Ben Rich, Skunk Works, and MUFON

[rhcball]

I came upon a story today from a somewhat questionable source regarding a story in last May's MUFON journal about Skunk Works guy Ben Rich allegedly confessing several fantastic things before his death. I'm not privy to MUFON publications, and am wondering if anyone here has any insight into this story--including possibly whether the sources are the types that one can give the benefit of the doubt to.

Here's the link to the garbled secondhand version I got:

Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed CEO Had Admitted In His Deathbed Confession |UFO News|UFO Footage|2010 UFO Sightings|Alien Pictures|Coverup|Disclosure Project|Web Bot

(Also, apologies if this has been covered on here before, I did a quick scan and couldn't find anything)

 

[spacebrother]

I think Rich hinted at such things in interviews during his life, such as his statement that we had the technology to "send E.T. home." That covers a lot of possibilities from the mundane to the fantastic, so I'd be skeptical of these new revelations until the source and method of gaining access to these quotes are vetted. There are many quotes in that article, many of which sound like rumors. Rich also had the motivation and expertise to be evasive about his secret work until the end of his life. If he said anything publicly, then both us (U.S. citizens) and potential enemies would hear about it, and there are still good reasons for dropping misleading hints.

On the other hand, perhaps he was trying to hint at something midway between "We copied ET tech" and "We developed something that would be indistinguishable from ET craft, if we had any examples." The "All points time and space are connected" comment seems closest to the mark. We don't need aliens to tell us that, but we might need hints. Whether those come from our best and brightest or some non-humans, I don't know.

I have this feeling that the truth of the matter lies in areas that we tend to ignore and less in what we want to believe, but is years ahead of what so-called skeptical pundits might think.

 

[trainedobserver]

One of the problems I have with the idea that we have a large cache of uber-tech somewhere is there have been and are numerous disasters, wars, and diseases that it could be applied to ... yet no uber-tech. The recent oil-spill for example. Would we have seen the uber-tech come out after 12 months, 24 months, ... see what I'm getting at? What is it going to take for the uber-tech to be drawn out and used? WWIII? Alien invasion? Solar catastrophe?

 

[Kandinsky]

One of the problems I have with the idea that we have a large cache of uber-tech somewhere is there have been and are numerous disasters, wars, and diseases that it could be applied to ... yet no uber-tech. The recent oil-spill for example. Would we have seen the uber-tech come out after 12 months, 24 months, ... see what I'm getting at? What is it going to take for the uber-tech to be drawn out and used? WWIII? Alien invasion? Solar catastrophe?

I have the same kind of ideas. There's a knee-jerk reaction that follows reports of nuts n bolts craft or strange flight characteristics and it's often to assert...'black projects' or 'secret weapons.' They might then cite the US black budget and throw in mention of the B-2 Spirit. The really ambitious commentator might add how the secret technology world is 'decades' more advanced than commercial or military technology.

But nope...here we are 50 or 60 years of the same explanations. Still using ballistics to launch rockets with chemical or fossil fuels. Still firing missiles from fairly conventional craft like the drones.

 

[ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM]

I think Rich hinted at such things in interviews during his life, such as his statement that we had the technology to "send E.T. home." That covers a lot of possibilities from the mundane to the fantastic, so I'd be skeptical of these new revelations until the source and method of gaining access to these quotes are vetted. There are many quotes in that article, many of which sound like rumors. Rich also had the motivation and expertise to be evasive about his secret work until the end of his life. If he said anything publicly, then both us (U.S. citizens) and potential enemies would hear about it, and there are still good reasons for dropping misleading hints.

On the other hand, perhaps he was trying to hint at something midway between "We copied ET tech" and "We developed something that would be indistinguishable from ET craft, if we had any examples." The "All points time and space are connected" comment seems closest to the mark. We don't need aliens to tell us that, but we might need hints. Whether those come from our best and brightest or some non-humans, I don't know.

I have this feeling that the truth of the matter lies in areas that we tend to ignore and less in what we want to believe, but is years ahead of what so-called skeptical pundits might think.

I have to agree Spacebrother corporation espionage is part and parcel of so called moral World Trade regarding company secrets. If Mr Ben Rich had disclosure such type of technologies it might have been a Cold War-Post Cold War tactic for other ear-dropping Intel!

However, its nice to think that humanity might have reached such goals to take so called Et back home

 

[trainedobserver]

However, its nice to think that humanity might have reached such goals to take so called Et back home

If alien abduction stories are true I would like to think humanity might have reached such goals as to kick ETs little grey ass and send him home packing.

 

[rhcball]

Regarding craft operating on exotic propulsion, maybe 'zero point,' I think Richard Dolan pointed out once that if you can derive all this power just out of your surroundings, then there has to be an equal potential to weaponize it. Thus it's in the Powers That Be's best interest to keep a tight lid on it, considering the possible dangers. For me this does a decent job of explaining why nothing like that--if it exists--is anywhere near the spotlight.

But if they do have these devices, and we aren't seeing them in any public role, I start to suspect that much of the motivation behind their development is tied to purposes that are off-earth.

There's obviously speculation regarding the black triangles, but I have a hard time comprehending why, if these are 'ours,' they use them just to cruise the skies and allegedly advance some obscure psychological operation. My whole problem with the psy-op speculation is that it's been sort of a horrible failure, if true. Public interest in the phenomenon still seems to be relatively minor and confined to the fringe, and if the goal is to initiate some New Age-y religious revival, the outcome of decades of work has yielded a relatively insignificant smattering of unconnected cults. John Alexander came from a similar angle regarding the MILAB issue, noting that they've spent a great deal of time and money on something that doesn't seem to have done much of anything on a large scale (besides yielding a few more bushels of paranoid internet fruit).

Apologies if all this is unrelated to the initial topic. Just some stuff that's been bobbing around in my head in response to digesting the varied conspiratorial speculations over the last few years.