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May 19, 2012
The Case for the Aztec UFO Crash Presented on The Paracast
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Sunday, May 20, 2012: The Paracast covers a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions across the planet.
Set Up: The Paracast is a paranormal radio show that takes you on a journey to a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions. The Paracast seeks to shed light on the mysteries and complexities of our Universe and the secrets that surround us in our everyday lives.
Join long-time paranormal researcher Gene Steinberg, co-host Christopher O'Brien, and a panel of special guest experts and experiencers, as they explore the realms of the known and unknown. Listen each week to the great stories of the history of the paranormal field in the 20th and 21st centuries.
This Week's Episode: Gene and Chris present an episode about one of the most controversial cases in the annals of UFO history is the Aztec crash, which supposedly occurred in 1948. But the case has long played second fiddle to the Roswell crash, and hasn't been taken seriously over the years by many researchers into the subject. But Scott and Suzanne Ramsey have spent 25 years gathering evidence that they believe proves the crash really occurred, and involved a craft of unknown origin. After some delays, the results of their research appears in their new book: The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon.
Christopher O'Brien's Site: http://www.ourstrangeplanet.com/
Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: The Paracast Community Forums. We recently completed a major update that makes our community easier to navigate, and social network friendly.
So What Really Happened at Hart Canyon?
By Gene Steinberg
Whenever you ask someone about a possible flying saucer crash in New Mexico in the 1940s, it’s a sure thing almost everyone who has taken a moment to consider the question will answer that you must be talking about Roswell. But months later, near Aztec, New Mexico, there may have been yet another crash of a strange craft, an event often ignored or overlooked by most people interested in UFOs.
To be sure, the Aztec episode had a controversial gestation. It was first written about in the late Frank Scully’s best-selling UFO book, “Behind the Flying Saucers,” which was published in 1950. But Scully’s credibility went out the window with reports that two of his key sources faced court action as the result of alleged fraudulent business activity. The theory being that, if they tried to make money from bogus business deals, they were perfectly capable of inventing stories about a flying saucer crash for reasons best known to themselves.
Of course questionable business practices are very much a part of our culture these days, and very few offenders pay for their offenses. More important, there appear to be gray areas about the case involving Scully’s sources, but that’s beyond the scope of this article.
By and large, the Aztec story pretty much remained dormant until the publication of “UFO Crash at Aztec: A Well Kept Secret” by William S. Steinman and Wendelle C. Stevens in 1987. This thick book laid out a detailed case asserting that a large disc-shaped crash landed at Hart Canyon, near Aztec, on March 25, 1948.
The story picks up with North Carolina businessman Scott Ramsey’s 25-year quest to find out what really happened at Aztec. His journey cost him, he says, roughly half a million dollars, and has resulted in the publication of “The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon,” a 216-page book that chronicles the results of this investigation.
Written with his wife Suzanne, whom he met and married during the course of his Aztec research, the book’s authors also include Dr. Frank Thayer and Frank Warren, and reveals a tremendous about of research. If anything, you might consider this book the prosecutor’s case, since the final conclusion is that an unusual event did, in fact, occur.
From a practical standpoint, this book will not change the minds of anyone who is wedded to a pro or con point of view. Yes, the Ramseys do offer an eyewitness report of a UFO sighting near Aztec around the time of the alleged crash. Yes, there is also direct testimony from people, young at the time, who reportedly encountered the landing or crash site, and actually saw a huge flying saucer, 100 feet in diameter. The craft was supposedly intact, with only a tiny puncture in one of the portholes. According to the reports, someone accidentally triggered a mechanism that caused a stairway to emerge from the craft.
As to the occupants, several small beings, burnt beyond recognition, were observed. However, there’s no indication whether or not they were human or something other than human. During his interview taped for the May 20th episode of The Paracast, Ramsey stated that they were not described as grays.
Some time later, possible military personnel appeared, though they were wearing so-called “generic” uniforms that did not identify a specific agency. Witnesses were supposedly informed that they saw nothing, and they were told to tell nobody. These days, such an admonition would probably be of limited benefit. Someone would simply post the story on Facebook, or appear on a talk show to explain what they saw, regardless of the consequences. We don’t believe or even respect authorities nowadays. But in the 1940s, Americans believed in their government, and would obey such warnings without question.
According to the book, the only visible remnant of this alleged crash is a cement slab that may have been used to transport the craft from the scene. Assuming the craft was that large, however, you wonder how that task might be accomplished, particularly using mid-twentieth century technology. The Ramseys suggest that the saucer might have somehow been disassembled, so it could be transported in pieces. Considering the desolate area, none of these activities would have drawn attention from the populace, once the initial eyewitnesses were dealt with.
