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August 14, 2016
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Walter Bosley and Alejandro Rojas Debate Breakaway Civilizations on The Paracast
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This Week's Episode: If you need a wake-up call in the dog days of summer, there’s always the one and only Walter Bosley. He’s an author, blogger, former AFOSI agent and a former FBI counterintelligence specialist. He has covered mass shootings, breakaway civilizations, lost civilizations and more. On this episode, Walter joins Gene and Chris to talk about pop culture, Star Trek and aliens, and today’s messy political environment and its possible relationship to the secret forces that may be in control of world events. We are joined by special guest Alejandro Rojas, of OpenMinds.tv, who engages in a spirited debate with Walter on the reality of breakaway civilizations.
Chris O’Brien’s Site: Our Strange Planet
Walter Bosley’s Blog: Empire of the Wheel
OpenMinds: You are being redirected...
After The Paracast -- Available exclusively to Paracast+ subscribers on August 14: NOTE: Due to location constraints, our guests used phones rather than a Skype connection, so audio quality is lower than normal. This episode features a frank and provocative discussion with Greg Bishop and Walter Bosley. We explain why we aren’t talking about politics on this show. The discussion moves to the subject of Internet chatting, flaming and other offensive behavior. Greg and Walter talk about the endemic problems with the news media, and the difficulties finding sources of accurate coverage of the events of the day and the paranormal. Since the Air Force is long out of the flying saucer business, and the news media, in large part, doesn’t care about the subject except as fillers and entertainment, where do people report sightings? If they don’t know about such places as NUFORC and MUFON, do they keep it all to themselves? The discussion moves to the buil t-in bias in the questions posed by such organizations that separate the person from the event. Gene and Greg briefly recall their meetings with John Keel decades ago, and his shortcomings in doing careful research. Walter cites his investigative methodology while a government agent as a way to set up a proper structure for asking questions about paranormal experiences. Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: The Paracast Community Forums.
So What About Alien Secrets?
By Gene Steinberg
Back in the 1950s, Major Donald Keyhoe claimed that the U.S. government controlled the secret of the flying saucers. He would often refer to the agency or group that hid the truth from the public as the “Silence Group.” It’s a name that stuck; it’s been used by others over the years, but it’s also a convenient excuse to explain the lack of progress in UFO research.
So if the government already knew what UFO enthusiasts wanted to know, maybe they should seek disclosure rather than figure it out it for themselves.
Of course, there’s nothing wrong with taking a parallel path. Continue UFO research and get as much data as you can, while seeing what might be done to unearth some government secrets.
Unfortunately, it hasn’t actually been proven that any government knows anything about UFOs beyond what the public knows, except for details about such matters as a top secret project, or the names of intelligence officers who need to be protected. None of that means that they have proof that UFOs are really space ships, or whether or not they are friendly.
Sure, there have been so-called whistle blowers from time to time, without any real evidence that what they report is true. You might recall the late Colonel Philip Corso’s book, “The Day After Roswell,” a whistle-blowing document of a sort. But it’s not as if much of what he wrote passed the smell test. Indeed, when I read it some years back, I felt I was going through a passably-written spy novel, a work of fiction, rather than a factual report of someone’s genuine experiences managing covert alien technology allegedly reverse engineered from the crashed Roswell spaceship.
So if you believe Corso, he was the bag man (or bag person to be politically correct) who stored some of that material in a file cabinet when he wasn’t quietly moving it on to private industry. But the critics cited misstatements in his accounts about his government service, and the parallel evidence that such inventions as night vision goggles and printed circuits were really invented by our own scientists and engineers.
Now I suppose it’s possible the documentation about such technologies was deliberately altered by government agents, say the Silence Group. Or could it have been the MIB? Perhaps some progress had already been made, and alien technology merely helped to fill in a few blanks.
Of course, it’s all based on a single assumption, that a spaceship really and truly crashed near Roswell, NM in 1947, and that Earth scientists were able to make head or tails of the technology that came into their hands. For the sake of argument, I’ll accept the cultural myth that the crash was genuine, even though there are credible theories, still, that it may have been something totally conventional. Consider a test aircraft or a balloon.
Regardless, even if alien technology was found, would we even be able to figure it out? Imagine that the spaceship was piloted by a spacefaring crew possibly hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us? The technology, to paraphrase one famous description, might be more akin to magic than anything we could understand.
As an corollary, take an Apple iPhone, circa 2016. Now send it back in time to the fifteenth century. Look at your history books to see what scientists knew when Christopher Columbus was taking his famous voyage across the oceans to discover America. How would even the most advanced scientists of his day manage to figure out what the iPhone was all about? Assuming the battery was still charged, I suppose they would manage to turn it on, but the images on the display, even if readable, wouldn’t make very much sense. Just what is Safari anyway?
Besides, without the cloud or a cellular network, there’s not a whole lot an iPhone can do beyond examine stuff that’s already stored on the handset. Once the battery died, the screen would darken, and this magical device would no longer work.
