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Your Paracast Newsletter — March 22, 2020

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March 22, 2020


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This Week's Episode: Gene and Randall present science writer Sarah Scoles, author of They Are Already Here: UFO Culture and Why We See Saucers and Making Contact: Jill Tarter and the Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence. She is a Denver-based freelance science writer, a contributing writer at WIRED Science, and a contributing editor at Popular Science. Her background includes a stint as associate editor at Astronomy and as a public education person at the National Radio Astronomy Observatory in Green Bank, West Virginia. When not making sentences or recording conversations, Sarah enjoys reading short story collections, running weirdly long distances in the wilderness, teaching her dog English, and trying to become a better navigator. Guest panelist is Curt Collins.

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After The Paracast -- Available exclusively for Paracast+ subscribers on March 22: In a very special episode, Gene and Randall present a compelling discussion about the Pentagon UFO Study/Robert Bigelow/MUFON connection featuring researcher Curt Collins, who coauthored an article on the subject. According to Curt, "AATIP [Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program] news has surfaced, including a batch of documents that prove payments from Pentagon’s AAWSAP [Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program] and Robert Bigelow to a civilian UFO organization -- MUFON." He says that Part II is including "comments from some of the MUFON players that were involved, a short interview with James Carrion and further details about Robert Bigelow and his AATIP connections and activities."

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The Pentagon UFO Study/Robert Bigelow/MUFON Connection
Special Report from Roger Glassell and Curt Collins

Editor’s Note: In the March 22 episode of After The Paracast, Gene and Randall present a compelling discussion about the Pentagon UFO Study/Robert Bigelow/MUFON connection featuring researcher Curt Collins, who coauthored an article on the subject. The following is an excerpt of Part II of the article, which summarizes the contents of Part I.

In our previous article, The Pentagon UFO Program’s Secret Partner, we revealed a previously hidden chapter of the AATIP story. For those who need a glossary for the alphabet soup involved:

AATIP: Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program

AAWSAP: Advanced Aerospace Weapon Systems Applications Program

BAASS: Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (owned by Robert Bigelow)

DIA: United States Defense Intelligence Agency

DoD: United States Department of Defense

MUFON: Mutual UFO Network (largest civilian UFO group in the USA)

NIDS: National Institute for Discovery Science

SIP: MUFON’s STAR Team Impact Project (UFO field investigations)


In the eyes of Congress, the DIA, and Pentagon spokespersons, AATIP and AAWSAP were the same project, and Dr. Hal Puthoff has stated that AATIP was just a nickname for AAWSAP. However, Luis Elizondo differentiates the two as distinctly separate. Throughout our articles, we have used AAWSAP to refer to the original program, and mostly used AATIP to refer to how the project was discussed after it was publicly revealed.

To Recap our Previous Article:

Newly surfaced documents show how in 2008, billionaire Robert Bigelow was contracted by the US Government’s Defense Intelligence Agency, and in turn his Bigelow Aerospace Advanced Space Studies (BAASS) subcontracted a civilian group, the Mutual UFO Network (MUFON) to write scientific papers and to conduct field investigations of UFO sightings. However, MUFON was duped. Bigelow did not reveal that their funding came from the Pentagon. Another strange angle is that the language used in the contract and the studies ordered avoided UFO terminology, and it appears to have been a deception to conceal what the government was funding.

Under the BAASS contract, UFO data was to be obtained in three ways. First, the “MUFON Advanced Technology Establishment” (MATE) prepared five scientific papers on advanced aerospace performance, for which they were paid $10,000. Second, they wanted MUFON’s files, and third, to pay them $56,000 a month for on-the-spot investigations of new UFO sightings. It all went sour over the money, and the two parties had an ugly break up in early 2010. Here’s a sanitized official view of the BAASS arrangement from John Schuessler, in “A Brief History of MUFON,” from 2012:

“In 2008, [director] James Carrion, Jan Harzan, Chuck Modlin and John Schuessler met with Robert Bigelow and his team... Later, Carrion negotiated a contract with Bigelow Aerospace that allowed MUFON to organize a funded rapid-response effort that could put investigators in the field on high value UFO cases within 24-hours. It also gave Bigelow Aerospace access to the MUFON Case Management System. Unfortunately, dissident UFO buffs quickly came up with nonsense conspiracy theories about the cooperative agreement and spread malcontent and disinformation about it across the Internet.”

The truth that has emerged shows that much of that alleged disinformation was correct.

In the Dec. 16, 2017, New York Times article that broke the news about the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), it revealed that Robert Bigelow’s company “hired subcontractors and solicited research for the program.” That confirmed what had been suspected by some, that Bigelow was working for the Pentagon, and that his work with MUFON had been part of it.

That disclosure went largely unnoticed at the time, with the focus put on the Navy UFO videos released in connection with the story.

What changed things was Tim McMillan’s Feb. 14, 2020, article, Inside the Pentagon's Secret UFO Program, which revealed that the BAASS 10 Month Report to the Pentagon included material from MUFON investigations. That set Roger Glassel in motion, and what we found caused us to reexamine AATIP history with a new set of eyes.

The preceding column is an excerpt from Part II of The Pentagon UFO Program’s Secret Partner © 2020 Roger Glassell and Curt Collins. Reproduced with permission.

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