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What personalities in the Ufo field drive you nuts?
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schticknz
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tclay2539 said:
Oh boy ... are you sure you don't want to start this thread again???
I think I've been around on this discussion forum to speak for almost all people on here regarding who they dislike or who drives them round the twist.
There are the usual suspects ... Horn, Biedny (well its true
, he does drive some people nuts ), Greer ... but I'd like to put a special mention out to old 'steeleye' ... Kevin Smith, yes, he of the 'Kevin Smith Show'. Nice bloke, wouldn't have a word to say against him except ... but my god he's tedious
... many a time have I downloaded a podcast (haven't done this for some time since I think I reached my 'event horizon' when it came to listening to him) from his website ... and he'd drone on and on and on and on and on about nothing in particular, and then the interview (with usually something or someone I was looking forward to) would be a complete and utter dud. Really annoying since he'd have some really mad guests on (ex-vampires etc) ... and the shameless self-promotion ... blinkin 'eck ... I think he'd even put Alex Jones to shame.Anyway thought I would throw that in ... just because I can
All the best
schtick
p.s. and if I hear Tim Binnall say 'psyched' once more I shall ... take a deep breath and count to 73 ... 1 ... 2 ... 3 ...
The Ghost of Bill Hicks
Paranormal Novice
Bill Birnes
Everytime I hear his voice I want to stab my eyes out with an ink pen.
Dude HST is pissed that you stole his shades.
Everytime I hear his voice I want to stab my eyes out with an ink pen.
Dude HST is pissed that you stole his shades.
Siani
Despiser of religious nuts
Quite a few people in the UFO field get up my nose. The FIGU/Beamship Billy brigade are at the top of my list. That fool who was on the show - Bruce Goldberg or whatever he's called - he's just behind them. Linda Moulton Howe is maddening, because she seems so gullible. She posted that Google 'triangle UFO', which most people now know is the Emu Downs wind farm in Western Australia, as a genuine UFO. I emailed her to let her know exactly what it was, but got no acknowledgement, nor did she retract the article citing it as a UFO. Paola Harris is another one who seems to believe anything anyone tells her. Whitley Streiber also irks me. It's not so much him, as my response to him that bugs me. Common sense tells me he's a clever con man, yet there's a part of me that feels he's telling the truth - at least, as he perceives it. I don't like that part of me! Jaime Maussan is irritating, too, simply because he over-sensationalizes and under-researches. A fatal combo in my eyes. Jose Escamilla, the rods guy, also annoys me. Rods, my ass. Sorry, I'm not convinced they're anything other than blurry shots of insects.
Can someone now start a thread about who we like in ufology, please? Thinking about those annoying people has got me all worked up and angst-ridden!
Can someone now start a thread about who we like in ufology, please? Thinking about those annoying people has got me all worked up and angst-ridden!
Michael L.
Coffee swillin' Devil's advocate
There is a guy that turns up on the odd UFO Files or other documentary that runs some kind of Earth embassy or some such nonsense where he and his followers/friends/whatever sit out all night and beat drums to attract UFOs. Something about him drives me up the wall!
Actually, "space hippies" in general drive me crazy. Anyone who expects the space brothers to come and give everyone a hug and cure all of our ills just strikes me as deluded.
Okay, truth be told, I don't like any hippies at all.
Actually, "space hippies" in general drive me crazy. Anyone who expects the space brothers to come and give everyone a hug and cure all of our ills just strikes me as deluded.
Okay, truth be told, I don't like any hippies at all.
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pixelsmith
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i resemble that remark.. wtf is wrong with hippies?
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pixelsmith
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nice answer. you are obviously not worthy of my time. thanks for playing.
~Foo Fighter~
Skilled Investigator
The Ghost of Bill Hicks said:
I have to second this eye stabbing statement!
Maybe he wears shades all the time because he stabbed his own out.
~Foo Fighter~
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Tommy Allison
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Oh man... Where do I start???
Lloyd Pye
Derrell Sims
Art Bell
George Noory
The Clueless One
Whitley Strieber
That douchebag James McGaha who knows NOTHING about military flares.
Anyone who has been on The History Channel on behalf of the UFO Community.
Anyone who has been on The History Channel on behalf of the Skeptic Community.
If you're in the field making money off of books and videos, you're part of the problem, not part of the truth.
Lloyd Pye
Derrell Sims
Art Bell
George Noory
The Clueless One
Whitley Strieber
That douchebag James McGaha who knows NOTHING about military flares.
Anyone who has been on The History Channel on behalf of the UFO Community.
Anyone who has been on The History Channel on behalf of the Skeptic Community.
If you're in the field making money off of books and videos, you're part of the problem, not part of the truth.
Jose Collado
Skilled Investigator
I'd point the finger of blame for the history channel and other network shows at the editors. A lot of skeptics who are asked to appear are usually edited to the point of appearing like performing poodles (and I'm sure many are just that). Then again, I question anyone who appears on these shows because from experience, true skeptics rarely accept invitations to be filmed for these shows. God knows I've tried to get some and failed.
Actually...screw the networks. There's one quick fix. A gallon of gas and a box of matches.
Journalism took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. All hail the performing monkeys.
Actually...screw the networks. There's one quick fix. A gallon of gas and a box of matches.
