G
Gil Bavel
Guest
At Miah's request, since we got somewhat off topic in the Boyd Bushman thread, I've started this one to discuss the works of Leah Haley, Karla Turner, Katharina Wilson, Marc Davenport (which are some damned fine books), and any others y'all would care to discuss. I'm quite partial to Stanton Friedman (his most recent Captured with Kathy Marden, Betty Hill's niece, is not only very different from his usual dry, data-hound style, but has in fact received praise from Linda Multoun Howe and Dr. Bruce Maccabee) and I've recently started Nick Pope's book, The Univited. As I mentioned previously in a different thread (man, I don't know what I was thinking--sorry), Leonard Stringfield's UFO Siege, in the manner that it deals not only with UFO sightings, landings, trace cases, but particularly, the sightings and sometimes interaction with humanoid (presumably) occupants of every conceivable stripe, is one of the most interesting, nay, fascinating books on the subject I've ever read.
I'm sure we're all quite well read here, but since many of these seminal books are out of print and largely hard to find, it would behoove us to kick around titles that might further edify us in our common interests and help us become better-rounded paranormal enthusiasts.
At your pleasure, in your own time.
On that note (and intentionally changing the nature of this thread already for a moment), I'd be interested to hear on this thread from anyone that's read any of LMH's books, or seen her videos. I've been after them for years, since they came out, really, but they seem to be so out of print that it drives the used book prices up to the ridiculous, and apparently that's the way Ms. Howe likes it. Some of her later titles are available on her web site, but the early ones are where I'd like to start. I find her work on cattle mutilations to be among the most compelling in the wide range of phenomena attributed to the UFO experience, and her early work, when she was a NBC producer in Colorado seems to be among her most grounded (pardon the pun). Since then she seems to have been prone to flights (sic) of fancy and willing to believe nearly anything, so long as she's the one that breaks the story.
I'm not a member of LMH's Earthfiles, nor Whitley's Unknown Country web sites, but I've heard them both on Coast quite a bit (you must forgive me--there was once a time when there was no Paracast, and we wandered in the desert for forty years) and must assume that their (especially LMH's) sites don't have the same kind of "listenership" that Coast does, since they keep coming back to Coast to widen their audience.
In Strieber's defense, he has books and so forth to push, so his being a guest on Coast occasionally makes sense.
Perhaps Ms. Howe is simply trying to garner a wider listenership for her show, where she has "broken" (in more than one sense) the stories about Chad's drones, J-Rods, Dr. Dan Burisch, and other stories that were so incredulous that I must have forgotten them entirely. I suppose it's not difficult to understand why she's having problems getting the same broader audience these other web shows enjoy since she's so undiscriminating as to carry the latest news about El Chupacabra (which looks like a half-wolf, half-dog with the mange), Witches flying about in Mexico, and damn near anything else that falls into the paranormal gutter that more self-respecting researchers won't touch with a ten foot pole.
It's all too bad; I thought her early work deserved a look--and inasmuch as I'm only familiar with it in an ancillary way, I'd be interested to hear points of view from those of you that have read it. Am I right in my assessment that she started out more credible, and has slid down the slippery journalistic slope along the way? The way I understand it is that the cattle mutilations continue and there is no more solid answer to it now then there was when she started some 25-odd years ago.
Then, on to the crop circles and so on, thus "Earthfiles", but this, core research area of hers is one I'd like to know more about.
I recently saw on a show somewhere that the details about the very first cattle mutilation were totally wrong--"Snippy", the female horse was named something different and was male--but I don't think this was her doing; I'm pretty sure she came upon this case long after others had reported about it. LMH just made it her pet (sorry) project, and delved more in-depth with it than any other single reporter.
So, again, I put out the question if anyone here is familiar with her early Harvest books and videos, and if you've noticed a decline over the years.
I'm sure we're all quite well read here, but since many of these seminal books are out of print and largely hard to find, it would behoove us to kick around titles that might further edify us in our common interests and help us become better-rounded paranormal enthusiasts.
At your pleasure, in your own time.
On that note (and intentionally changing the nature of this thread already for a moment), I'd be interested to hear on this thread from anyone that's read any of LMH's books, or seen her videos. I've been after them for years, since they came out, really, but they seem to be so out of print that it drives the used book prices up to the ridiculous, and apparently that's the way Ms. Howe likes it. Some of her later titles are available on her web site, but the early ones are where I'd like to start. I find her work on cattle mutilations to be among the most compelling in the wide range of phenomena attributed to the UFO experience, and her early work, when she was a NBC producer in Colorado seems to be among her most grounded (pardon the pun). Since then she seems to have been prone to flights (sic) of fancy and willing to believe nearly anything, so long as she's the one that breaks the story.
I'm not a member of LMH's Earthfiles, nor Whitley's Unknown Country web sites, but I've heard them both on Coast quite a bit (you must forgive me--there was once a time when there was no Paracast, and we wandered in the desert for forty years) and must assume that their (especially LMH's) sites don't have the same kind of "listenership" that Coast does, since they keep coming back to Coast to widen their audience.
In Strieber's defense, he has books and so forth to push, so his being a guest on Coast occasionally makes sense.
Perhaps Ms. Howe is simply trying to garner a wider listenership for her show, where she has "broken" (in more than one sense) the stories about Chad's drones, J-Rods, Dr. Dan Burisch, and other stories that were so incredulous that I must have forgotten them entirely. I suppose it's not difficult to understand why she's having problems getting the same broader audience these other web shows enjoy since she's so undiscriminating as to carry the latest news about El Chupacabra (which looks like a half-wolf, half-dog with the mange), Witches flying about in Mexico, and damn near anything else that falls into the paranormal gutter that more self-respecting researchers won't touch with a ten foot pole.
It's all too bad; I thought her early work deserved a look--and inasmuch as I'm only familiar with it in an ancillary way, I'd be interested to hear points of view from those of you that have read it. Am I right in my assessment that she started out more credible, and has slid down the slippery journalistic slope along the way? The way I understand it is that the cattle mutilations continue and there is no more solid answer to it now then there was when she started some 25-odd years ago.
Then, on to the crop circles and so on, thus "Earthfiles", but this, core research area of hers is one I'd like to know more about.
I recently saw on a show somewhere that the details about the very first cattle mutilation were totally wrong--"Snippy", the female horse was named something different and was male--but I don't think this was her doing; I'm pretty sure she came upon this case long after others had reported about it. LMH just made it her pet (sorry) project, and delved more in-depth with it than any other single reporter.
So, again, I put out the question if anyone here is familiar with her early Harvest books and videos, and if you've noticed a decline over the years.