This is certainly a short summary of a book replete with a number of interviews and documents. Through it all, however, there is no smoking gun, no final proof of what might have really happened. Having interviewed witnesses years after the actual event, it’s not possible to know how details may have been embellished or forgotten over the decades. If you accept the size of the UFO at face value, something strange was clearly going on. If the descriptions of the object’s size were wrong, or severely inflated, it’s always possible that the event involved a crash landing of a test aircraft. It’s well known, that, over the years, the U.S. government has experimented with circular aircraft of one sort or another.
If you are a believer, “The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon,” will reinforce those beliefs with an extensive amount of confirmation. If you’re a skeptic, you will probably remain skeptical, particularly considering the lack of substantial evidence beyond the remembrances of people in their golden years of events that transpired long, long ago. If you’re on the fence, however, you may find yourself convinced that there is a case here worthy of further investigation.
But as with Roswell, it is clear to me that the Aztec case will never be resolved once and for all, at least in our lifetimes. Sure, it is possible that the U.S. government will some day disclose all the evidence it possesses about UFOs, and that some of that evidence will vindicate one’s belief in the reality of Roswell and possibly Aztec. In saying that, I very much appreciate all the work that the Ramseys and their colleagues have done to present the case for Aztec in a reasonably thorough, cogent fashion. This book is a good read.
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May 19, 2012
The Case for the Aztec UFO Crash Presented on The Paracast
Special Announcement: The Paracast is heard Sundays from 2:00 AM until 5:00 AM Central Time on the GCN Radio Network and affiliates around the USA, and online across the globe via download and on-demand streaming.
Please Consider a Donation to The Paracast: Although ads help cover a small part of our expenses, the income they produce is never enough. Also, we do not receive any revenue from the ads placed on the show by our network or local stations. So we hope you're able to help fill the gap if you can to help us cover increasing server costs and other expenses -- or perhaps provide a little extra cash for lunch. No contribution is too small (or too large
. We have a Donate link on our home page, below the logo and audio player. There's also a Donate link on our forums, at the bottom of the sidebar on the right. Or just send your PayPal donation direct to sales (at) theparacast (dot) com.Attention U.S. Listeners: Help Us Bring The Paracast to Your City! In the summer of 2010, The Paracast joined the GCN radio network. This represented a huge step in bringing our show to a larger, mainstream audience. But we need your help to add additional affiliates to our growing network. Please ask one of your local talk stations if they are interested in carrying The Paracast. Feel free to contact us directly with the names of programming people we might be able to contact on your behalf. We can't do this alone, and if you succeed in convincing your local station to carry the show, we'll reward you with one of our special T-shirts, and other goodies. With your help, The Paracast can grow into one of the most popular paranormal shows on the planet!
Please Visit Our Brand New Online Store: You asked, and we answered. We are now taking orders for The Official Paracast T-Shirt and an expanded collection of other specially customized merchandise. To get your T-Shirt now featuring our brand new logo, just pay a visit to our online store at The Official Paracast Store to select your size and place your order. We also offer a complete lineup of other premium merchandise for your family, your friends and your business contacts.
Sunday, May 20, 2012: The Paracast covers a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions across the planet.
Set Up: The Paracast is a paranormal radio show that takes you on a journey to a world beyond science, where UFOs, poltergeists and strange phenomena of all kinds have been reported by millions. The Paracast seeks to shed light on the mysteries and complexities of our Universe and the secrets that surround us in our everyday lives.
Join long-time paranormal researcher Gene Steinberg, co-host Christopher O'Brien, and a panel of special guest experts and experiencers, as they explore the realms of the known and unknown. Listen each week to the great stories of the history of the paranormal field in the 20th and 21st centuries.
This Week's Episode: Gene and Chris present an episode about one of the most controversial cases in the annals of UFO history is the Aztec crash, which supposedly occurred in 1948. But the case has long played second fiddle to the Roswell crash, and hasn't been taken seriously over the years by many researchers into the subject. But Scott and Suzanne Ramsey have spent 25 years gathering evidence that they believe proves the crash really occurred, and involved a craft of unknown origin. After some delays, the results of their research appears in their new book: The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon.
Christopher O'Brien's Site: http://www.ourstrangeplanet.com/
Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: The Paracast Community Forums. We recently completed a major update that makes our community easier to navigate, and social network friendly.
So What Really Happened at Hart Canyon?