Journalism took a wrong turn at Albuquerque. All hail the performing monkeys.
Tommy Allison said:
I think I know what you are saying. And, for the most part, I agree. But then what about the Richard Dolans, and Greg Bishops, and so on. You can write and sell books and still be part of the search for truth. Understandably many are not.
I might add to this list Alfred Webre, Steven Bassett, and anyone else involved in "exopolitics".
Jose Collado
Skilled Investigator
What's wrong with making money from books and videos? Does anyone here work for free? I recently got questioned harshly over being part of an independent production company and asked if we were in it for the money. Who isn't? Who can honestly say they turn up for work and work for free out of the goodness of their own heart. Sure I'm in it for the money...the same money that goes into funding future projects and paying for our time. No money...no projects. I'm not rich...I'm not famous...hell, I drive a Ferrari cleverly disguised as a 1971 Valiant.
Selling books and videos isn't a bad thing. The content...well...thats an entirely different argument.
Truth depends on opinion and different points of view.
Selling books and videos isn't a bad thing. The content...well...thats an entirely different argument.
Truth depends on opinion and different points of view.
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schticknz
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TClaeys said:
That was I think a bit of a sweeping statement even from my point of view
. I think although ... for instance ... Paul Kimball makes films, and probably a small amount of change from them, and although I don't agree with some things he says (mostly political stuff ... ), he makes a valuable contribution. As does The Clueless One (lay off Monsieur Valiens, he can't help what he's become ... listening to Michael Jackson too much does that to you
) ... although (3rd time ... probably means I'm going to spontaneously combust or something) there are certain greers and horns that are certainly not helping things in my opinion.(Damn ... something just popped into my head: The Billy Meier One Armed Open Golf Classic ... discuss
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Tommy Allison
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Funniest thing. I make reference to a few losers in the UFO field, and then all of a sudden I get some truly hateful crap written on one of my various youtube videos. Coincedence? I think not.
A couple of the names on my list have some serious personality, and mental problems associated with their scam to take people's money on the hoaxes they continue to perpetrate, and they better keep their fricking mouths shut unless they want their little secrets divulged.
There is a huge difference between making a contribution, and just being a retarded conman selling a book or hocking some product. I've seen what Paul Kimball does which is why he's not on the list of people I cannot stand. He actually puts forth some effort to get at the truth, and not regurgitate some retarded diatribe that he's trying to sell you like a used car dealer.
Some people, I simply cannot stand because what they're saying is the same tired crap that the baby boomer generation deposited into the field of UFOlogy with their uniting the world, prevent global warming, and every other communist lie they wanted to propagate. Any time you have someone selling you the nonsense about Global Warming, or progressive politics ie, Socialism and Communism, or that other One Worlder Bullshit, it's a lie.
I could be selling the living hell out of all kinds of UFO related nonsense, and to date, I've sold absolutely ZILCH. Not for a lack of demand, trust me I get all kinds of e-mails about that hybrid sculpt I did. I could be making all kinds of crap but that's not helping the people looking into the whole UFO thing. All it really does is cheapen it.
As far as The Clueless One goes, I just can't stand his writing, and the voice alone is enough to make me wish I had a death ray satellite in orbit over the planet. There are a lot of people in the field who quite frankly I think are a detriment.
The people who are out there making a buck on this stuff, pushing that happy hippy save the planet nonsense have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Which means that these aliens, who are so much more advanced than us, are twice as retarded.
A couple of the names on my list have some serious personality, and mental problems associated with their scam to take people's money on the hoaxes they continue to perpetrate, and they better keep their fricking mouths shut unless they want their little secrets divulged.
There is a huge difference between making a contribution, and just being a retarded conman selling a book or hocking some product. I've seen what Paul Kimball does which is why he's not on the list of people I cannot stand. He actually puts forth some effort to get at the truth, and not regurgitate some retarded diatribe that he's trying to sell you like a used car dealer.
Some people, I simply cannot stand because what they're saying is the same tired crap that the baby boomer generation deposited into the field of UFOlogy with their uniting the world, prevent global warming, and every other communist lie they wanted to propagate. Any time you have someone selling you the nonsense about Global Warming, or progressive politics ie, Socialism and Communism, or that other One Worlder Bullshit, it's a lie.
I could be selling the living hell out of all kinds of UFO related nonsense, and to date, I've sold absolutely ZILCH. Not for a lack of demand, trust me I get all kinds of e-mails about that hybrid sculpt I did. I could be making all kinds of crap but that's not helping the people looking into the whole UFO thing. All it really does is cheapen it.
As far as The Clueless One goes, I just can't stand his writing, and the voice alone is enough to make me wish I had a death ray satellite in orbit over the planet. There are a lot of people in the field who quite frankly I think are a detriment.
The people who are out there making a buck on this stuff, pushing that happy hippy save the planet nonsense have absolutely no idea what they're talking about. Which means that these aliens, who are so much more advanced than us, are twice as retarded.
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Tommy Allison
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Jose Collado said:
My argument is the content. I'm all about making money from the work, I just wish that the stuff that's being put out there was a little more analytical, and less touchy feely, spiritual new age crap about saving mother Gaia, and how Hamsters are the way.
Like you, My flying death machine is actually disguised as a Saturn.