Video Comment
The primary assumption made is about the video’s provenance. However, to ask for confidence in its provenance as a percentage term is the wrong question. One either accepts the video as real based on the evidence we have or one does not. If you accept it, then you work from there to asses what the video might show, if you don’t accept the provenance, you write the whole thing off as (presumably) a hoax.
Unless the makers/distributors/leakers of the video come forward publicly – and that is highly doubtful given the heavy penalties applied against people who release government “secrets” – especially of a military nature - then we are forever left without a direct provenance.
I am inclined to accept the video as real – it has withstood the test of time and it seems to me that it would be very difficult to create it as a hoax at the time it must have been made… but that is of course a personal opinion only.
Both Rudiak (
http://www.roswellproof.com/Nellis_discussion.html) and Powell (
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/mjpowell/Nellis/Part1/Part1.htm) have made independent assessments of the location shown in the video (based on the mountain peak with the radar domes) and have basically come to the same conclusions about the location.
There may be some doubt about the actual date of the video. For example Powell, in a reference note, states “
14. Ref. 3, pg. 120. 'Real TV' dated the video to 1993, whilst a NICAP investigator believed the encounter took place on 30.9.1991.”
Here are the “original” Hard Copy video:
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http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/65206/HardCopy__Nellis_Ufo_Footage_Original_Release_1995/)
and Sightings video report:
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And a perhaps a clearer copy of the object video:
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6821482599776880969)
So what is it? It certainly doesn’t seem like anything conventional…
I am trying to see a rocket in this video, but just cannot do it. Also the radar trace seems to have it and then not have it – if it was a conventional rocket it would have it all the time surely… Also the fact that the operators don’t know what it is seems telling. Surely the operators would be given a schedule of potential tests and flights conducted – otherwise how are they expected to be alert for potential “enemy” intruders into the airspace if they first have to sort out whether it is one of ours or not? They would not have to know what exactly it is being tested, just that something would be there and not to worry because it IS one of ours… but of course that is just speculation on my part.
And I think we would all like to see a clear, unequivocal daylight video… but then those that do exist (and make no mistake, they do exist) are immediately labelled “hoax”… and the problem here is of course that the space has been flooded with hoaxes –
and if I was a conspiracy nut (which I am not – but it is difficult sometimes not to be) – I would suggest this flooding of the space with hoaxes is a deliberate ploy to bury any videos that might be genuine under a mountain of garbage…
The bolded bit first.
and an off-topic tangent, indulge mods please this one post.
I too consider myself level headed, and i have the same sentiments about 911 as you have with the hoax flooding vids, only i do not think anything other than 19 terrorists carried out an atrocity, all the conspiracy stuff that has flooded the net i sometimes think is all about mis-direction, basically do not wonder at who may have funded and provided their support network whilst in the states, most certainly do not look into the saudi connection, their aims and their goals, no look over here theres controlled demolition and viscous jews what did it, with bombs an all that clever stuff the the "mossad" do like remote control plane thingies.
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Yes theres some good photographs out there alright, so good they have to be real ET craft, or fake/hoax pictures vids, so any sane person quickly dismisses them as hoax, rightly or wrongly, thats the way it is, as the leap/divide is just so great.
Fortunately there are people who will go to extraordinary lenghts to authenticate materials.
ufology i dont think thats camera shake as the object jumps about, the clouds and other land marks stay steady even when panning, so no rocket footage ive ever seen matches that for rockets jigging side to side, and up and down etc.
i was thinking its a simulated target in a range training exercise, with an erratic target to have to get and keep a lock-on, along the lines of a flight simulator.
The sightings piece about the close ups and similarities with the mexican balloons, sorry mexican UFOs i mean has me alittle puzzled as the afb footage is not a balloon.
As per the visual evidence, out of all the vids and pics only one has to be the genuine article, i will state my position on ET LIFE.
Does intelligent life exist anywhere else other than earth, almost certainly it does, my position is that i just dont know.
I am pretty confident life exists in space mind, so are nasa, thats why i am, simple really when man landed on the moon he brought life to the moon, when he left, he left life on the moon, he left it in half eaten food, and bags of pee and shite.
Will be interesting to see how the bacteria have mutated in that harsh enviroment, thats why nasa want niels shite back now, one small dump for a man, one massive dump for mankind.
And thats it really anything after that is a leap of faith, the one aspect i am a little open to about UFOs is that we as a semi intelligent species have been sending probes out for decades, and in a thousand years we will still be sending them out to explore further and further, with life spans of many centuries, infact our futuristic probes may well turn out to be other species UFOs, that they argue about really exist.
I am open to probe, even just one every 1000 years would indicate many other species over a billion years.
I think theres an unimaginable amount of space, and its been there for an unimaginable amount of time, for that first cell ever to form and then divide, here on earth as a unique event in the whole cosmos, i dont buy it, its a theory, cleverer people than me have come to that theory, i dont buy it, i think the planet was seeded by meteorite or similar, i dont need to prove it to myself, it just makes more sense to me than life uniquely forming on earth only.
I say unimaginable amount of time etc, i maybe wrong, maybe someone can imagine how long 13.5 billion years are, and also what it would be like to walk many googolplexes of miles, i am sure i cannot even begin to comprehend the enormities.
The reson i mentally dismiss UFOs containing entities, is because there would surely of been real interaction between our species, i dont buy all the philosophical crap about reasons why they just supposedly tantalize us with glimpses of them, they would be explorers, and they would explore us.
They would find us and our totally unique technology as fascinating as we would find them and their technology.
Assuming we would not be toxic to one another.
Thats why it would for me to believe actual beings are visiting this planet literally, i would have to see one, shoot some pool with it, and maybe get it drunk and swap a few genes with its sister, and feel ashamed as i bragged about it..