I assume they would pry it apart with a jeweler’s implements, and possibly without much damage. But what would they make of the logic board, the display assembly, the onboard sensors, and what about the battery? The term “battery” was, according to history, first used by Benjamin Franklin in 1749 when he was conducting experiments with electricity.
In short, the iPhone, after the battery was spent, would be a doorstop. It would very likely be far beyond the ability of fifteenth century science to figure out much about it. It would be little more than a curiosity to them, or perhaps a gift from God? If they could only understand His message.
Sure, we have reason to be proud of the ability of our science to figure things out based on what we believe to be advanced technology. But would scientists make sense of our own technology 500 or 1,000 years hence? Alien technology? Would they really contain anything that would lead to printed circuits and night vision goggles? That strains credibility.
Or maybe the Roswell craft, if it was a flying ship of some sort, really wasn’t so advanced after all. What if some hidden or breakaway civilization located within caverns, or beneath the ocean, sent aloft their own aircraft only to have it encounter mechanical or electronic problems? Maybe it’s only a decade or two farther advanced than our known technology, but enough to teach scientists a few tricks that could be reverse engineered.
In other words, perhaps Roswell didn’t involve space visitors, but Earth people. Perhaps the reports — which remain controversial to this very day — of small aliens recovered from the ship, actually involved a perfectly normal human crew. But the story was clouded over the years using flying saucer lore as a cover.
Is any of this even true?
As I said, the Corso book is regarded skeptically. The ability to reverse engineer advanced alien technology in the space of a few years, beginning in the late 1940s, is also questionable. Maybe we could achieve a few successes now in a world where we are working on quantum computers and considering the rudimentary theories of warp drive. But certainly not then.
So even if Earth governments recovered the wreckage of a crashed flying saucer, the likelihood that they’d figure out much about it is extremely slim. If nothing has been recovered, and UFOs don’t seem to present evidence of a threat to national security, a government’s best approach dealing with all those sightings might be “out of sight, out of mind.”
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August 14, 2016
www.theparacast.com
Walter Bosley and Alejandro Rojas Debate Breakaway Civilizations on The Paracast
The Paracast is heard Sundays from 3:00 AM until 6:00 AM Central Time on the GCN Radio Network and affiliates around the USA, the Boost Radio Network, the IRN Internet Radio Network, and online across the globe via download and on-demand streaming.
SUPPORT THE SHOW AND ENJOY A PREMIUM PARACAST EXPERIENCE! We have another radio show and we’d love for you listen to it. So for a low subscription fee, you will receive access to After The Paracast, plus a higher-quality version of The Paracast free of network ads, and chat rooms when you sign up for The Paracast+. We also offer a special RSS feed for easy updates of the latest episodes, the new Paracast+ Video Channel, episode transcripts, Special Features and Classic Episodes. Check out our new “Lifetime” membership! For more information about our premium package, please visit: Introducing The Paracast+ | The Paracast — The Gold Standard of Paranormal Radio.
This Week's Episode: If you need a wake-up call in the dog days of summer, there’s always the one and only Walter Bosley. He’s an author, blogger, former AFOSI agent and a former FBI counterintelligence specialist. He has covered mass shootings, breakaway civilizations, lost civilizations and more. On this episode, Walter joins Gene and Chris to talk about pop culture, Star Trek and aliens, and today’s messy political environment and its possible relationship to the secret forces that may be in control of world events. We are joined by special guest Alejandro Rojas, of OpenMinds.tv, who engages in a spirited debate with Walter on the reality of breakaway civilizations.
Chris O’Brien’s Site: Our Strange Planet
Walter Bosley’s Blog: Empire of the Wheel
OpenMinds: You are being redirected...
After The Paracast -- Available exclusively to Paracast+ subscribers on August 14: NOTE: Due to location constraints, our guests used phones rather than a Skype connection, so audio quality is lower than normal. This episode features a frank and provocative discussion with Greg Bishop and Walter Bosley. We explain why we aren’t talking about politics on this show. The discussion moves to the subject of Internet chatting, flaming and other offensive behavior. Greg and Walter talk about the endemic problems with the news media, and the difficulties finding sources of accurate coverage of the events of the day and the paranormal. Since the Air Force is long out of the flying saucer business, and the news media, in large part, doesn’t care about the subject except as fillers and entertainment, where do people report sightings? If they don’t know about such places as NUFORC and MUFON, do they keep it all to themselves? The discussion moves to the buil t-in bias in the questions posed by such organizations that separate the person from the event. Gene and Greg briefly recall their meetings with John Keel decades ago, and his shortcomings in doing careful research. Walter cites his investigative methodology while a government agent as a way to set up a proper structure for asking questions about paranormal experiences. Reminder: Please don't forget to visit our famous Paracast Community Forums for the latest news/views/debates on all things paranormal: The Paracast Community Forums.
So What About Alien Secrets?