By Gene Steinberg
Whenever you ask someone about a possible flying saucer crash in New Mexico in the 1940s, it’s a sure thing almost everyone who has taken a moment to consider the question will answer that you must be talking about Roswell. But months later, near Aztec, New Mexico, there may have been yet another crash of a strange craft, an event often ignored or overlooked by most people interested in UFOs.
To be sure, the Aztec episode had a controversial gestation. It was first written about in the late Frank Scully’s best-selling UFO book, “Behind the Flying Saucers,” which was published in 1950. But Scully’s credibility went out the window with reports that two of his key sources faced court action as the result of alleged fraudulent business activity. The theory being that, if they tried to make money from bogus business deals, they were perfectly capable of inventing stories about a flying saucer crash for reasons best known to themselves.
Of course questionable business practices are very much a part of our culture these days, and very few offenders pay for their offenses. More important, there appear to be gray areas about the case involving Scully’s sources, but that’s beyond the scope of this article.
By and large, the Aztec story pretty much remained dormant until the publication of “UFO Crash at Aztec: A Well Kept Secret” by William S. Steinman and Wendelle C. Stevens in 1987. This thick book laid out a detailed case asserting that a large disc-shaped crash landed at Hart Canyon, near Aztec, on March 25, 1948.
The story picks up with North Carolina businessman Scott Ramsey’s 25-year quest to find out what really happened at Aztec. His journey cost him, he says, roughly half a million dollars, and has resulted in the publication of “The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon,” a 216-page book that chronicles the results of this investigation.
Written with his wife Suzanne, whom he met and married during the course of his Aztec research, the book’s authors also include Dr. Frank Thayer and Frank Warren, and reveals a tremendous about of research. If anything, you might consider this book the prosecutor’s case, since the final conclusion is that an unusual event did, in fact, occur.
From a practical standpoint, this book will not change the minds of anyone who is wedded to a pro or con point of view. Yes, the Ramseys do offer an eyewitness report of a UFO sighting near Aztec around the time of the alleged crash. Yes, there is also direct testimony from people, young at the time, who reportedly encountered the landing or crash site, and actually saw a huge flying saucer, 100 feet in diameter. The craft was supposedly intact, with only a tiny puncture in one of the portholes. According to the reports, someone accidentally triggered a mechanism that caused a stairway to emerge from the craft.
As to the occupants, several small beings, burnt beyond recognition, were observed. However, there’s no indication whether or not they were human or something other than human. During his interview taped for the May 20th episode of The Paracast, Ramsey stated that they were not described as grays.
Some time later, possible military personnel appeared, though they were wearing so-called “generic” uniforms that did not identify a specific agency. Witnesses were supposedly informed that they saw nothing, and they were told to tell nobody. These days, such an admonition would probably be of limited benefit. Someone would simply post the story on Facebook, or appear on a talk show to explain what they saw, regardless of the consequences. We don’t believe or even respect authorities nowadays. But in the 1940s, Americans believed in their government, and would obey such warnings without question.
According to the book, the only visible remnant of this alleged crash is a cement slab that may have been used to transport the craft from the scene. Assuming the craft was that large, however, you wonder how that task might be accomplished, particularly using mid-twentieth century technology. The Ramseys suggest that the saucer might have somehow been disassembled, so it could be transported in pieces. Considering the desolate area, none of these activities would have drawn attention from the populace, once the initial eyewitnesses were dealt with.
This is certainly a short summary of a book replete with a number of interviews and documents. Through it all, however, there is no smoking gun, no final proof of what might have really happened. Having interviewed witnesses years after the actual event, it’s not possible to know how details may have been embellished or forgotten over the decades. If you accept the size of the UFO at face value, something strange was clearly going on. If the descriptions of the object’s size were wrong, or severely inflated, it’s always possible that the event involved a crash landing of a test aircraft. It’s well known, that, over the years, the U.S. government has experimented with circular aircraft of one sort or another.
If you are a believer, “The Aztec Incident: Recovery at Hart Canyon,” will reinforce those beliefs with an extensive amount of confirmation. If you’re a skeptic, you will probably remain skeptical, particularly considering the lack of substantial evidence beyond the remembrances of people in their golden years of events that transpired long, long ago. If you’re on the fence, however, you may find yourself convinced that there is a case here worthy of further investigation.
But as with Roswell, it is clear to me that the Aztec case will never be resolved once and for all, at least in our lifetimes. Sure, it is possible that the U.S. government will some day disclose all the evidence it possesses about UFOs, and that some of that evidence will vindicate one’s belief in the reality of Roswell and possibly Aztec. In saying that, I very much appreciate all the work that the Ramseys and their colleagues have done to present the case for Aztec in a reasonably thorough, cogent fashion. This book is a good read.
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