Tom Van Flandern's Mysterious Mars Lecture

[Skymon876]

This is a great presentation by a scientific minded man who unfortunately is not still with us. But there are a few good points in this presentation were Tom describes the laws of science and logic in relation to the various objects on Mars. He does not go into the typical anomalies that "Hoagie" does. If you want to get your interested peaked again in Mars then this video will do it.

Tom's exploded planet hypothesis is very intriguing and seems plausible. His website is still up and contains many slides and papers. Meta Research (innovative astronomy research)

Read Tom's exploded planet hypothesis that suggests Mars was actually a Moon of another planet that exploded creating the asteroid belt. The Exploded Planet Hypothesis - 2000

Enjoy.

 

[Skymon876]

Does anyone have any thoughts on Tom Van Flanderns work on the Face of Mars?

 

[stonehart]

This is a great presentation by a scientific minded man who unfortunately is not still with us. But there are a few good points in this presentation were Tom describes the laws of science and logic in relation to the various objects on Mars. He does not go into the typical anomalies that "Hoagie" does. If you want to get your interested peaked again in Mars then this video will do it.

Tom's exploded planet hypothesis is very intriguing and seems plausible. His website is still up and contains many slides and papers. Meta Research (innovative astronomy research)

Read Tom's exploded planet hypothesis that suggests Mars was actually a Moon of another planet that exploded creating the asteroid belt. The Exploded Planet Hypothesis - 2000

Enjoy.

Interesting idea but correct me if I am wrong and I may just be but, from what I know the current amount of mass in the asteroid belt is not enough to create a planet from of the size of which could have held Mars as a moon.


Ok he has that covered

Where Did All the Mass Go?

Although over 10,000 asteroids have well-determined orbits, the combined mass of all other asteroids is not as great as that of the largest asteroid, Ceres. That makes the total mass of the asteroid belt only about 0.001 of the mass of the Earth. A frequently asked question is, if a major planet exploded, where is the rest of its mass?

Consider what would happen if the Earth exploded today. Surface and crustal rocks would shatter and fragment, but remain rocks. However, rocks from depths greater than about 40 km are under so much pressure at high temperature that, if suddenly released into a vacuum, such rocks would vaporize. As a consequence, over 99% of the Earth’s total mass would vaporize in an explosion, with only its low-pressure crustal and upper mantle layers surviving.

The situation worsens for a larger planet, where the interior pressures and temperatures get higher more quickly with depth. In fact, all planets in our solar system more massive than Earth (starting with Uranus at about 15 Earth masses) are gas giants with no solid surfaces, and would be expected to leave no asteroids if they exploded. Bodies smaller than Earth, such as our Moon, would leave a substantially higher percentage of their mass in asteroids. But the Moon has only about 0.01 of Earth’s mass to begin with.

In short, asteroid belts with masses of order 0.001 Earth masses are the norm when terrestrial-planet-sized bodies explode. Meteorites provide direct evidence for this scenario of rocks either surviving or being vaporized. Various chondrite meteorites (by far the most common type) show all stages of partial melting from mild to almost completely vaporized. Indeed, it is the abundant melt droplets, called “chondrules”, that give chondrite meteorites their name.

 

[stonehart]