for sure? With all the classified launches over the past 30-40 years, they could have a crap load of outward facing detectors, or detectors that are omni-directional, etc...

They vary. DSP satellites are geosynchronous and 22,000 miles out.

First of all, how much do you know about the NRO? They design, build, and operate the reconnaissance satellites of the U.S. federal government, and provide satellite intelligence to several government agencies, particularly signals intelligence to the NSA, imagery intelligence to the National...

The conversation became sidetracked and I forgot to bring it up again. Next time...

Notice how the subject was immediately changed and my question about the lack of any conversations about the role of the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) was completely ignored. The rarely mentioned NRO is never cited in any article about this latest supposed "bombshell" story, not does...

What's a chook?

By John Rappoport Article HERE: ...For far too long, government insiders who offer UFO “revelations have been given a free pass. They should be treated like any other sources for breaking stories. “Your information is fascinating, but I have lots of questions about you and your background.”...

The descriptions of the object remind me of my March 27, 2005 (3:00 pm) daylight sighting of a 30' flying chicken egg (traveling S to N up Oak Creek Canyon in Sedona). To another observer it coulda looked like a tic-tac.

Still like it...

Here's to a great productive, fun New Year, uhh but w/ much less political excitement and noise, please...

Good article!

Excellent, spot on analysis. Recommended reading!

Excellent Nevada NPR interview w/ George Knapp & John Alexander. Good tag-team analysis dumbed down a bit for the average Joe... I have extended invites for both to come on the show... more later.

Lue. When can we get you on The Paracast? We'd welcome the opportunity to speak w/ you further about these recent revelations + other topics as well.

I agree 100% but we'll only know for sure if we try!

That was my point exactly. Plus, how come nobody ever mentions the seldom mentioned National Reconnoissance Office (NRO) they must have several metaphorical tons of data detecting craft entering and leaving the Earth's airspace—if we are truly dealing w/ extra-terrestrials. Ron Regehr says that...