By Gene Steinberg
Back in the 1950s, Major Donald Keyhoe claimed that the U.S. government controlled the secret of the flying saucers. He would often refer to the agency or group that hid the truth from the public as the “Silence Group.” It’s a name that stuck; it’s been used by others over the years, but it’s also a convenient excuse to explain the lack of progress in UFO research.
So if the government already knew what UFO enthusiasts wanted to know, maybe they should seek disclosure rather than figure it out it for themselves.
Of course, there’s nothing wrong with taking a parallel path. Continue UFO research and get as much data as you can, while seeing what might be done to unearth some government secrets.
Unfortunately, it hasn’t actually been proven that any government knows anything about UFOs beyond what the public knows, except for details about such matters as a top secret project, or the names of intelligence officers who need to be protected. None of that means that they have proof that UFOs are really space ships, or whether or not they are friendly.
Sure, there have been so-called whistle blowers from time to time, without any real evidence that what they report is true. You might recall the late Colonel Philip Corso’s book, “The Day After Roswell,” a whistle-blowing document of a sort. But it’s not as if much of what he wrote passed the smell test. Indeed, when I read it some years back, I felt I was going through a passably-written spy novel, a work of fiction, rather than a factual report of someone’s genuine experiences managing covert alien technology allegedly reverse engineered from the crashed Roswell spaceship.
So if you believe Corso, he was the bag man (or bag person to be politically correct) who stored some of that material in a file cabinet when he wasn’t quietly moving it on to private industry. But the critics cited misstatements in his accounts about his government service, and the parallel evidence that such inventions as night vision goggles and printed circuits were really invented by our own scientists and engineers.
Now I suppose it’s possible the documentation about such technologies was deliberately altered by government agents, say the Silence Group. Or could it have been the MIB? Perhaps some progress had already been made, and alien technology merely helped to fill in a few blanks.
Of course, it’s all based on a single assumption, that a spaceship really and truly crashed near Roswell, NM in 1947, and that Earth scientists were able to make head or tails of the technology that came into their hands. For the sake of argument, I’ll accept the cultural myth that the crash was genuine, even though there are credible theories, still, that it may have been something totally conventional. Consider a test aircraft or a balloon.
Regardless, even if alien technology was found, would we even be able to figure it out? Imagine that the spaceship was piloted by a spacefaring crew possibly hundreds or thousands of years ahead of us? The technology, to paraphrase one famous description, might be more akin to magic than anything we could understand.
As an corollary, take an Apple iPhone, circa 2016. Now send it back in time to the fifteenth century. Look at your history books to see what scientists knew when Christopher Columbus was taking his famous voyage across the oceans to discover America. How would even the most advanced scientists of his day manage to figure out what the iPhone was all about? Assuming the battery was still charged, I suppose they would manage to turn it on, but the images on the display, even if readable, wouldn’t make very much sense. Just what is Safari anyway?
Besides, without the cloud or a cellular network, there’s not a whole lot an iPhone can do beyond examine stuff that’s already stored on the handset. Once the battery died, the screen would darken, and this magical device would no longer work.
I assume they would pry it apart with a jeweler’s implements, and possibly without much damage. But what would they make of the logic board, the display assembly, the onboard sensors, and what about the battery? The term “battery” was, according to history, first used by Benjamin Franklin in 1749 when he was conducting experiments with electricity.
In short, the iPhone, after the battery was spent, would be a doorstop. It would very likely be far beyond the ability of fifteenth century science to figure out much about it. It would be little more than a curiosity to them, or perhaps a gift from God? If they could only understand His message.
Sure, we have reason to be proud of the ability of our science to figure things out based on what we believe to be advanced technology. But would scientists make sense of our own technology 500 or 1,000 years hence? Alien technology? Would they really contain anything that would lead to printed circuits and night vision goggles? That strains credibility.
Or maybe the Roswell craft, if it was a flying ship of some sort, really wasn’t so advanced after all. What if some hidden or breakaway civilization located within caverns, or beneath the ocean, sent aloft their own aircraft only to have it encounter mechanical or electronic problems? Maybe it’s only a decade or two farther advanced than our known technology, but enough to teach scientists a few tricks that could be reverse engineered.
In other words, perhaps Roswell didn’t involve space visitors, but Earth people. Perhaps the reports — which remain controversial to this very day — of small aliens recovered from the ship, actually involved a perfectly normal human crew. But the story was clouded over the years using flying saucer lore as a cover.
Is any of this even true?
As I said, the Corso book is regarded skeptically. The ability to reverse engineer advanced alien technology in the space of a few years, beginning in the late 1940s, is also questionable. Maybe we could achieve a few successes now in a world where we are working on quantum computers and considering the rudimentary theories of warp drive. But certainly not then.
So even if Earth governments recovered the wreckage of a crashed flying saucer, the likelihood that they’d figure out much about it is extremely slim. If nothing has been recovered, and UFOs don’t seem to present evidence of a threat to national security, a government’s best approach dealing with all those sightings might be “out of sight, out of mind.”
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