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U.S. Magistrate orders Apple to hack into Terrorists cell phone.
- Thread starter Wade
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Its going to be an interesting ride.
I doubt the civil liberties aspect can be argued successfully. The needs of the many outweigh the liberties of the one
In a world where law enforcement can kick in your door shoot your dog and drag your naked hide out of bed, cracking a phones password seems like small potato's.
Having said that Apple has a point when it expresses concerns as to where this "malware" will wind up. The OS has been tailored to defeat the brute force style password cracker.
Forcing them to write code that defeats this feature would be an issue for them.
I doubt the civil liberties aspect can be argued successfully. The needs of the many outweigh the liberties of the one
In a world where law enforcement can kick in your door shoot your dog and drag your naked hide out of bed, cracking a phones password seems like small potato's.
Having said that Apple has a point when it expresses concerns as to where this "malware" will wind up. The OS has been tailored to defeat the brute force style password cracker.
Forcing them to write code that defeats this feature would be an issue for them.
SRL+
Paranormal Adept
As Google sides with Apple, John McAfee offers to decrypt the San Bernardino iPhone for $0, although, if successful, bragging rights would be priceless.
JOHN MCAFEE: I'll decrypt the San Bernardino iPhone
JOHN MCAFEE: I'll decrypt the San Bernardino iPhone
That was indeed my first thought, surely Law enforcement would or should have their own expertise in this area. Or at the least be able to hire it
Wade
FeralNormal master
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Wade
FeralNormal master
Yeah the obvious comprimise for apple would be to say bring it in to us, we will crack it and give you a dump of the data within.
Privacy has never been absolute, the state has always had the ability to do what it likes to us. It can draft us, it can imprision us.
The fact remains there may be people on his contact list that bear watching. apple should be helping.
For most people their security remains intact. family cant crack their phones. friends cant crack their phones, theives cant crack their phones. The OS works at that level. In reality their houses are less secure in that any of the above including law enforcement could if they wanted to break a window and rifle through their panty drawers.
Customers privacy isnt really effected by this. If you are a law abiding citizen you have as much chance of having your phone cracked as you do in being incarcerated.
Privacy has never been absolute, the state has always had the ability to do what it likes to us. It can draft us, it can imprision us.
The fact remains there may be people on his contact list that bear watching. apple should be helping.
For most people their security remains intact. family cant crack their phones. friends cant crack their phones, theives cant crack their phones. The OS works at that level. In reality their houses are less secure in that any of the above including law enforcement could if they wanted to break a window and rifle through their panty drawers.
Customers privacy isnt really effected by this. If you are a law abiding citizen you have as much chance of having your phone cracked as you do in being incarcerated.
boomerang
Paranormal Adept
Technology has a way of concentrating power, confounding the equation of security vs freedom. It allows ever smaller numbers of bad actors to kill ever larger numbers of people. But there is yet another potential nightmare beyond brute force. Technology may now conceivably allow a relatively small number of people to manipulate and control the population they are elected to govern in unseen but powerful ways. And the very nature of state security forbids the kind of transparency needed to obviate such abuse.
So this is our fear. Not so much law enforcement legitimately seeking specific information needed to prevent mass murder. This is a noble and rational pursuit. The larger question is potential of loss of freedom arising from potential abuse of whatever system may be designed and built in need of a kind of airtight security, the nature of which has historically been seen only in totalitarian states.
It's a legitimate dilemma.
So this is our fear. Not so much law enforcement legitimately seeking specific information needed to prevent mass murder. This is a noble and rational pursuit. The larger question is potential of loss of freedom arising from potential abuse of whatever system may be designed and built in need of a kind of airtight security, the nature of which has historically been seen only in totalitarian states.
It's a legitimate dilemma.
ALPHA ROMEO UNIFORM
Whittingham
More like the procedure has been done already before all the media reports?? and get a inside look at todays world listen to this great podcast hope Gene has Bruce Schneier on his "Tech Night Owl" podcast show which is outstanding ??
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My plan is to definitely have a security expert on the tech show to talk about this issue. Meantime my opinion is clear: Opening the bottle will release the genie, and anyone in authority who thinks it can be restricted to one iPhone is ignorant of how the digital world works.
Exactly Apples pov is if we give you this "malware" as they termed it, you will be able to use it on any of our iphones. Which is why it makes better sense for them to offer to do it inhouse, that way the program stays inhouse too. they just crack the phone, dump the data to paper and thats that
kanakaris
Paranormal Adept
Exactly.Is this on the table ?