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Seth Shostak, Bad Science, and UFOs

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Paul Kimball

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From my blog (original at: The Other Side of Truth: Seth Shostak, Bad Science, and UFOs):

If you want to hear some bad science, tune into the December 20th, 2006 episode of "Are We Alone", SETI's weekly radio program, with Seth Shostak, which is about UFOs - you can find a link to the program in the original post, or go to SETI's site at: http://www.seti.org/site/pp.asp?c=ktJ2J9MMIsE&b=178892.

If there are really aliens out there listening in, I hope they don't hear this. They'll think we're still stuck in pre-Enlightenment days.

Shostak et al manage the unholy trifecta of bad science - they distort facts, they ignore other facts, and they make mistakes about the facts. For example, at one point Shostak manages to conflate the MJ-12 documents with the legitimate CIA and NSA documents that Stan Friedman and others got through Freedom of Information Act requests. In the process, Shostak shows that he knows nothing about the subject he's chosen to bash.

Note also that Shostak et al tie the UFO phenomenon directly to the ETH, never once mentioning any other possibilities. The open mind that Dr. Michio Kaku urged people to keep with respect to the UFO phenomenon at the end of Seeing is Believing is nowhere to be found on Shostak's show.

In the meantime, SETI continues to search the skies for the ET equivalent of "I Love Lucy" or "The Honeymooners", while pumping out, in the form of radio shows like this, the scientific equivalent of bad pro wrestling - phony, derivative (nary a new thought pops up in this episode), and just plain boring.

I've finally figured it out - Seth Shostak is the Vince McMahon of ufology.

Which means it's time for... a head-to-head showdown with...

The Easter Bunny!

Who Has More Scientific Credibility on UFOs
The Easter Bunny
Dr. Seth Shostak

The Poll is visible on the sidebar of my blog, www.redstarfilms.blogspot.com, or in the original post.

Yet again, I find myself compelled to cast my vote for The Easter Bunny!

Paul
 
I made a thread at ufoupdates once, called Seth Poostack. Errol edited though.

Seth gets on ufology for lack of evidence. As if SETI has evidence....


I had to look up Vince McMahon. Didn't know who he was by name. That annoying wrassler guy. Barf.
 
Not long after Peter Jennings Original 2hr UFO show...KGO 810am in San Francisco had Seth Shostak on the "Ronn Owens" radio show one morning, one of the most popular radio talk shows in the SFO Bay Area - and I was disgusted on what Seth stated about the Jennings show. I wrote an e-mail to Ronn to ask him what 'real' credentials Seth had to discuss the subject matter...but of course, they'd never ask that on the air - but they'd let him make comments that were heard by millions like it was gospel, though misinformed as he was, or purposefully slanted- he skated by several key points - ignoring facts that are pretty hard to pass off as nothing. I ended up writing a small letter to Ronn Owens after the show telling him that I thought the show was one-sided and would he consider Stanton Freidman as a guest? Never heard back from him.....

MarsAve
 
Nice how he has the one testimony of a man in 1994 who made contradictory statements about Roswell and worked as a long time disinformation agent.

Seth: "Well.. those are the facts."

To..
debunk the dozens of verified military witnesses with confessions surrounding Roswell/Corona's two crash retrievals.

great..:p
 
The Hawk said:
Nice how he has the one testimony of a man in 1994 who made contradictory statements about Roswell and worked as a long time disinformation agent.

Seth: "Well.. those are the facts."

To..
debunk the dozens of verified military witnesses with confessions surrounding Roswell/Corona's two crash retrievals.

great..:p

The pseudo-skeptics use that tactic all the time - if they can find one weak aspect in a case they amplify it.
 
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